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Vagabondsun
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Re: Two field mushrooms and one lawn mushroom to ID [Re: Twiztidsage]
#12907134 - 07/16/10 01:11 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey wow, the pictures work again. Hooray for shroomery.
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caphillkid
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Re: Two field mushrooms and one lawn mushroom to ID [Re: Vagabondsun]
#12907155 - 07/16/10 01:14 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Vagabondsun said:
The pictures I put up show everything they need to
ROFL !!! Well shit then you should have no problem IDing them yourself then.
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Vagabondsun
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Re: Two field mushrooms and one lawn mushroom to ID [Re: caphillkid]
#12907175 - 07/16/10 01:16 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Come on, I need help. I just started doing this stuff. I am just pointing out that I took pictures of every possible angle of about 20 mushrooms. I have cap photos, stem photos, white spore print, gill photos, gill to stem, it is all there. Please don't be a jerk, I genuinely thought that those pictures would suffice. My apologies sir.
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Twiztidsage
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Re: Two field mushrooms and one lawn mushroom to ID [Re: caphillkid]
#12907178 - 07/16/10 01:17 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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They do suffice. They are Stropharia sp.
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caphillkid
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Re: Two field mushrooms and one lawn mushroom to ID [Re: Twiztidsage]
#12907179 - 07/16/10 01:17 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Twiztidsage said:
And I don't think the other ones are M. oreades, they just don't look right to me.
Aw, I'm disappointed. The last two pics are clearly Marasmius, the ones above are probably too unless the gill attachment is running down the stem or closely attached. I can't tell from the pics.
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Vagabondsun
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Re: Two field mushrooms and one lawn mushroom to ID [Re: caphillkid]
#12907221 - 07/16/10 01:23 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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You are right about the first one being Leratiomyces percevalii, compare my pictures to this picture. http://www.mushroomexpert.com/images/kuo3/leratiomyces_percevalii_01.jpg
All the stats match too.
I also think the last one is probably a Marasmius also. The gills are pretty unique to Marasmius.
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Twiztidsage
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Re: Two field mushrooms and one lawn mushroom to ID [Re: caphillkid]
#12907231 - 07/16/10 01:25 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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caphillkid said:
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Twiztidsage said:
And I don't think the other ones are M. oreades, they just don't look right to me.
Aw, I'm disappointed. The last two pics are clearly Marasmius, the ones above are probably too unless the gill attachment is running down the stem or closely attached. I can't tell from the pics.
My bad, I was looking at the second batch of pics. Your disappointment should now leave you, I agree that the last two are Marasmius.
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Vagabondsun
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Re: Two field mushrooms and one lawn mushroom to ID [Re: Twiztidsage]
#12907292 - 07/16/10 01:34 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Third mushroom has properly been IDed as the Fairy Ring Mushroom. First mushroom is possibly a Leratiomyces percevalii or some other Stropharia sp. Second is still up for grabs. I have to say, I was really hoping I found some more of those meadow mushrooms. They were so tasty.
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Vagabondsun
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Re: Two field mushrooms and one lawn mushroom to ID [Re: Vagabondsun]
#12907336 - 07/16/10 01:42 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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"Albino Form
Albino forms of Stropharia rugosoannulata are apparently not uncommon (see Phillips, 1991/2005). The collection above was made in woodchips, in Illinois. Aside from the white colors, other differences from the typical form included a strong creosote-like odor and a yellow (rather than olive) KOH reaction. Microscopic features were identical to those of the typical pigmented form."
That might explain why the first mushrooms are difficult to ID.
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Twiztidsage
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Re: Two field mushrooms and one lawn mushroom to ID [Re: Vagabondsun]
#12907354 - 07/16/10 01:45 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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It is not an albino S. rugusoannulata.
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caphillkid
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Re: Two field mushrooms and one lawn mushroom to ID [Re: Twiztidsage]
#12907355 - 07/16/10 01:46 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Twiztidsage
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Re: Two field mushrooms and one lawn mushroom to ID [Re: caphillkid]
#12907374 - 07/16/10 01:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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caphillkid said: http://www.mushroomexpert.com/stropharia_coronilla.html
or similar to it
Sounds good. I wonder where the key goes wrong, I got stopped at bracket 11.
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Vagabondsun
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Re: Two field mushrooms and one lawn mushroom to ID [Re: caphillkid]
#12907381 - 07/16/10 01:50 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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I know you don't think this is it sage, but look at the resemblance --> http://www.rogersmushrooms.com/gallery/DisplayBlock~bid~6796.asp
Everything matches except I don't have a microscope to look at the spores and it says Michigan and California.
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caphillkid
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Re: Two field mushrooms and one lawn mushroom to ID [Re: Twiztidsage]
#12907388 - 07/16/10 01:51 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Twiztidsage said:
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caphillkid said: http://www.mushroomexpert.com/stropharia_coronilla.html
or similar to it
Sounds good. I wonder where the key goes wrong, I got stopped at bracket 11.
I picked it due to the description of the unique annulus. Just a guess. Just when I think I'm getting somewhere with a key, the same thing happens to me everytime. In fact, I don't think I've even had success with any of the keys except the ones specific to the PNW.
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Vagabondsun
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Re: Two field mushrooms and one lawn mushroom to ID [Re: caphillkid]
#12907395 - 07/16/10 01:53 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Stropharia coronilla is a pretty solid match.
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Twiztidsage
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Re: Two field mushrooms and one lawn mushroom to ID [Re: Twiztidsage]
#12907396 - 07/16/10 01:53 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ah, bracket five. Size.
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Vagabondsun
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Re: Two field mushrooms and one lawn mushroom to ID [Re: Twiztidsage]
#12907415 - 07/16/10 01:56 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Inedible... there goes dinner.
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