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the bizzle
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: badphish]
#12988509 - 08/02/10 12:20 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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it might just not be very suited to your chemistry.
Paranoid schizophrenics, for example, generally have a hellishly paranoid time while high, and should simply avoid it. Personally, I had much more anxiety before discovering weed. Perhaps you should take a deeper look at what is really causing your anxiety, whether it be life situation, diet, environment, or biology. Weed itself does not equal anxiety, there are other factors, and for you (and many others), maybe now or maybe always, weed may not be for you
also different strains have different effects in regards to anxiety. some are far more likely to cause anxiety in many given situations
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Edited by the bizzle (08/02/10 12:21 AM)
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badphish
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: igwna]
#12988516 - 08/02/10 12:21 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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dont quite follow you there
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: badphish]
#12988556 - 08/02/10 12:33 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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badphish said: dont quite follow you there
i wasn't asking you to
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: badphish]
#12988564 - 08/02/10 12:35 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree with most of whats said in this thread. Set and setting can clearly cause anxiety with pot, and underlying issues definitely add to the anxiety.
But part of me is suspicious that pot may cause anxiety without any real external or internal influences. Some may just get anxiety with pot as the primary and only cause. That is what I meant to say in my original post but failed to fully articulate.
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: igwna]
#12988584 - 08/02/10 12:42 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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well it kinda of confusing when you reply to my post and then edit who you replied to after posting
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: Xpatriot] 1
#12988654 - 08/02/10 01:05 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have smoke enormous amounts of weed, off and on, for the past 15 years.
I can't prove this to you, but I think the paranoia, the fear, is only pointing something that people have been able to ignore in themselves.
An opening up of possibilities, even of the bad possibilities.
I had something like an once of nice hash, traveled toward Nepal from India, and stayed in a hotel to finish it with whoever showed up. I have experienced pot anxiety before and after that, but never to that extreme. Border guards everywhere. I'm sure the smell of hash was obvious. I was in my room with strangers smoking great quantities.
Let go of the fear.
That fear is real.
Smoking pot has taught me how to let go of fear in many circumstances.
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: Xpatriot]
#12990371 - 08/02/10 12:25 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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the bizzle said: Weed itself does not equal anxiety, there are other factors, and for you (and many others), maybe now or maybe always, weed may not be for you
Right and wrong. Weed itself does cause anxiety, even without other factors. But other factors do contribute to it.
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Xpatriot said: But part of me is suspicious that pot may cause anxiety without any real external or internal influences. Some may just get anxiety with pot as the primary and only cause. That is what I meant to say in my original post but failed to fully articulate.
That's exactly it, if you read my last post, you'll see why.
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THC has been shown to inhibit GABA neurotransmission in the brain via several pathways.
Nora Laaris et. al., "Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol is a full agonist at CB1 receptors on GABA neuron axon terminals in the hippocampus." Neuropharmacology, Vol. 59, No. 1-2, 121-127. 2010
A. Hoffman, "Mechanisms of Cannabinoid Inhibition of GABA-A Synaptic Transmission in the Hippocampus." J. Neurosci., 20(7):2470-2479. 2000.
There's some sources for you. One by Hoffman, whom I'm sure you're familiar with.
Inhibition of GABA neurotransmission is a well known cause of anxiety and agitation. But after smoking for a while, you can desensitize your brain to that inhibition, decreasing anxiety with use. It's possible that this desensitization can also reduce anxiety in everyday sober life.
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: Xpatriot]
#12990414 - 08/02/10 12:34 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cannabis CAN trigger anxiety. This is not news.
It reduces anxiety in me however. Not everyone is the same.
Been smoking pot for 15+ years.
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: Xpatriot]
#12990448 - 08/02/10 12:39 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Xpatriot said: Im making this post because I have seen too many threads and articles about smoking weed and anxiety. It has become quite clear to me and others that weed is a serious cause of anxiety.
It's not a cause of your anxiety, it just unmercifully reveals it to you at times. It's worth it IMO.
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: Xpatriot]
#12990488 - 08/02/10 12:49 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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P.S
Marijuana does not cause anxiety. It can trigger it. Unresolved subconscious emotions and stress cause anxiety.
