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Dan4th
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Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today!

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#13157074 - 09/06/10 07:20 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Here's a link to the abstract: http://archpsyc.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/short/archgenpsychiatry.2010.116

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jivJaN
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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: Dan4th]
#13158111 - 09/07/10 12:21 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Awesome.

I want more details though.
how much psilocybin were they administering and through which method ?
which strain ?
how frequently ?

link it up bro :thumbup:

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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: jivJaN]
#13158112 - 09/07/10 12:22 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

sis

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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: jivJaN]
#13158115 - 09/07/10 12:23 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

lol
i just realized you were involved in the research so u can just share what you know ?
sry for three replies :bigjoint:

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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: jivJaN]
#13158282 - 09/07/10 01:58 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

This is amazing! Fuck yeah! shrooms FTW!!!!

:psychsplit:

Now lets study some

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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: Dan4th]
#13158376 - 09/07/10 03:49 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Safe physiological and psychological responses were documented during treatment sessions. There were no clinically significant adverse events with psilocybin.

DUH!

no but really, it's about time we get on some serious research in mainstream centers. we've allowed territorial politics to hinder significant progress in psychedelic research for decades enough!

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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: jivJaN]
#13158776 - 09/07/10 08:12 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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jivJaN said:
Awesome.

I want more details though.
how much psilocybin were they administering and through which method ?
which strain ?
how frequently ?

link it up bro

I don't know if I can answer for this test, however, when I was at the MAPS conference earlier this year I sat in on some of the clinical trial sessions. If I recall correctly they were administering psilocybin in pill (or caplet) form (one patient even showed their prescption bottle with the name psilocybin on the label). The dosages were relatively large considering the threashold is 5 mg for most people, I believe they were administering 45 mg at a time. The patients were in a very relaxed setting (they had a special room setup) with a bed, blankets, music, 2 doctors and a nurse with regular readings of temp, BP, pulse and mind set.

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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#13158784 - 09/07/10 08:16 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Led Zeppelin said:
This is amazing! Fuck yeah! shrooms FTW!!!!

Now lets study some

LSD probably won't make it into clinical trials for several reasons.
1 - stigma (Tim L effect)
2 - time, it takes way WAY too long to make it through an entire session, most doctors and nurses feel the 4 to 6 hours of psilocybin is long enough, they sure don't want to go for a marathon 10 to 12 hour ride with a patient.
3 - psilocybin, DMT and ayahuasca seem to be doing the job, no need to go with LSD.

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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: LanLord]
#13158823 - 09/07/10 08:34 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Nice. I've read some stuff about psilocybin being used to treat headaches and would love to see a study done on that. I hope that the results of this study lead to additional research.

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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: jivJaN]
#13159035 - 09/07/10 09:51 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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jivJaN said:

which strain ?

Synthetic.

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LanLord
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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: sve]
#13159044 - 09/07/10 09:53 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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sve said:
Nice. I've read some stuff about psilocybin being used to treat headaches and would love to see a study done on that. I hope that the results of this study lead to additional research.

Ya know, there was a session on headaches, I was there but honestly didn't take in that much information.

I would imagine that for cluster and migraine headaches, you could get either relief or severe pain reaction - this might very from one person to another. I doubt that stress headaches would have any reaction at all (other than less stress because you found a good buzz! - I'd be less stressed!).

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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: LanLord]
#13159051 - 09/07/10 09:56 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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LanLord said:
LSD probably won't make it into clinical trials for several reasons.
1 - stigma (Tim L effect)
2 - time, it takes way WAY too long to make it through an entire session, most doctors and nurses feel the 4 to 6 hours of psilocybin is long enough, they sure don't want to go for a marathon 10 to 12 hour ride with a patient.
3 - psilocybin, DMT and ayahuasca seem to be doing the job, no need to go with LSD.

? http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/27/MNEN19SNGD.DTL ?

Edited by OneMoreRobot3021 (09/07/10 09:57 AM)

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LanLord
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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#13159057 - 09/07/10 09:57 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
Quote:

jivJaN said:

which strain ?

Synthetic.

I don't have an answer to this question. It may have been synthetic, I don't recall that being addressed. But it's a great question.

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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#13159065 - 09/07/10 09:59 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
Quote:

LanLord said:
LSD probably won't make it into clinical trials for several reasons.
1 - stigma (Tim L effect)
2 - time, it takes way WAY too long to make it through an entire session, most doctors and nurses feel the 4 to 6 hours of psilocybin is long enough, they sure don't want to go for a marathon 10 to 12 hour ride with a patient.
3 - psilocybin, DMT and ayahuasca seem to be doing the job, no need to go with LSD.

? http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/27/MNEN19SNGD.DTL ?

I get item not found.

Are you disputing LSD use?

I am not stating my opinion, I am just passing MAPS information. EDIT (I should state, this was what I remember from the MAPS conference, not necessarily MAPS information)/EDIT.

If you want LSD used in these studies, I am not against it. I'd volunteer!

Edited by LanLord (09/07/10 10:19 AM)

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OneMoreRobot3021
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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: LanLord]
#13159130 - 09/07/10 10:17 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I fixed the link, check it again. LSD is making its way back to the lab.

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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: Dan4th]
#13159320 - 09/07/10 11:03 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Dan4th said:
Here's a link to the abstract: http://archpsyc.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/short/archgenpsychiatry.2010.116

We want more about the concrete results.

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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: sunshine]
#13159503 - 09/07/10 11:49 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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sunshine said:
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Dan4th said:
Here's a link to the abstract: http://archpsyc.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/short/archgenpsychiatry.2010.116

We want more about the concrete results.

Again, I can't tell you results from this test, but at the MAPS conference, all results were positive.

Granted, they might not be willing to discuss the negative side, but from what I was hearing, it was not only positive, it was awesome results!

People dealing with terminal cancer, post traumatic stress disorder, and other issues were helped. I gotta think that's a good thing.

I have never understood why the govt. thinks certain chemicals are not acceptable when dealing with discomfort. I went through a horrible bone disorder, and would prefer never taking pain meds again if there was a better way to deal with the physical and mental side of it.

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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: LanLord]
#13159511 - 09/07/10 11:51 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I agree.

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badchad
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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: Dan4th]
#13159758 - 09/07/10 12:46 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I would be curious about the outcome measures chosen for study.

I'd question the relevance of some of those. Beck depression, POMS, STAI...etc.

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Re: Results of Harbor-UCLA Psilocybin Study Published Online in Archives of General Psychiatry Today! [Re: badchad]
#13161032 - 09/07/10 04:35 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Isn't there a big difference between synthetic heroin and the real thing? I wonder how much different the synthetic is. I bet it's great with none of the other psychoactive alkaloids in mushrooms

I wonder how much more pleasant synthetic varieties can be.

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