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Truskool's explosive LC tek * 1
    #12959106 - 07/26/10 11:10 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

This tek isnt all me.  CH HELL gave me the idea and I added something to it.  Thanks CH.  Mad love and respect.  I seem to have issues getting MS LC's to work.  My LC's are usually made from watever LC tek then I take a piece of colonized grain and transfer it into the LC to get growth.  When I do this tek I get mad explosive growth very quickly.

Things needed

2 teaspoons of karo

3 packets of sugar in the raw from your local starbucks.(Buy a coffee and pocket the packets.)

Gypsum

2 cups of water
1 quart jar
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Directions
1.  Measure out 2 teaspoons of karo and put the karo into your quart jar
2.  Add three packets of SITR to the quart
3.  Add the 2 cups of water
4.  Add one knifetip of gypsun to the mixture
5.  Put on LC lid
6.  Cover with foil
7.  PC for 20-45 minutes
8.  Once cool inject with spore syringe
9.  Wait for the growth

This is a pic of an LC that I made 6 days ago

Its not showing up that well but its fucking fat super quick.

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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool] * 1
    #12959187 - 07/26/10 11:25 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

:lol:

I remember we talked about adding gypsum to an LC months ago.

So it helps speed up the growth?

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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: Sci-Fi]
    #12959216 - 07/26/10 11:30 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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:lol:

I remember we talked about adding gypsum to an LC months ago.

So it helps speed up the growth?



Yea man it helps me out.  I told you id try it out and this is the result


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool] * 1
    #12959279 - 07/26/10 11:43 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I'd love to see a side-by-side of LC with/without gypsum.


Provided someone else does the work, of course!

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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: shroom-jitsu]
    #12959303 - 07/26/10 11:48 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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I'd love to see a side-by-side of LC with/without gypsum.


Provided someone else does the work, of course!



I might just do that I have some more LC's to make this week.


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool]
    #12959324 - 07/26/10 11:52 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I wanna play too.

I'm gunna do and lc to lc gyp no gyp test.

We'll call mine an "independent study".
...it seems to convince people in commercials.

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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: Sci-Fi]
    #12959359 - 07/26/10 11:58 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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I wanna play too.

I'm gunna do and lc to lc gyp no gyp test.

We'll call mine an "independent study".
...it seems to convince people in commercials.


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LOL go for it "independent studies" always convince me


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool]
    #12959445 - 07/27/10 12:14 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Can you find Karo at a grocery store?
Also i've read a post by someone stating that on an LC a lid with only silicone provides decent gas exchange. Is this true or false like i think it should be?

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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: deadmandave]
    #12959457 - 07/27/10 12:16 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yea im canadian and had a bitch of a time finding clear corn syrup(karo) but I eventually found it.

LC's need some sort of GE

Ill upload a pic of my lid in a minute
Ive just gotten these sweet lc ports.  Think they are called watman filters.  Ima make some new lids with them soon


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool]
    #12959483 - 07/27/10 12:19 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

These are my old school ghetto lids.  Tyvek on both sides and an rtv injection port.  Now my lc lids have synthetic filter disk material on the top and  apiece of tyvek on the bottom with a special injection port, but you get the idea


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool]
    #12959710 - 07/27/10 01:26 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Those watman filters look nice. I was thinking about doing similar ghetto lids with silicone and tyvek but i heard the tyvek gets nasty and you have to change it often, do you find this to be true? What about the method where you just use 2 peices of tyvek over the metal lid, doesnt you're inoculation needle make a hole big enough for contams?

For some reason im feeling self conscious or paranoid about my lids :shrug:

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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: deadmandave]
    #12959725 - 07/27/10 01:36 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Those watman filters look nice. I was thinking about doing similar ghetto lids with silicone and tyvek but i heard the tyvek gets nasty and you have to change it often, do you find this to be true? What about the method where you just use 2 peices of tyvek over the metal lid, doesnt you're inoculation needle make a hole big enough for contams?

For some reason im feeling self conscious or paranoid about my lids :shrug:



Thats the case period IME.  You have to redo the lids every so often as the tyvek shrinks and starts to get nasty after so many pc runs. The two piece of tyvek isnt going to work for an LC lid. For grains sure but not LC's.  When you use the two pieces of tyvek for a grain lid you would use micropore tape to cover the inoculation hole:shrug:  Hope this helps


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: deadmandave]
    #12959734 - 07/27/10 01:37 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

that LC just looks cloudy because of the gypsum, to me.

adding gypsum to anything makes it look like cream.


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: jingus]
    #12960472 - 07/27/10 08:49 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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that LC just looks cloudy because of the gypsum, to me.

adding gypsum to anything makes it look like cream.