Not being able to put your sock on right the first time, can be a trigger of anxiety.
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: Xpatriot]
#12990609 - 08/02/10 01:13 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Xpatriot said: Im making this post because I have seen too many threads and articles about smoking weed and anxiety. It has become quite clear to me and others that weed is a serious cause of anxiety.
Anxiety that will make you hate your life for years and make weed even worse. Ive seen it a thousand times, how can people think this drug is so harmless?
Im beginning to think that the paranoia experienced while high(which is not the result of it being illegal) activates parts of the brain regulating anxiety. The more this part of the brain is activated, the easier it is to become anxious to benign stimuli.
So yeah just wanted to get that out there, I know literally tons of people smoking weed who have serious anxiety problems. This drug is serious despite everyone's best efforts to convince themselves its not.
ps.-- i added a bit of exaggeration just lettin you know though, weed is def a serious contributor to most peopels anxiety problems.
ANY chemical can cause "anxiety" ANY experience. The source of anxiety is deeper than the chemical...a chemical is just a catalyst for your minds experience...
For some the organic chemical in the marijuana plant is used to RELIEVE anxiety, just like the chemical you get at the doctor, BUT NO WHERE NEAR as damaging.
Can weed cause anxiety in regular use? Im sure of it...But to demonize in the way you are doing is un-intelligent...As their exists much deeper sources of anxiety in our world, regardless of any chemical stimuli we consume...
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: Shroomism]
#12990632 - 08/02/10 01:18 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cannabis only really gives me anxiety in certain situations, the people i usually smoke with are quite.. spontaneous, what i mean by this is after we smoke they always crave some kind of crazy adventure which is often times very stupid. Normally i realize this which raises anxiety, but for some reason i just love the rush of it all, and anxiety adds onto that. I wouldn't give up that nervous excited feeling for anything
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: the bizzle]
#12990636 - 08/02/10 01:19 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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just what 'part' of the brain, exactly, regulates anxiety? which neurotransmitters carry it?
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: Taco Chef]
#12990695 - 08/02/10 01:27 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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novumorganum said: just what 'part' of the brain, exactly, regulates anxiety? which neurotransmitters carry it?
Exactly. I find nuero science interesting as fuck...But I also find that a lot of people that quote it know nothing about it.
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: TeamAmerica]
#12990702 - 08/02/10 01:29 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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TeamAmerica said: The source of anxiety is deeper than the chemical...a chemical is just a catalyst for your minds experience...
The source of anxiety is a chemical.
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: Poid]
#12990706 - 08/02/10 01:29 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Poid said:
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TeamAmerica said: The source of anxiety is deeper than the chemical...a chemical is just a catalyst for your minds experience...
The source of anxiety is a chemical.
Explain....
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igwna
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: badphish]
#12991450 - 08/02/10 03:39 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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badphish said: well it kinda of confusing when you reply to my post and then edit who you replied to after posting
didn't edit anything. maybe you just can't read very well
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: Xpatriot]
#12991539 - 08/02/10 03:58 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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So everyone who smokes weed has anxiety problems or if you have anxiety problems it is because you smoke weed?
I have anxiety and i have always used weed to control it. But that is just me, some people do the same, others cant.
Saying weed is a severe cause of anxiety is like saying whores are drunks (some are but not all, some just have daddy issues and use a penis to replace daddy)
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: igwna]
#12991617 - 08/02/10 04:14 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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lol, i love this. Its very true. I know a ton of people that smoke weed, and nearly all of them will agree it effects them negatively but still they love it.
I love the people that it makes them anxious and depressed, but they smoke it to ease their anxiety and depression. I have met many people like that.
i remember i used to smoke with my friends that smoked every day, and i was describing its effects on me and why i don't like. They were like "yeah we get all of that too"
whatever i like dxm so i can't say shit really.
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Re: Pot HAS to be a serious cause of anxiety [Re: truekimbo2]
#12991623 - 08/02/10 04:15 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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if pot makes you anxious you have issues you need to work on. simple as that
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