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 Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana
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Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana
September 5, 2010 - Drug War Chronicle
 In a Seattle Times op-ed Saturday, former US Attorney for the Western District of Washington John McKay defected to the other side. As the federal prosecutor in Seattle, McKay oversaw the indictment and prosecution of Canadian marijuana seed seller and pot advocate Marc Emery, who now sits in an American federal detention facility awaiting the formal handing down of a five-year prison sentence later this month.
But while he thinks Emery and most pot-smokers are "idiots," McKay has come to see the futility of continuing to enforce marijuana prohibition. "As Emery's prosecutor and a former federal law-enforcement official, however, I'm not afraid to say out loud what most of my former colleagues know is true: Our marijuana policy is dangerous and wrong and should be changed through the legislative process to better protect the public safety," he wrote.
Marijuana prohibition "has utterly failed," McKay concluded. "The demand for marijuana in this country has for decades outpaced the ability of law enforcement to eliminate it," he declared, ready to throw in the towel.
"Brave agents and cops continue to risk their lives in a futile attempt to enforce misguided laws that do not match the realities of our society," he wrote. "These same agents and cops, along with prosecutors, judges and jailers, know we can't win by arresting all those involved in the massive importation, growth or distribution of marijuana, nor by locking up all the pot smokers."
Pot prohibition fills the pockets of "Mexican and other international drug cartels and gangs," even though marijuana is nowhere nearly as harmful to users as other illegal drugs, McKay wrote.
"So the policy is wrong, the law has failed, the public is endangered, no one in law enforcement is talking about it and precious few policymakers will honestly face the soft-on-crime sound bite in their next elections. What should be done?" McKay asks.
It is a rhetorical question, of course, and McKay has answers: Recognize that the real public safety danger to Americans is not from marijuana but from prohibition, build policy on "sound science, not myth," and... drum roll please... "We should give serious consideration to heavy regulation and taxation of the marijuana industry (an industry that is very real and dangerously underground). We should limit pot's content of the active ingredient THC (tetrahydrocannabinol), regulate its sale to adults who are dumb enough to want it and maintain criminal penalties for sales, possession or use by minors, drivers and boaters."
Not to worry, though, McKay assures his erstwhile partners in the prohibition racket. There will be years to come of extirpating criminality from the former black market, and that means job security: "DEA and its law-enforcement partners must therefore remain well equipped and staffed to accomplish this task: to protect our families from truly dangerous drugs and to drive drug cartels, gangs and dope dealers from our society."
Still, a remarkably candid confession from a man who made a living prosecuting marijuana offenders. Too bad he didn't find himself on the road to Damascus when he still had the prosecutors' powers.
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Re: Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana [Re: veggie]
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he still wants it illegal just in a different form "heavy regulation" thats the same as being a caretaker you have all your paperwork in order so the feds know where you live then they bust you for following the law. he also wants the heavy regulated pot to be shitty pot witch will create its own problems "pissed off hippies"
fuck this guy
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Re: Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana [Re: Mike711]
#13151053 - 09/05/10 01:24 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Another public figure has finally taken their head out of their ass seen the light and come over to the rational side.
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Re: Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana [Re: Odd_Nonposter]
#13151373 - 09/05/10 02:42 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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. he also wants the heavy regulated pot to be shitty pot witch will create its own problems "pissed off hippies"
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Re: Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana [Re: wowitch17]
#13151665 - 09/05/10 03:53 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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this guy is like a closed mind that can not deny that we are right and at the same time still believes that his old point of view was correct as well. Actually seems a bit insane when you read the whole article. Has this Edgar Alan Poe feel to it. But hey at least he is trying to see some reason through his fog.
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Re: Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana [Re: wowitch17]
#13151672 - 09/05/10 03:56 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2012804422_guest05mckay.html
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We should limit pot's content of the active ingredient THC (tetrahydrocannabinol)
 in other words..legalize industrial hemp..not marijuana...(*)that sounds like something nut-meg whitman pulled out of her skanky hole...
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Brave agents and cops continue to risk their lives in a futile attempt to enforce misguided laws that do not match the realities of our society.
on a more serious note.. one could just as easily argue that the said agents and cops are trying to change the misguided realities of society to match the laws (see (*)..above)...
