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Reparations
    #12919287 - 07/19/10 12:12 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Have apparently begun:

http://www.ruraldevelopment.org/shirleydirector.html

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RDLN Graduate and Board Vice Chair Shirley Sherrod was appointed Georgia Director for Rural Development by Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack on July 25. Only days earlier, she learned that New Communities, a group she founded with her husband and other families (see below) has won a thirteen million dollar settlement in the minority farmers law suit Pigford vs Vilsack.

In announcing the appointment of Shirley and other new officials, Secretary Vilsack said that  "These individuals will be important advocates on behalf of rural communities in states throughout the country and help administer the valuable programs and services provided by the USDA that can enhance their economic success."




Right.  The story of the lawsuit is capsulized below:
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Over the years, USDA refused to provide loans for farming or irrigation and would not allow New Communities to restructure its loans.  Gradually, the group had to fight just to hold on to the land and finally had to wind down operations.

In 1985, as the land was being lost, Shirley entered the RDLN program. Previously, she had worked behind the scenes, but as she participated in RDLN, she began to realize her capacity as an up-front leader.  She invited the Federation of Southern Cooperatives to sponsor her in the RDLN program, earned her master's degree with a thesis that continues to provide a blueprint for her ongoing work with black farmers and others, helped orient all succeeding groups of RDLN Leaders, and became vice chair of RDLN's Board of Directors.  As you all know, Shirley is Georgia Lead for both the Federation of Southern Cooperatives/Land Assistance Fund and the Southern Rural Black Women's Initiative.  She has also chaired the board of the Farmers Legal Action Group, which has been active in the minority farmers law suit, along with the Federation and other groups.  FSC and SRBWI hosted RDLN's National Network Assembly in 2006, during which Network members had a chance to immerse themselves in Civil Rights history, with the guidance of Shirley and Charles (the first field director of SNCC), Albany singers and others, and to visit the economic development projects that have grown out of that Civil Rights history.

The cash award acknowledges racial discrimination on the part of the U.S. Department of Agriculture for the years 1981-85. (President Reagan abolished the USDA Office of Civil Rights when he became President in 1981.)  New Communities is due to receive approximately $13 million ($8,247,560 for loss of land and $4,241,602 for loss of income; plus $150,000 each to Shirley and Charles for pain and suffering).  There may also be an unspecified amount in forgiveness of debt. This is the largest award so far in the minority farmers law suit (Pigford vs Vilsack).

The attorney for New Communities has been Rose Sanders of Chestnut Sanders and Sanders, sister of National Rural Fellows graduate Harold Gaines and Advisor for RDLN Leaders Lillie Fields and Rose Hill.

No one can compensate those involved with New Communities for the difficult history they experienced.  The award covers only a few of the years in question.  Nevertheless, with these funds, New Communities will be able to start work again -- forty years later -- to realize the promise of their original dream, reconnect with the legacy of the Civil Rights movement, and meet the challenge of the needs and opportunities of the current historical moment.




It is essentially a tale of woe that her farm did not receive suitable milk form the government tit while whitey got too much.  But those are not the reparations I refer to.  Not even a little bit.  I refer to this:
http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2010/07/19/video-proof-the-naacp-awards-racism2010/#more-145962

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We are in possession of a video from in which Shirley Sherrod, USDA Georgia Director of Rural Development, speaks at the NAACP Freedom Fund dinner in Georgia. In her meandering speech to what appears to be an all-black audience, this federally appointed executive bureaucrat lays out in stark detail, that her federal duties are managed through the prism of race and class distinctions.

In the first video, Sherrod describes how she racially discriminates against a white farmer. She describes how she is torn over how much she will choose to help him. And, she admits that she doesn’t do everything she can for him, because he is white. Eventually, her basic humanity informs that this white man is poor and needs help. But she decides that he should get help from “one of his own kind”. She refers him to a white lawyer.

Sherrod’s racist tale is received by the NAACP audience with nodding approval and murmurs of recognition and agreement. Hardly the behavior of the group now holding itself up as the supreme judge of another groups’ racial tolerance.





Video at the link.  You would think that someone who supposedly was a victim of racist government policies would do everything in her power to avoid racist government policies once she herself was in power.  But that isn't what she is about.  No, the giant check wasn't enough.  She wants to stick it to whitey.  Revenge. 

Meet the new boss.  Same as the old boss.  I hope the white farmer sues the living shit out of her.


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Re: Reparations [Re: zappaisgod]
    #12919375 - 07/19/10 12:31 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

With the money you could win suing you could start that farm you talked about. I suggest growing hemp.:thumbup:


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Re: Reparations [Re: Icelander]
    #12919445 - 07/19/10 12:48 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I wanna get one of those farms where they pay you not to grow things.


