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 Base Icks
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 Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13221352 - 09/20/10 02:35 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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 nexus1946
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13225257 - 09/20/10 11:52 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Inoculated a 500ml WBS jar with the CCS LC. We'll see how well it takes off.
The two trays with the grass clippings are beginning to smell bad......dont think they're gonna' last. 
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13229025 - 09/21/10 08:03 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Base Icks
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: The White Rabbit]
#13229079 - 09/21/10 08:18 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Was suposed to get out picking today/tomorrow.
I'm fucking sick though, bad cold. Throat all swollen up and not awesome.
Just talked to a mate that went out and he said it was like a blanket. Said he couldn't even stand up for an hour cause he was just crawling around picking non stop.
FML
I wanted to ask him if I could take prints off of them, but I didnt know how to explain why?
I'll go out and get some as soon as I'm well. Might send a load to the FSRE and let them sort out the bulk of them 
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13234956 - 09/23/10 07:47 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Base Icks said:
I wanted to ask him if I could take prints off of them, but I didnt know how to explain why?
Tell him you want to to do this>
"Put a few handfuls in a tupperware with lid>shake the shit out of em>
carefully pour off the mushrooms>wash out the resulting spore/gill fragments and bottle em up to hydrate overnight>take 2L bottle on your next hunt,i decant from a 2L bottle into a 500ml bottle for ease, and sprinkle a few drops (annoint the patch LOL) after you taken your pick of the troops.You at least give back something to the patch who's spore you robbed and may please the mushroom spirits." 
Be prepared to be called a $ucking hippy.
Not tried this,but it may be possible to clean up the "shake" from the "tupperware" TEK (LOL) on agar.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: FilamentousFungi]
#13235087 - 09/23/10 08:42 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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FilamentousFungi said:
Maybe SWIM did this years ago. Try 1/3 straw chopped to 1.5", 1/3 worm castings, and 1/3 coco coir. After it is colonized you want to take 1/4" of castings and case. Cover the castings with wheatgrass seed and moisten the casing. Once the seeds start growing and you get full jungle growth you will start to see them coming up in the grass. They did not like to come up as often without live grass. It may have to do with the symbiosis with the plant roots.
This is what I was thinking. Growing grass on the casing. Someone suggested mixing in poo, but what I'm imagining is sprinkling a few little nuggets of poo on top, so that they'll be on the surface amongst the grass. Maybe closer to natural conditions that way?
I've been out looking for libs to print, but conditions haven't been right. Now the weather's taking a turn for the better (worse) and I'm off on holiday for 2 weeks. ARGH!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: deucedbi9]
#13235110 - 09/23/10 08:51 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13239030 - 09/23/10 11:09 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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andymc said:
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FilamentousFungi said:
Maybe SWIM did this years ago. Try 1/3 straw chopped to 1.5", 1/3 worm castings, and 1/3 coco coir. After it is colonized you want to take 1/4" of castings and case. Cover the castings with wheatgrass seed and moisten the casing. Once the seeds start growing and you get full jungle growth you will start to see them coming up in the grass. They did not like to come up as often without live grass. It may have to do with the symbiosis with the plant roots.
This is what I was thinking. Growing grass on the casing. Someone suggested mixing in poo, but what I'm imagining is sprinkling a few little nuggets of poo on top, so that they'll be on the surface amongst the grass. Maybe closer to natural conditions that way?
I've been out looking for libs to print, but conditions haven't been right. Now the weather's taking a turn for the better (worse) and I'm off on holiday for 2 weeks. ARGH!
I think that the grass had something do do with the density of fruiting w/ liberty caps indoors. I never needed the manure as the castings are a good substitute esp when added with straw and coco.
Why don't you take a wild culture and keep it going indoors? Take the stump of one of the libs and slice the outer parts off of it like a banana and cut the center up into little pieces. Put that onto cardboard that has been moistened with distilled H20 and then drained. After 1 week you will start to see growth. Once it takes onto the cardboard you can sub culture it. It is not a fan of the CB, but it will eat it when it's starving.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: FilamentousFungi]
#13242874 - 09/24/10 09:49 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, was thinking that too - I've only ever found them in the grass clumps here. That's what they like, that's what you oughta give 'em. I've run the mycelium but never made them fruit, so: 
Peace
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#13242908 - 09/24/10 09:59 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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LOL I just had a vision of you guys running through the fields with one of those things they use for cutting golf holes in the greens! PICTURE 6 HERE
Pulling earth plugs with little liberty caps on top of them! Putting them in jars and taking them home.