The pic just sux.  I cant get a good pic of the LC.  It isnt cloudy.


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool]
    #12960620 - 07/27/10 09:45 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Ill have to try this.  I always do G2G but LC is one thing I havent took on in years of this hobby, something new and interesting.  And I have some CH1 from CH Hell to do it with.

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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: kechlesurf]
    #12960627 - 07/27/10 09:48 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Ill have to try this.  I always do G2G but LC is one thing I havent took on in years of this hobby, something new and interesting.  And I have some CH1 from CH Hell to do it with.



G2G is great, but starting it with MS kinda sucks with an LC you can have your first jar ready a bit quicker.

I think its kinda appropriate to do this LC with CH1


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool]
    #12961856 - 07/27/10 02:47 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Nice Tru,  I used SITR and Karo for a long time and always had great success.
Let me know how the gypsum works when you put the lc on grain,  hopefully it works out well.  I would personally save the gypsum for your spawn/sub though.  My thinking is adding gypsum to grains helps speed growth and keep the grains loose,  adding it to the lc could cause a delay in growth.  This is just theory and I have never tried it so again let me know how it works out for you.
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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool]
    #12961900 - 07/27/10 02:54 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I have a print of CH1 i can send you if you want it

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    #12962505 - 07/27/10 04:50 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Nice Tru,  I used SITR and Karo for a long time and always had great success.
Let me know how the gypsum works when you put the lc on grain,  hopefully it works out well.  I would personally save the gypsum for your spawn/sub though.  My thinking is adding gypsum to grains helps speed growth and keep the grains loose,  adding it to the lc could cause a delay in growth.  This is just theory and I have never tried it so again let me know how it works out for you.
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Interesting.  I never thought about that.  The LC in the pic is atl.  I want to do a side by side with some lizard king sometime this week and see wat's good.  I am always trying out new shit some times its a :failboat: other times its  :awesome2:

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I have a print of CH1 i can send you if you want it



Thanks alot man.  When CH dropped CH1 he hooked me up.  :highfive:


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool]
    #12963724 - 07/27/10 08:42 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Going to try this LC out and see how it works for me, just have to get SITR tomorrow  morning at Starbucks, and i have Karo pancake syrup, ill see how that works

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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool] * 2
    #12963831 - 07/27/10 09:02 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Have you tried the LC on a substrate yet? I'm curious as to how fast it gets going on grain.


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: FooMan]
    #12964088 - 07/27/10 09:44 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Going to try this LC out and see how it works for me, just have to get SITR tomorrow  morning at Starbucks, and i have Karo pancake syrup, ill see how that works



Make sure its clear white corn syrup.  Without mollasses or anything like that in it.

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Have you tried the LC on a substrate yet? I'm curious as to how fast it gets going on grain.



Ima shoot a jar in the next couple days.  Mind you this LC is ATL.  I am going to try some lizard king LC in the next cpl days also


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: FooMan]
    #12964161 - 07/27/10 09:59 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

LC inoculation leads to faster colonization than MS because
the spores do not have to have fungal-sex before growing out, and
because I have enough material to be generous when inoculating.


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    #12965357 - 07/28/10 05:25 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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LC inoculation leads to faster colonization than MS because
the spores do not have to have fungal-sex before growing out, and
because I have enough material to be generous when inoculating.




I know all about the "fungal sex" bro :lol: I asked because not all LC's take off fast when they hit grain. I've noticed LC's that contain a higher percentage of sugars in them may produce massive amounts of myc, but the mycelium isn't as vigorous when it gets put on grain. On the other hand, LC's that have a lower percentage of sugars in them may produce less myc, but the myc is very vigorous and tears through grain. Genetics obviously is a factor when talking about MS, but I'm talking about observations I've made from isolates and clones.

You always see different LC recipes posted where people show you massive gobs of myc in their jars, but no mention of how good the LC performed when it was game time.


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: FooMan]
    #12965395 - 07/28/10 05:58 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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LC inoculation leads to faster colonization than MS because
the spores do not have to have fungal-sex before growing out, and
because I have enough material to be generous when inoculating.




I know all about the "fungal sex" bro :lol: I asked because not all LC's take off fast when they hit grain. I've noticed LC's that contain a higher percentage of sugars in them may produce massive amounts of myc, but the mycelium isn't as vigorous when it gets put on grain. On the other hand, LC's that have a lower percentage of sugars in them may produce less myc, but the myc is very vigorous and tears through grain. Genetics obviously is a factor when talking about MS, but I'm talking about observations I've made from isolates and clones.

You always see different LC recipes posted where people show you massive gobs of myc in their jars, but no mention of how good the LC performed when it was game time.