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Re: Reparations [Re: zappaisgod]
    #12919822 - 07/19/10 02:20 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You so smart guy what!:thumbup:


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Re: Reparations [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #12923272 - 07/20/10 08:08 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Seems that she resigned today, after the video of her speech was made public.  Watching the video of her, it was really sad to hear the audience, part of an NAACP function, snickering as she described how she didn't help a farmer because of his skin color.


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Re: Reparations [Re: Seuss]
    #12923299 - 07/20/10 08:16 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Sad but no surprise.  It doesn't take a genius to recognize that there is a huge percentage of "Colored People" who have long harbored a desire to "Stick it to Whitey".  Nor is it particularly difficult to discern that Obama has a great giant well of it White resentment himself, though it is certainly in no way due to any hardship that privileged, pampered cunt has personally endured.

Now maybe we can get the press to cover Holder's dereliction of duty in refusing to prosecute the New Black Panthers in their voter intimidation case that had all but been won.  Nah.

Later I will post something about Journolist, which Andrew Breitbart is in the process of completely and utterly exploding.


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Re: Reparations [Re: zappaisgod]
    #12925243 - 07/20/10 03:22 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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It doesn't take a genius to recognize that there is a huge percentage of "Colored People" who have long harbored a desire to "Stick it to Whitey"




well not giving a shit about stolen wages and discrimination is a form of sticking it blacky anyway. see that's why nobody white give a fuck when he's called cracker, they are on the winning side of the bullshit and can't acknowledge any point to the other side in fear of losing something. sure naacp is full of shit, like most racial/ethnic lobbies.

and i agree about the new black panther crap.

EDIT: by the way, i don't know about her story, is she proud of it? wouldn't it be some karma bullshit? as in discrimination plant the seed of reverse discrimination?

Edited by communeart (07/20/10 03:56 PM)

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Re: Reparations [Re: zappaisgod]
    #12925506 - 07/20/10 04:09 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Breitbart, apparently took part of the speech out of context,http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/07/usda_appointee_forced_to_resign_after_discussing_r.php , Sherrod was explaining how she had to overcome her prejudice, the farmers wife in the story says Sherrod helped keep thier farm out of bankrupcy. http://www.ajc.com/news/farmers-wife-says-fired-574027.html

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Re: Reparations [Re: communeart]
    #12925963 - 07/20/10 05:20 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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communeart said:
well not giving a shit about stolen wages and discrimination is a form of sticking it blacky anyway.




hahaha... are you aware that a black man is the president of the US and
how exactly does this stolen wage stuff work

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EDIT: by the way, i don't know about her story, is she proud of it? wouldn't it be some karma bullshit? as in discrimination plant the seed of reverse discrimination?





there's no such critter as reverse discrimination

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Re: Reparations [Re: falcon]
    #12925980 - 07/20/10 05:24 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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falcon said:
Breitbart, apparently took part of the speech out of context

http://www.ajc.com/news/farmers-wife-says-fired-574027.html




taken out of context or not, it's a blatant display of racism because she
did not work equally for whites as she did for minorities, this was her own
admission, her solution was to push him off on a "'white lawyer' because
maybe one of his own would take care of him"

so the fact of the matter is that she didnt help them save the farm, the
lawyer did, she simply gave a referral to 'one of his own kind'

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Re: Reparations [Re: falcon]
    #12926161 - 07/20/10 05:56 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Breitbart didn't take anything out of context, that's all the tape he had.  In fact, Breitbart's point wasn't about Sharrod at all, it was about the NAACP, whose members can be heard approvingly accepting her tale of "Fucking Whitey".  They didn't know this happened 20+ years ago.  And neither do I.

MY point was about this bitch and Fucking Whitey while sucking from Whitey's tit.  And I don't give two shits about what she says to defend herself.  She was playing the race game to a crowd that only ever PLAYS THE RACE GAME and she liked it.  Another race baiting cunt trying to capitalize by pandering to the hatred of other racist punks.


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Re: Reparations [Re: communeart]
    #12929435 - 07/21/10 10:47 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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communeart said:EDIT: by the way, i don't know about her story, is she proud of it? wouldn't it be some karma bullshit? as in discrimination plant the seed of reverse discrimination?




Here's the thing.

If you want to go back and forth on this, tit-for-tat, well..  that just means that at no point should white people have ever freed the slaves and decided to try to move past racism.  what you're saying is, basically, so long as there's more than one skin color on this earth we must always, constantly, eternally, be fighting with each other.

If you want to not be discriminated against, you first should not discriminate against others.  End of story.  I've met, and I'm sure nothing will change in the future, far far more racist and prejudiced black people than white people.


