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 What shroom
#13129033 - 08/31/10 12:41 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Hi all, was presented with what looked like a baby amanita muscaria by one of my kids. He had founded it on the edge of a path through an evergreen forest, and I was just wondering if it is what I thought it was!
Above is a top down pic.
Above is a side view
and above is a picture of the gills.
There were similar shrooms near it which appeared to be bigger versions that had there tops splayed out and the white spots washed off.
So any ideas folks?
Thanks for reading
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13129047 - 08/31/10 12:44 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Yes it's Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata
aka Amanita amerimuscaria.
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13129095 - 08/31/10 12:52 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, the magical Fly Agaric
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Re: What shroom [Re: SWFL]
#13132450 - 09/01/10 05:44 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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good to know, are ones that size good to eat?
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13132587 - 09/01/10 06:56 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Also, the bigger flattened out shrooms I take it are the Fly Agaric when it has grown out and the white bits have fallen off?
Big thanks to all for replying.
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13132686 - 09/01/10 07:32 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I wouldn't eat that shit if I were you, but that's just me.....
Don't the American variations just make you sweat a lot and cause delirium?
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13132717 - 09/01/10 07:43 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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As I understand it they can be made edible by proper preparation.
On the other hand if by 'good to eat' you mean 'make you see the spirit world' there is only one way to find out If you are brave enough, dry them thoroughly and eat them. You may get sick, you may get lost in space or you may just get disappointed. Either way they probably won't kill you.
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Re: What shroom [Re: SWFL]
#13132746 - 09/01/10 07:57 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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You should dry them before eating them as drying kills various poisons. Still probably feel sick though. Never tried them but would like to one day. I'm on the look out for them lately actually, was this in Europe or US? UK?
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Quote:
St. Chibes said:
I wouldn't eat that shit if I were you, but that's just me.....
Why is that?
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13132762 - 09/01/10 08:01 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
nuube said:
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St. Chibes said:
I wouldn't eat that shit if I were you, but that's just me.....
Why is that?
It'll make you feel sick, unpleasant, anxious and uncomfortable.
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Re: What shroom [Re: elprawn]
#13132797 - 09/01/10 08:10 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
elprawn said:
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nuube said:
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St. Chibes said:
I wouldn't eat that shit if I were you, but that's just me.....
Why is that?
It'll make you feel sick, unpleasant, anxious and uncomfortable.
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Well it's not something you want to do just to have a good time. To be treated with respect I think.
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If psiloc(yb)in was legal, no one would eat this. It's all a big conspiracy propagated by headshops.
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13133113 - 09/01/10 10:02 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I am aware that the consumption of natural psychedelics can have unpleasant side effects such as nausea, gas and vomiting. I have taken Liberty Caps before with no ill effects, (50), and HWBR seeds which left me puking and feeling bloated.
I suppose what I am asking is:
1 Is the shroom pictured mature enough to eat?
2 Are the older more spread out with washed off white bits safe enough to eat, (they will not kill me)?
3 Will I experience hallucinogenic effects as described here:
http://www.a-muscaria.com/amanita-muscaria-basics.php
I have never tried these before but have in my younger years dabbled with various hallucinogens and would like to experiment with some ethnobotanicals.
Any all advice/opinions welcomed.
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13133141 - 09/01/10 10:10 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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1 Yes, it is "old enough"
2 yes, no problem
3 they are not hallucinogenic, they are a deliriant.
The small young one in the pics is not enough to feel the effects. Don't eat them fresh, dry them out, preferably in the sun. That will aid the ibotenic acid -> muscimol conversion.
I don't eat them. I prefer a good solid psilocybin trip to a questionable Amanita high that may either happen or cause projectile vomiting.
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Quote:
German Kahuna said:
1 Yes, it is "old enough"
2 yes, no problem
3 they are not hallucinogenic, they are a deliriant.
The small young one in the pics is not enough to feel the effects. Don't eat them fresh, dry them out, preferably in the sun. That will aid the ibotenic acid -> muscimol conversion.
I don't eat them. I prefer a good solid psilocybin trip to a questionable Amanita high that may either happen or cause projectile vomiting.
Thanks very much for the info. I would love to try the Liberty Caps again, I just have no luck in finding them  . I am keen to try the Fly Agaric as I have never tried them before, so would appreciate any advice from seasoned users.
Another question is:
Do I just eat the cap? (I have heard conflicting stories on this).
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13133325 - 09/01/10 10:54 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, the cap is where it's at.
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13133474 - 09/01/10 11:28 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Pretty find! When we ate these, we heated them. The effect was a sleepy state and there was lots of tearing and drooling. Not the most fun state to be in.
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I eat the liberty cap stems as well. It all contains goodies.
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Pretty find! When we ate these, we heated them. The effect was a sleepy state and there was lots of tearing and drooling. Not the most fun state to be in.
How do you mean TEARING? Don't like the sound of that!! Would it be any good for an introspective time?
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13134076 - 09/01/10 01:32 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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What I meant by tearing is that my tear ducts were working overtime, as well as my sinuses. My eyes leaked tears for three hours. It was not really an experience I would repeat again, although I wouldn't go back and NOT do it. You might do some research or check the trip reports for other accounts.
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13137207 - 09/02/10 03:45 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Bumpity bump!!!! 
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13141818 - 09/03/10 05:58 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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dry it up and load a bowl of MJ. smoke it along with it.. it gives you a different high.
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13165048 - 09/08/10 12:10 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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OK folks. Been out walking and came across these where the original mushroom was. Now the first picture is of 2 large mushrooms. No white spots on it but I have found others where the spots were sliding off.
These next ones were small ones found in the same sort of terrain although they are small they have no spots and are of a lighter hue than the original pic that I posted:
SO - my questions are:
1) Are these Fly Argaric too?