The % of sugar is at the 4-5% area.  So this LC isnt heavily loaded with sugar just mixed types of sugars.  A quart from MS usually takes me about 30 days give or take.  So any time taken off that is golden for me.  I have never been lucky enough to get these fast colonization times.  For me shroom growing has been slow and steady.  I will make up some cube LC's with this recipe when I get the chance and see wats really really good and how well this LC responds when it hits the grain.  If any one tries this tek and wants to post there results by all means go ahead.


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool]
    #12965483 - 07/28/10 06:54 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

how many grams of sugar in the raw is in a pack? i got a big package of it just need to know the weight. thanks for the tek.

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    #12965731 - 07/28/10 08:44 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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LC inoculation leads to faster colonization than MS because
the spores do not have to have fungal-sex before growing out, and
because I have enough material to be generous when inoculating.




I know all about the "fungal sex" bro :lol: I asked because not all LC's take off fast when they hit grain. I've noticed LC's that contain a higher percentage of sugars in them may produce massive amounts of myc, but the mycelium isn't as vigorous when it gets put on grain. On the other hand, LC's that have a lower percentage of sugars in them may produce less myc, but the myc is very vigorous and tears through grain. Genetics obviously is a factor when talking about MS, but I'm talking about observations I've made from isolates and clones.

You always see different LC recipes posted where people show you massive gobs of myc in their jars, but no mention of how good the LC performed when it was game time.




Well, yes, pardon my assumption. (shoulda checked your start date)

I must say that this "technology" must be very advanced because
it is indistinguishable from magic ;0)

I say that because where you have found that sweeter media made
for stronger LC driven growth....
...but I swear that I have read elsewhere that you want to make the
LC's life harder, and that this will make it's growth better.

I am not recalling the technique that that commenter was using, whether it
was less (or even more I suppose) food, temp, or some other factor.

Well, please let us know what comes of the research.

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    #12965746 - 07/28/10 08:50 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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how many grams of sugar in the raw is in a pack? i got a big package of it just need to know the weight. thanks for the tek.



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    #12965871 - 07/28/10 09:33 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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I know all about the "fungal sex" bro :lol: I asked because not all LC's take off fast when they hit grain. I've noticed LC's that contain a higher percentage of sugars in them may produce massive amounts of myc, but the mycelium isn't as vigorous when it gets put on grain. On the other hand, LC's that have a lower percentage of sugars in them may produce less myc, but the myc is very vigorous and tears through grain. Genetics obviously is a factor when talking about MS, but I'm talking about observations I've made from isolates and clones.

You always see different LC recipes posted where people show you massive gobs of myc in their jars, but no mention of how good the LC performed when it was game time.



You don't know nothin' about fungal sex FooMan.  j/k  :lol:

My man, excellent point about an over looked testament about LC's.  The mentioning of how the recipe shreds the grains.  I have tested a few recipes, that shall remain nameless, that grow bountifully in the jars but once it hits the grains, you can kiss the mycelium goodbye.
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    #12967546 - 07/28/10 03:56 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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I say that because where you have found that sweeter media made
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...but I swear that I have read elsewhere that you want to make the
LC's life harder, and that this will make it's growth better.





That's basically what I was saying in the post you quoted. You want an LC that isn't too sweet otherwise the myc won't be as "hungry" for the grains.


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: FooMan]
    #12967644 - 07/28/10 04:16 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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I say that because where you have found that sweeter media made
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...but I swear that I have read elsewhere that you want to make the
LC's life harder, and that this will make it's growth better.





That's basically what I was saying in the post you quoted. You want an LC that isn't too sweet otherwise the myc won't be as "hungry" for the grains.



:thumbup:  Like I said before this LC is under %5 percent "sugar".  I totally understand about having a hungry LC


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool]
    #12967745 - 07/28/10 04:40 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I totally agree about having a hunger LC and that is why I was questioning the use of gypsum.  I have used up to 10% sugars with good results,  BUT  if you want to use the LC as soon as there is mycelium then  keep the sugars at 4%.  If you plan on keeping the lc for some time the higher lc sugar content will actually be helpful  and keep it growing for 6+ months.  The use of gypsum could cause the myc to have slower growth when it hit the grain,  like I said I am not sure on this because I have NOT tried it.
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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: CH HELL]
    #12968019 - 07/28/10 05:27 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

My LC is always hungary, num num num...


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: cloudsaregathering]
    #12968037 - 07/28/10 05:31 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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My LC is always hungary, num num num...


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool]
    #12968061 - 07/28/10 05:35 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Tell me about it, my "normal" job that the humans make me keep has been killing me, 6 days a week 12hr days, sucks...