You could just cut off the sod and roll it up too I suppose.
Might be worth your time to get a chunk of soil analyzed that had a mushroom growing on it, nitrogen, moisture, elements, PH, composition, organic matter content.
May make your quest a little easier..
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Peterthinks]
#13287512 - 10/04/10 03:43 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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my god Peterthinks, your flow hood just gave me a hard on!
 one day............
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: FractalXplora]
#13297076 - 10/06/10 01:12 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I went picking on Monday.
Right when I got to the spot I ate shit on my bike. Then I got in the field and slipped in mud. 
Either way, I picked about 200 and tried printing about 40-50 of them. Not sure how they turned out yet. Going to take a peek at them here some time today.
  
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13297778 - 10/06/10 08:05 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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come on base icks, dont hold out on us any longer how did the prints go?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: asm0309]
#13301483 - 10/06/10 09:28 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, I could definitely use some fresh prints as mine are very old now...but still beautiful. 
Peace
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#13302467 - 10/07/10 04:18 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I tried to take about 40 prints,s and only one dropped. Bummer. They're not cubes thats for sure. They get maggots in they're caps and they eat the gills as soon as they mature. The foil has more maggots on it than spores. I got some chunks of gills though. They might work 
It was a sunny windy day. I think that they dried out and dropped during the day. They're so little, that the oooold mature ones are the easiest to find, and I'm in the habit of only taking the bigest ones and leaving the rest to finish 
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13304813 - 10/07/10 03:27 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I went out picking a few weeks ago, managed to get 30+ prints.
What interests me is their was this one patch that had fluorescent yellowish shrooms, I am 98% sure sure they were liberty caps, so i marked one of the prints so i would know what one it was.
I don't know if it was a nutrient thing but the shrooms varied in colour a lot in that field.
Whats the best way of cultivating what I've got here? i think I've got a huge base for genetic variants which might help when condensing the species into a indoor version but the more spore samples i take from my array of prints the more likely i will introduce a contaminant or possibly a different species altogether.
I'm in the process of making a liquid culture for my garden, would that be easier to fruit? if so how do i fertilize/prepare the patch?
If i make lots of separate liquid cultures and then mix them i could reduce the damage of getting a contaminant with the prints, could i use some anti-biotic to do the same but quicker? I've got lots of left-overs from the doctor you see.
I'm very tempted to try a indoor tech, i'm thinking of maybe letting some grass clippings rot a bit an then sterilizing so as to release some of the nutrients that the mycelium might not be able to, then mix it with some WBS an make a cake.
Is that necessary do you think? do i really need poo? i can get some i'm just too lazy to go poo hunting as well.
Any tips would be welcome, keep up the good work all of you.
Edited by MrWeird (10/07/10 03:58 PM)
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: MrWeird]
#13304858 - 10/07/10 03:35 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I'm officially a fail.
I went picking again today with my mate.
Brought them all home today to print. About 200 of them maybe more.
Got them home put my back back on the couch went to get some water. Sat down. On the backpack.
All the shrooms are flat...................
:fail:
Gonna try again tomorrow.
3rd times the charm?
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PrimalSoup
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13306359 - 10/07/10 10:07 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Got them home put my back back on the couch went to get some water. Sat down. On the backpack.
 
Yeah, tomorrow's gonna be another day. Good luck!
Peace
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13306507 - 10/07/10 10:50 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Base Icks said:
I'm officially a fail.
I went picking again today with my mate.
Brought them all home today to print. About 200 of them maybe more.
Got them home put my back back on the couch went to get some water. Sat down. On the backpack.
All the shrooms are flat...................
:fail:
Gonna try again tomorrow.
3rd times the charm?
No worries mate- munch!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Satisfy]
#13309527 - 10/08/10 03:41 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I'm giving it a go with the cardboard cloning tek. A couple of dozen 2" cardboard squares moistened with rainwater and with about 10 stem stubs in the corrugated grooves of each one. Present working conditions dictate against using agar. I'll post any developments.
I have several lib prints available... Also, I printed a couple of P. strictipes the other day.
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