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Re: Reparations [Re: zappaisgod]
    #12929767 - 07/21/10 11:55 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Watch the whole clip starting around 16-17 minutes:


This whole controversy is taken way out of context. She's talking about how she overcame her racism and, in her words, learned that it was about "rich versus poor." She's trying to defend this white farmer by the end of the clip!
21:01: "Working with him made me see it's about those who have versus those who have not. They could be black they could be white they could be Hispanic. And it made me realise then that I needed to work to help poor people."

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They didn't know this happened 20+ years ago.  And neither do I.



Of course they did! She specifically says that it was when she first started when she was much younger.

Breitbart's a real asshat for twisting this lady's words.


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Re: Reparations [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
    #12930049 - 07/21/10 12:47 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Breitbart didn't twist anybody's words.  Number one, that was all the tape he had.  Number 2 he wasn't going after her, he was going after the NAACP audience, which included the President, Ben Jealous, for their approval.  Let me repeat that.  The President of the NAACP was there.  He heard the entire speech.  This is the statement of the NAACP:
http://biggovernment.com/publius/2010/07/20/naacp-statement-on-resignation-of-shirley-sherrod/

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“Since our founding in 1909, the NAACP has been a multi-racial, multi-faith organization that– while generally rooted in African American communities– fights to end racial discrimination against all Americans.

We concur with US Agriculture Secretary Vilsack in accepting the resignation of Shirley Sherrod for her remarks at a local NAACP Freedom Fund banquet.

Racism is about the abuse of power. Sherrod had it in her position at USDA. According to her remarks, she mistreated a white farmer in need of assistance because of his race.

We are appalled by her actions, just as we are with abuses of power against farmers of color and female farmers.

Her actions were shameful. While she went on to explain in the story that she ultimately realized her mistake, as well as the common predicament of working people of all races, she gave no indication she had attempted to right the wrong she had done to this man.

The reaction from many in the audience is disturbing. We will be looking into the behavior of NAACP representatives at this local event and take any appropriate action.

We thank those who brought this to our national office’s attention, as there are hundreds of local fundraising dinners each year.

Sherrod’s behavior is even more intolerable in light of the US Department of Agriculture’s well documented history of denying opportunities to African American, Latino, Asian American, and Native American farmers, as well as female farmers of all races. Currently, justice for many of these farmers is being held up by Congress. We would hope all who share our outrage at Sherrod’s statements would join us in pushing for these cases to be remedied.

The NAACP will continue to advance the ideals of America and fight for freedom, justice and fairness for all Americans.”





Do you understand the point yet?  Breitbart embarrassed the NAACP by exposing the racism of its members, including its President.  They had nothing to say about this woman's remarks at the time and even later.  Not until Breitbart aired the tape.  And even worse, to cover their own slimy asses, they jumped all over Sherrod.  Total.  Fucking.  Phonies.

And yeah, fuck her.  I don't believe for one second her welfare (Farm Aid) sucking ass has gotten over her "Fuck Whitey" attitude.  You can if you want to but I don't.


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Re: Reparations [Re: zappaisgod]
    #12930270 - 07/21/10 01:24 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Breitbart didn't twist anybody's words.  Number one, that was all the tape he had.  Number 2 he wasn't going after her, he was going after the NAACP audience



What do you mean that was all the tape he had? The full version was available at the time of his post, he just chose to post selective two minute clips framing Sherrod as a racist. Absolutely disgusting, pissant reporting on his part. Even if that were true and he did come across the full tape which clearly shows Sherrod renouncing the racism of her youth wouldn't that merit a retraction?

As for your second point, hell yeah he was going after her as well as the NAACP audience. He calls her a racist several times throughout the article and then completely bastardises her statements. At no point in his article does he mention that this event happened over 20 years ago in her youth- something which is abundantly clear to anyone who watched the whole video. As for her racist action, if you listened, she rectified it by actually going above and beyond, preventing the white farmer from getting foreclosed. The point of the story is how she overcame her own racism!

There is no mention of this anywhere in that disingenuous cunt's article. 

The fact of the matter is that Breitbart dishonestly represented Sherrod's statements to make the NAACP look guilty by association. Pathetic.

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I don't believe for one second her welfare (Farm Aid) sucking ass has gotten over her "Fuck Whitey" attitude.  You can if you want to but I don't.



You can base your conclusions on an imaginary white man's reverse racist persecution complex but I'll stick with what she actually fucking said.

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Re: Reparations [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
    #12930337 - 07/21/10 01:37 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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This whole controversy is taken way out of context. She's talking about how she overcame her racism and, in her words, learned that it was about "rich versus poor." She's trying to defend this white farmer by the end of the clip!




how exactly is not helping him but instead shuffling him off to a white attorney because he's 'one of their kind' overcoming racism

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Re: Reparations [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
    #12930382 - 07/21/10 01:46 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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The full version was available at the time of his post, he just chose to post selective two minute clips framing Sherrod as a racist.