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Re: Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana [Re: Annapurna1]
#13151767 - 09/05/10 04:14 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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i wonder if this guy drinks? if he does, what an idiot.
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Re: Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana [Re: blackstatis]
#13151962 - 09/05/10 05:06 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I know. Weed is much safer overall than alcohol. But if he called for, say whiskey, to be limited in alcohol content, the uproar would be tremendous.
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Re: Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana [Re: ToiletDuk]
#13151998 - 09/05/10 05:14 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Did anyone see he wanted to have the amount of THC in it limited?
Fuck that.
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Re: Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana [Re: TTT]
#13152003 - 09/05/10 05:15 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, we did.
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Re: Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana [Re: TTT]
#13152232 - 09/05/10 06:08 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Did anyone see he wanted to have the amount of THC in it limited?
Fuck that.
These propotiositions are so fucking stupid. Just outright fucking legalize it, it's none of the governments goddamn business if people want high quality thc.
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Re: Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana [Re: skatealex2]
#13152304 - 09/05/10 06:24 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Only in Stephen Harper's Canada could someone like Marc Emery be extradited to the USA.
They even tried to make the case that each seed equaled X pounds of marijuana
ahahahahahahaa
Emery's got balls to go along with the mock court and justice
I'll say that for him.
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Re: Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana [Re: mrEdude]
#13152498 - 09/05/10 07:13 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Can we limit this guy's ability to limit our THC content?
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Re: Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana [Re: veggie]
#13153096 - 09/05/10 09:14 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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The whole prohibition movement was and still is huge (dollars and supporters). It will continue to be a hard pressed fight against prohibition for years, in spite of what MIGHT happen in California this year.
I see this announcement as a good thing. It is another step in the right direction. Not every politician is going to sign-on to the legalization movement, so I am thankful for those that do, even if they do so while at the same time making "CYA" statements like smokers lacking good judgment or having a need to regulate THC content. It is a politically frightening move for them and I can't blame those who slowly walk on uncertain ground.
It seems to me that McKay is at least trying to redirect his moral and political compass. I think if you give people like him enough time then you will see that they can be persuaded to acknowledge further truths that they have been ignoring. Someone like McKay has a history with various political bodies, law enforcement agencies, investigation-based organizations (CIA/FBI), and constituents that have supported his career. He and his family will experience blow-back from this. People are going to be mad at him and he knows it.
McKay took a calculated risk and, whether you support his "aside" comments of not, is now helping the cause of cannabis smokers.
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Re: Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana [Re: CrayolaHalls]
#13153386 - 09/05/10 10:28 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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The whole prohibition movement was and still is huge (dollars and supporters). It will continue to be a hard pressed fight against prohibition for years, in spite of what MIGHT happen in California this year.
and that holds doubly true when most voters see it as a "war on marijuana" rather than "marijuana prohibition"...
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Re: Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana [Re: veggie]
#13154904 - 09/06/10 11:10 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Much as his personal attacks on potsmokers are obnoxious, it's good to see someone like this switching sides. I wonder how many, like him before now, continue to live in active denial.
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Re: Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana [Re: BlindSophist]
#13155509 - 09/06/10 01:58 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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adults who are dumb enough to want it
what a fucking prick. does this asshole even realize the extent of the rich and prosperous people who smoke pot? who is more of an idiot, someone who willingly consumes something that is PROVEN to give you cancer, or something that is PROVEN to have never killed a single person? or how about the millions who are dumb enough to allow alcohol to take over their lives and kill them?
ill bet there are tens of thousands of people far more successful than him that smoke pot regularly.
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Re: Marc Emery Prosecutor Now Says Legalize Marijuana [Re: veggie]
#13155812 - 09/06/10 03:01 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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first off, I knew that the Marc Emery prosecution would eventually martyr Emery and actually strengthen the pro-legalization movement...
I didn't expect something like this though.
I don't know whether to take his asides as covering his ass (meaning he doesn't even believe those statements, but needs a leg to stand on still) or as that he does believe those things, although stupidly.
Then again, i don't care. This is right up there with Barry McCafferty, the former drug czars, statements. It is definitely a step in the right direction, and if anything at least that whole argument of "why not go after the real harmful drugs if its such an issue, why waste time on pot if those other things are so bad? hmmm?
hopefully we can at least get more towards the mindset of "its just pot, there's more important matters"
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