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 Prisoner#1
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Numinosum said:
the drug charges are still on my background check clear as day. I may as well have been convicted of them.
you can petition to have the record expunged
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 Adamist
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Charles Shaw does some good stuff... 
The way this entire broken system operates should without a doubt be thrown into question..
We as a society need to educate ourselves on alternative ways of dealing with these problems.
There are so many symptoms of dysfunction and corruption- the bureaucratic industrial complex is obviously out of control.
We may not live in a genuine police state yet, but it's getting worse.. The militarization of local police forces nationwide has created a monster.
"The drug problem" is a convenient excuse for them to achieve increasing control over our lives..
Whether it's mandatory drug testing, increasing their budgets across the board, random traffic stops, profiling, banning anonymous prepaid phones, the list goes on...
All drugs should be legalized and regulated, at the very least under strict controls..
But I honestly can't see that happening in the United States, where we can't even get our health care system right. 
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Adamist
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 Re: Unheard Voices [Re: Adamist]
#12873902 - 07/09/10 04:00 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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If you doubt that we're turning into a police state, you should read the story of this guy, who was refused entry into the U.S. because he used LSD in the past.
Apparently the Patriot Act can be used to bar entry to "known drug users", among other things (check out the "Ideological exclusion provision"). 
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Re: Unheard Voices [Re: Adamist]
#12874231 - 07/09/10 05:12 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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i used to think we weren't a police state until i lived in a country that isn't. very eye opening experience, and to me it seems that we're relinquishing more control of our lives to the government every year.
i take full responsibility for the behavior that led up to my conviction, and i did my time and paid my debt to society. but i also find it outrageous that our society makes it so difficult for anyone to bounce back from a drug conviction. a felon's employment options are extremely limited unless they are fortunate enough to know a trade or have already earned a degree, and even then it's hit or miss depending on the employer. up until recently you couldn't even get any sort of federal aid for school, including loans, for drug convictions. that applied only to drug convictions i might add. thieves, sex offenders and rapists have no trouble getting into the fafsa program at all. most (if not all) major property management companies refuse to lease to felons regardless of the circumstances surrounding their conviction i.e. their age at the time of the arrest. it just doesn't seem right that i can't get an apartment today over something really stupid i did when i was a teenager.
so as it stands now, with a drug conviction on your record you can't work, school is a complete fantasy unless you're wealthy, and you can't live anywhere unless you buy property or lease from an individual. i straight up lied on my leasing apps before 9/11 because i knew they wouldn't check. that and i needed a place to live. after 9/11 i couldn't renew with a company i leased with for nearly 3 years without any trouble whatsoever, excellent credit and steady work history. in this sense i feel that the war on drugs victimizes people and often forces them back into the criminal lifestyle that led them to being convicted in the first place, especially in the case of offenders who come from poverty. in no way does society benefit from putting so many people at such a crushing disadvantage for the remainder of their lives.
i hope this film reaches a lot of people.
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millzy
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Re: Unheard Voices [Re: millzy]
#12874276 - 07/09/10 05:21 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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btw, i'd also like to add that i think a good solution to this issue would be for states to pass laws prohibiting employers and leasing agencies from discriminating against drug offenders if their conviction is a misdemeanor or over 5 years old in the case of felonies. fafsa has already been fixed thankfully.
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Unheard Voices [Re: Adamist]
#12874361 - 07/09/10 05:37 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Adamist said:
If you doubt that we're turning into a police state, you should read the story of this guy, who was refused entry into the U.S. because he used LSD in the past.
serves his ass right, I'm barred from canada because they consider me a danger to their society
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Adamist
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It's fucking unbelievable... they are grasping at straws at this point. Googling someone who's trying to enter the country?
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madnsneaky
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Re: Unheard Voices [Re: Adamist]
#12875415 - 07/09/10 09:53 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Is this project only for people from the states?
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luckytriple6
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Re: Unheard Voices [Re: Adamist]
#12881023 - 07/11/10 02:11 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Adamist said:
If you doubt that we're turning into a police state, you should read the story of this guy, who was refused entry into the U.S. because he used LSD in the past.
Apparently the Patriot Act can be used to bar entry to "known drug users", among other things (check out the "Ideological exclusion provision").
Stories like that make me wish I was dead rather than a citizen of the police states of america. Someday maybe.... if I'm lucky I'll have enough money to leave....
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Re: Unheard Voices [Re: Adamist]
#12881849 - 07/11/10 09:39 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Adamist said:
If you doubt that we're turning into a police state, you should read the story of this guy, who was refused entry into the U.S. because he used LSD in the past.
Apparently the Patriot Act can be used to bar entry to "known drug users", among other things (check out the "Ideological exclusion provision").
his daughter's name is soma 
nice dude, nice
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Senor_Doobie
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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
...the Unheard Voices documentary project is building an archive of testimonies on the cultural holocaust that has been the War on Drugs.
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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
We don't live in a police state. Hyperbole FTL.
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Make sure that no one is escaping from Desolation Row
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StevenMichael
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Don't shoot the messenger, Doobie. Being all pseudo-political-activist about shit looks cool to the hipster bitches
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Shroomism
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I sent an email and told part of my story... got an email back like an hour later and seems they are interested so we'll see.
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kintos
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i called the director, said he has gotten a bunch of good stories from the shroomery, im gonna meet with him thursday. I might end up working on the project in some capacity.
he said it was going to be a creative commons project so other people can use the content in other documentaries, essays ect. im kinda hyped about this finally a documentary i care about.
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Shroomism
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Re: Unheard Voices [Re: kintos]
#12887513 - 07/12/10 01:14 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah I just got off the phone with him. I'm going to meet with him sometime in the next couple weeks.
I fully support this venture.. let's make it happen like serious. !
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count me in
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kintos
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Looks like ill be helping out with some of the bay area shoots and some editing. Hopefully ill be meeting some fellow shroomery members.
although it seems like charles shaw is/should be a memeber of this site, he would fit right in, pretty chill/ laid back guy.
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Akira
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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:
Numinosum said:
the drug charges are still on my background check clear as day. I may as well have been convicted of them.
you can petition to have the record expunged
When I was a minor (17) I was arrested for small cocaine possession. Anyways I was never convicted and my record was expunged.
However years later at the age of 24 I signed up for the US Marine Corp. Everything went accordingly. They got all my information, passed all the tests with flying colors, and at the last moment before getting my deployment date I was told that I wasnt going to be able to join because of my juvenile record.
I then tried the US Army and US Air Force, i Was declined for a minor drug charge when i was a minor which had been expunged.
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We know that God is good, and so are hamburgers and hot dogs. We know that hamburgers and hot dogs definitely do exist, so then by deduction of logic God too must also exist. Hamburgers + Hot dogs = God.... Duh
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millzy
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Re: Unheard Voices [Re: Akira]
#12915240 - 07/18/10 11:26 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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i think i heard a couple of years back that they're overlooking felony drug convictions now with people trying to enlist.
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