Available from whom? The NAACP seemed to have some difficulty locating the whole thing.

Breitbart didn't film the event. Someone sent him that section of tape, which he then trumpeted to the blogosphere as an indictment not of Sherrod, but of the NAACP members applauding her self-confessed racism. A number of conservative bloggers who watched it thought something was a little off (The Anchoress, for one), and reserved judgment till they had had a chance to see the whole thing. Even Glenn Beck was on Sherrod's side.

But it took almost two days before the entire clip surfaced. Neither the White House nor the NAACP thought it worthwhile to wait for the whole tape, though - they jumped all over Sherrod. Ironically enough, Ben Jealous - the NAACP president who was slamming Sherrod the hardest - was an audience member of that speech. Was he even listening to what she said? Apparently not.





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    #12930417 - 07/21/10 01:54 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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This whole controversy is taken way out of context. She's talking about how she overcame her racism and, in her words, learned that it was about "rich versus poor." She's trying to defend this white farmer by the end of the clip!




how exactly is not helping him but instead shuffling him off to a white attorney because he's 'one of their kind' overcoming racism



Watch the entire video. It's clear you have not.

She busted her ass to help the farmer get his bankruptcy and keep the farm.


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    #12930493 - 07/21/10 02:16 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Breitbart didn't twist anybody's words.  Number one, that was all the tape he had.  Number 2 he wasn't going after her, he was going after the NAACP audience



What do you mean that was all the tape he had? The full version was available at the time of his post, he just chose to post selective two minute clips framing Sherrod as a racist. Absolutely disgusting, pissant reporting on his part. Even if that were true and he did come across the full tape which clearly shows Sherrod renouncing the racism of her youth wouldn't that merit a retraction?




ORLY?  He says he posted all the tape he had.  The tape was available to who?  And what of Jealous?  He was fucking there.  I repeat, Breitbart's point was not about the racism of the woman.  BREITBART'S POINT WAS NOT ABOUT THE RACISM OF THE WOMAN.  It was about the racism of the crowd, who can clearly be heard going "uh-huh" when the woman says the white farmer was trying to prove himself superior to her, among other things.
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As for your second point, hell yeah he was going after her as well as the NAACP audience. He calls her a racist several times throughout the article and then completely bastardises her statements. At no point in his article does he mention that this event happened over 20 years ago in her youth- something which is abundantly clear to anyone who watched the whole video. As for her racist action, if you listened, she rectified it by actually going above and beyond, preventing the white farmer from getting foreclosed. The point of the story is how she overcame her own racism!




That may be her point.  It isn't mine.  And she certainly was a racist, at the very least, and I think she continues to be a racist, especially in light of the fact that she says, after 20 years, that the cracker was trying to establish his superiority because she was black, something she still believes to this day.  Maybe he was just fucking nervous.  But not to her.  To her she still believes that he was trying to establish his superiority because she was black.
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There is no mention of this anywhere in that disingenuous cunt's article.

The fact of the matter is that Breitbart dishonestly represented Sherrod's statements to make the NAACP look guilty by association. Pathetic.




No.  The NAACP is STILL guilty, not by association but by their reactions, especially including Jealous.  And what of their own reaction to the tape.  JEALOUS WAS THERE HIMSELF!  How come he had nothing to say about coming to her defense?  Instead HE called her a racist bitch.  You really need to stop spinning yourself into the ground
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I don't believe for one second her welfare (Farm Aid) sucking ass has gotten over her "Fuck Whitey" attitude.  You can if you want to but I don't.



You can base your conclusions on an imaginary white man's reverse racist persecution complex but I'll stick with what she actually fucking said.




What she actually said is that she was a racist but isn't anymore.  She also supplied racist bilge that she currently believes, i.e. that the guy was trying to establish his superiority because she was black.  I find it hard to believe she got less racist personally over time.  Very hard.


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    #12930497 - 07/21/10 02:18 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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This whole controversy is taken way out of context. She's talking about how she overcame her racism and, in her words, learned that it was about "rich versus poor." She's trying to defend this white farmer by the end of the clip!




how exactly is not helping him but instead shuffling him off to a white attorney because he's 'one of their kind' overcoming racism



Watch the entire video. It's clear you have not.

She busted her ass to help the farmer get his bankruptcy and keep the farm.



Busted her ass to get somebody else to pay for his farm welfare?  You have a pretty fucked up idea about what busting ass entails.  Also that you believe every self aggrandizing tale everybody tells you about how hard they worked to overcome their own weakness 20 years ago.  Did you know that 20 years ago I saved the whole world?  It's true.  I did it with my cock even though I wanted to save it for Bo Derek.

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