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curenado said:



"Meth is bad but ritalin and adderal cure everything!"

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curenado said:



"Meth is bad but ritalin and adderal cure everything!"

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piracetam said:
so the dilemma becomes, substitute one vice with another. brilliant.

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exactly.

if ritalin can keep cocaine addicts happy, then why not?

if they arent going to quit, at least make it a bit safer with the legitamately produced amphetamine and methylphenidate

the best thing would be when the addicts decide for themselves that they need to quit, and actually truely beleive it. thats what gets people off drugs, not fancy treatmens (mostly)

if you force someone to quit and they dont want to yet (maybe never), then as soon as you get them clean somehow, in a hospital bed or locked in somewhere for example.
as soon as they get out, they are going to go buy some drugs most likely, as they never wanted to quit anyway.

people should be supporting learning about yourself and correct information, not ibogaine and substituting cocaine for ritalin, or heroin for methadone.

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piracetam said:
and i have a hard time believing ritalin is a solution to addiction. it would likely make the person dependent on ritalin.

but then again, that's how pharm companies make money. ongoing "treatment"

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Tchan909 said:


I think there's a pretty meaningful difference between taking a 10mg tab of ritalin with breakfast and snorting a gram of coke off a mirror with beer.

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But it may not be entirely different than injecting ritalin (which is what they did in the study).

In terms of clinical outcome, methylphenidate has mixed (e.g. relatively poor) results in the treatment of cocaine dependence. 

This brings into question the relevance of laboratory assessments  of "inhibitory control" to actual cocaine abstinence.

Further, if cocaine also reduces "inhibitory control" to a degree similar to methylphenidate, then you're faced with the question of whether methylphenidate would actually outperform a low-dose, cocaine substitution therapy in terms of abstinence.



NIH funded the study.

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Researchers from Yale University gave 10 volunteers Ritalin and then used functional MRI to scan their brain activity while they engaged in a computer task that assessed impulse control. When the 10 subjects received Ritalin, they were better able to control their impulses than during a separate session, two days later, when they received a placebo instead of the medication. Functional MRI scans showed changes from Ritalin use in brain areas that reflect inhibitory control, particularly a region called the ventromedial prefrontal cortex. This part of the brain seems to be crucial to "behavioral control during emotionally difficult situations," the authors wrote. And Ritalin appears to help normalize it.

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