2) Do I need to do anything other than dry them at this time?
Thanks to all who have posted and who will post. I am keen to see what Fly is like and if I can I hope to get me some liberty caps this season too. SO I really appreciate all help.
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13165087 - 09/08/10 12:18 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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First one yes, second is a Russula. (or lobster meat)
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Thanks for the reply caphillkid. Is there anything other than drying need to be done at this time?
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13165615 - 09/08/10 02:03 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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heat it.
an open oven set on low.
should be around 170 degrees?
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heat it.
an open oven set on low.
should be around 170 degrees?
For how long roughly, and thanks for the info.
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13166302 - 09/08/10 03:51 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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until they are cracker dry.
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13166356 - 09/08/10 04:02 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for that will get that sorted in the am.
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13166366 - 09/08/10 04:04 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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if you consume them, let me know how that goes for you.
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if you consume them, let me know how that goes for you.
Will do. It's been a while since I have done anything like that and never used these so I have a bit of research ahead of me.
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13166526 - 09/08/10 04:32 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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if you consume them, let me know how that goes for you.
Will do. It's been a while since I have done anything like that and never used these so I have a bit of research ahead of me.
i tried 10g dried that i harvested myself today, it was my first time. i was pleasently surprised. i dont get why Amanita muscaria has such a bad rep. it was a strange trip, but by no means did i find it unpleasant.
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sunxshine said:
if you consume them, let me know how that goes for you.
Will do. It's been a while since I have done anything like that and never used these so I have a bit of research ahead of me.
i tried 10g dried that i harvested myself today, it was my first time. i was pleasently surprised. i dont get why Amanita muscaria has such a bad rep. it was a strange trip, but by no means did i find it unpleasant.
So how did it go?
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13168893 - 09/09/10 02:51 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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So was cleaning the shrooms this morning to dry them and I noticed a lot of little parasites in the gills. This is a picture of them:
It meant I had to get rid of most of the gills and I cleaned them well but still unsure if they are safe to eat. I have them drying in the oven at the minute as per sunxshine's instructions.
SO anyone know what they are and if the shrooms are safe to eat, (does it indicate that they are past their best or other wise infected.). Many thanks.
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13168928 - 09/09/10 03:40 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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awwwwwww! I bet that little fella was having the time of his life until you picked him off!!
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awwwwwww! I bet that little fella was having the time of his life until you picked him off!!
Well in fairness I didn't take all the shrooms that were there. He didn't pick the right one to host him!! Any idea what they are?
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13173404 - 09/09/10 11:36 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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So anyone identify the little bugger yet? I am getting no joy with Google!!
Still keen to know if the shrooms are safe to eat?
Thanks for all replies.
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13173482 - 09/10/10 12:04 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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That little "bugger" is fly/gnat larvae and they're harmless to consume in my experience but if the mushroom is riddled it's wise to discard it like any infected foodstuff. Most wild harvested mushrooms have one or two that inevitably end up in our bellies.
Your mushrooms are "safe" in regards that they wont kill or make you seriously ill but they could make you feel unpleasant for a few hours. Some people do find them to be pleasant though.
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That little "bugger" is fly/gnat larvae and they're harmless to consume in my experience but if the mushroom is riddled it's wise to discard it like any infected foodstuff. Most wild harvested mushrooms have one or two that inevitably end up in our bellies.
Your mushrooms are "safe" in regards that they wont kill or make you seriously ill but they could make you feel unpleasant for a few hours. Some people do find them to be pleasant though.
Cheers for the info mate. As I cleaned them and scrapped most of the inside out to get rid of the buggers I will probably stick with it, now that I know they will still be psychoactive and not going to poison me.
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13175597 - 09/10/10 01:39 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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OK I decided I wouldn't eat food that was infested so I dinned the shrooms and went and got others that were OK. Am I right to leave the stem in the ground so the shroom can grow again?
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13175661 - 09/10/10 01:57 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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wonderful bravo bravo
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Quote:
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wonderful bravo bravo
Not quite sure, is that sarcasm?Quote:
John Candy said:
wonderful bravo bravo
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13177811 - 09/10/10 09:07 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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why no you fool ... it was a wonderful find
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fuck it, youre drying them out anyway, it doesnt matter if those little bugs are in there. its just a little extra protein.
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why no you fool ... it was a wonderful find
My apologies = thank you.
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fuck it, youre drying them out anyway, it doesnt matter if those little bugs are in there. its just a little extra protein.
True - but I am vegetarian  
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13178628 - 09/11/10 02:24 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I find the buzz to be like a muscle relaxer, glassy vision, somewhats taller feeling, as though things close are further away, pain relief better than Tylenol for the daily aches, feeling of well being..
They are not hallucinogenic!!
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I find the buzz to be like a muscle relaxer, glassy vision, somewhats taller feeling, as though things close are further away, pain relief better than Tylenol for the daily aches, feeling of well being..
They are not hallucinogenic!!
Yeah. I am really interested as I have had hallucinogenics before both chemical and natural and never a 'deleriant' that this is meant to be. I am a wee bit concerned as I have a vague memory of another ethnogen which was a delieriant but was quite nasty - just cant remember what it was!!
Even have arranged a sitter for this and I normally don't use one!
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Re: What shroom [Re: nuube]
#13180025 - 09/11/10 11:52 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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a sitter?.. lol, NO!! I cant wait to trip alone, I dont like people around me..
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a sitter?.. lol, NO!! I cant wait to trip alone, I dont like people around me..
Yeah - have always been the same, but as said don't know about this one as it is not a hallucinogen but a deliriant!
This doesn't make them sound too good:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deliriant
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