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: cloudsaregathering]
    #13000889 - 08/04/10 10:54 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I guess it might also be possible to clone mycelium from a precolonized growbox into LC, isn't? Gonna get myself one in a week or so. I thought I could try this so that a sporeprint would not be neccesairy.

Are there results to which substrate an inoculation from LC works best? (Like peat moss/ rye/ rice/ dung/ pop corn)

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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984]
    #13001764 - 08/04/10 01:58 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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I guess it might also be possible to clone mycelium from a precolonized growbox into LC, isn't?



It could be but I think success would kinda be iffy.  If you really wanted to make an LC from a grow box I would put some of the mycellium to agar to ensure that the culture is clean.

Don't use a growbox they suck.  For the price you paid you could have done cakes. and still had money to :burnone:  along with an improved yield.

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Are there results to which substrate an inoculation from LC works best? (Like peat moss/ rye/ rice/ dung/ pop corn)



I would only inoculate an LC to rye and mayb popcorn if I was desperate in the things listed here.  Rice can be used with shitty results.  You would not want to inoculate peat mossor dung with an LC.

On another note I shot a test jar and the growth was explosive I dont have my cord to upload the pic atm later I can do it. 

I also did some cube jars for a side by side of gypsum vs. no gypsum.  They are not at my house when I goto look at them I can give y'all an update.


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool]
    #13013716 - 08/06/10 05:41 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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It could be but I think success would kinda be iffy.  If you really wanted to make an LC from a grow box I would put some of the mycellium to agar to ensure that the culture is clean.
Don't use a growbox they suck.  For the price you paid you could have done cakes. and still had money to :burnone:  along with an improved yield.




Oh, well I actually don't smoke weed. I just like to do mushrooms again, but I haven't for years (except those pan foes in the pic and they had nothing to give than 5-HTP lol) and I really don't want to seek myself a dealer or somebody. I just like to care for myself. Thing is I really like science and nature and I see shroom cultivation as a nice thing to do, but before I get into deep (which I have already, theoretically spoken) I just like to take the fast way to my own mushrooms

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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: FooMan]
    #13014045 - 08/06/10 06:51 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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On the other hand, LC's that have a lower percentage of sugars in them may produce less myc, but the myc is very vigorous and tears through grain. Genetics obviously is a factor when talking about MS, but I'm talking about observations I've made from isolates and clones.





FooMan, this got me to thinking about Agar's Grain LC Tek. Since you're actually growing the mycelium on grain in the first place and then soaking it up into a water only based LC then maybe the mycelium from this type of LC would actually perform better once it's inoculated to grain than a standard sugar based LC would.

So essentially would "MS(or clone)->Grain->WaterLC->Grain Spawn" perform better than "MS(or clone)->SugarLC->Grain Spawn"?

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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: kjb1891]
    #13014505 - 08/06/10 08:37 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

gonna try this, post the results when im done


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    #13014740 - 08/06/10 09:24 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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gonna try this, post the results when im done



Very nice and I would love to see the results.  This LC hits the grain and takes off pretty fast IMHO.


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool]
    #13074988 - 08/19/10 05:21 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

put your tek to the works and it works great way better then the old karo its self. i used hydrated lime instead of gymsum but its the same. i use wbs with lc's never have a problem. i even use brf cause i slurry then pour to wbs.

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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: shroomiedoobie]
    #13075005 - 08/19/10 05:25 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup:
I like this tek and think it works great.  I always get good results when it hits the grain.  Shit takes off like a mother fucker for me


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool]
    #13075489 - 08/19/10 07:15 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I just finally read this. Gypsum in LC = :einstein:

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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: Base Icks]
    #13104910 - 08/26/10 11:29 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

So can I just leave this out to sit, not in a dark area?


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: Run]
    #13105115 - 08/26/10 12:26 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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So can I just leave this out to sit, not in a dark area?




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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: k00laid]
    #13106474 - 08/26/10 05:56 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool]
    #13168392 - 09/08/10 11:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks again for the advice Kola!!!!


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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: ChaostoOrder]
    #13168497 - 09/08/10 11:55 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool]
    #13171271 - 09/09/10 04:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: truskool]
    #13247051 - 09/25/10 10:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I think I have been under feeding my lc's - going to try this way.
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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: jingus]
    #14999725 - 08/29/11 11:19 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

jingus,

Are those liberty caps in your sig?

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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: ZOMan]
    #15000407 - 08/30/11 05:05 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Really you couldn't :pm: him?

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Re: Truskool's explosive LC tek [Re: kjb1891]
    #28627698 - 01/19/24 07:52 PM (2 months, 6 days ago)

I’m keen to try Grain LC Tek as I don’t do Agar and a fully colonised grain jar would be a good indicator that there is no contams

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