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A cube really is a cube.
    #12971259 - 07/29/10 09:52 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

So, on this, my first grow, I went to so much trouble to keep my jars labeled so I could keep track of strain and progress.  Then after I birth them and stare at them all sitting in the same dunking vessel I realize that now I have no idea which is which.  Really all I cared about at this point was knowing which strain of the 2 is which.  No problem I thought because I made a case with 2 cakes of the same strain and I knew which strain it was so I figured, let them grow and you'll easily be able to tell which is which.  They are probably at least half way grown now and they are all identical.  I can't tell which is which at all. 

As they fully develop will they differentiate?


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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: Kryptic]
    #12971262 - 07/29/10 09:53 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Kryptic said: As they fully develop will they differentiate?




What you see is what you get. Cubes is cubes.


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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: Kryptic]
    #12971264 - 07/29/10 09:54 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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So, on this, my first grow, I went to so much trouble to keep my jars labeled so I could keep track of strain and progress.  Then after I birth them and stare at them all sitting in the same dunking vessel I realize that now I have no idea which is which.  Really all I cared about at this point was knowing which strain of the 2 is which.  No problem I thought because I made a case with 2 cakes of the same strain and I knew which strain it was so I figured, let them grow and you'll easily be able to tell which is which.  They are probably at least half way grown now and they are all identical.  I can't tell which is which at all. 

As they fully develop will they differentiate?




Most of them end up looking the same. I doubt you'll be able to tell the difference.


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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: Kryptic]
    #12971273 - 07/29/10 09:56 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

As far as I know they should look different but all cubes are the same in potency......


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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: Doc_T]
    #12971281 - 07/29/10 09:58 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

What's funny though is that on the spore websites the shrooms look pretty different.  Oh well, I'm figuring this out, I have found one that works well for me I'll just stick with it for a while.


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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: Kryptic]
    #12971283 - 07/29/10 09:58 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

multispore inoculations of different stains are not all that different looking really. They are all Psylocibe Cubensis. Once you start isolating the cultivars you will notice a larger difference, but really, keep in mind that they are all P. Cubensis.

You can selectivley isolate them to bring them down to specific traits you are looking for, so i dare to say you can isolate man different "strains" from a multispore syringe. Selective isolation on agar media is where this is usually done.

When you inoculate using multi-spore syringes you create lots of different mycelia that individually show different traits, but once they merge inside your jar they "fuse" their genetic material (i am using loose terms here) and they show a more generalized apearance.
I would not be suprised if two different multispore syringes that are supposed to be different "strains" look absoloutley the same. You will notice the biggest difference once you start isolating.


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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: Kryptic]
    #12971291 - 07/29/10 10:00 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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What's funny though is that on the spore websites the shrooms look pretty different. 




Yep. But that's one pic of one grow.

You may get a batch that grow tall, or have spots. But it's not because of the name on the syringe.


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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: Kryptic]
    #12971293 - 07/29/10 10:01 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

The only bad consequence of this, really, is that you won't really be able to make/trade prints, because people will want to know what genetics they're getting.

Yes there can be differences (IME) in appearance, potency, and trip quality, but they're probably too subtle to matter much unless you collect and trade strains.  Just enjoy your cubensis mushrooms this time, I guess :grin:


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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: andymc]
    #12971305 - 07/29/10 10:06 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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andymc said:
The only bad consequence of this, really, is that you won't really be able to make/trade prints, because people will want to know what genetics they're getting.





Well, I do 100% know where one strain is (my case) so I def can get prints of that one.  It's the other that I'm not sure of.


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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: Kryptic]
    #12971888 - 07/29/10 12:13 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Are you saying that you put multiple different strains into one box?


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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: jero25]
    #12972076 - 07/29/10 12:47 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Yes, is this not good?  2 strains, 1 terrarium; 6 cakes, 1 case.


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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: Kryptic]
    #12972088 - 07/29/10 12:50 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

SO WHATS THE BEST STRAIN??

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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: anonjon]
    #12972161 - 07/29/10 01:02 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I would imagine they Should be fine


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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: jero25]
    #12972195 - 07/29/10 01:09 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Guys, for the ten thousandth time, a collection of spores is not a strain.  When you learn to isolate single sectors of dikaryotic mycelium, THEN you'll have a strain.  Until then, cubes are cubes. . .period.
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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #12972246 - 07/29/10 01:17 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
Guys, for the ten thousandth time, a collection of spores is not a strain.  When you learn to isolate single sectors of dikaryotic mycelium, THEN you'll have a strain.  Until then, cubes are cubes. . .period.
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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: jero25]
    #12972253 - 07/29/10 01:18 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Yeah! What that guy said, lol.
Good quote too man!


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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: anonjon]
    #12972286 - 07/29/10 01:24 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Seems to be Ecuador.  So this flush is bananas, but I have a couple questions:

The base of some of the larger ones seem a little grey, not sure if that's just blueing?

Also, on some of the smaller ones the veils seem to have already broke but they did not drop any spores should I just go ahead an pluck them now?



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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: Kryptic]
    #12972392 - 07/29/10 01:45 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I cant really answer that because I am novice at best but, I do like those pics!


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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: Kryptic]
    #12972409 - 07/29/10 01:47 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Now that I look closer there are a few that the veils have either broken or are very close, don't know why I was expecting them to be much larger.


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Re: A cube really is a cube. [Re: Kryptic]
    #12973274 - 07/29/10 04:13 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Now that I look closer there are a few that the veils have either broken or are very close, don't know why I was expecting them to be much larger.




Some of those cakes have quite a few mushrooms. Usually if there are many mushrooms, the overall size of them tend to be on the small side. They stop growing when the moisture in the cakes is about to run out. You'll notice on cakes with few pins a lot of times end up with bigger mushrooms because of more water available to them, while cakes with many pins usually have smaller mushrooms.


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