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Quote: Psychoslut said: if you take the oil filter off you are at least going to loose a quart of oil
Older vehicles most frequently had filters that held a full quart. Many newer ones hold less.
Quote: , more if the car isnt completely cool and sitting.
The amount of oil won't vary because it's hot, or if anything it will lose less as heat expands. Also, I make it a practice (when I did change my own oil) to never change the oil of a standing car.
Quote: besides that changing the filter without changing the oil is just dumb.
Which is why I said "Why anyone would do so is the better question."
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argue all you want man, im sure someone will do it and then come respond here.
I would go out to the car RIGHT NOW and remove the oil filter on video to prove my case, but proving you wrong is not worth opening a new qt of oil.
again... im sure people actually changing their oil can come respond regarding it. for anyone that wants to experiment, take your filter off before you drain your oil and don't be surprised if it dribbles down the engine in fat gobs.
I can seriously say ive poured more 5gal buckets worth of oil into big rigs than anyone else here, and probably done more oil changes on everything from honda accords to ford navigators and I have yet to run into a vehicle that doesn't spill oil when you remove the filter first.
this is a seriously retarded thing to argue about.
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-------------------- “In politics, few talents are as richly rewarded as the ability to convince parasites that they are victims. Welfare states on both sides of the Atlantic have discovered that largesse to losers does not reduce their hostility to society, but only increases it. Far from producing gratitude, generosity is seen as an admission of guilt, and the reparations as inadequate compensation for injustices – leading to worsening behavior by the recipients. Thomas Sowell
I would never pay more than $15 for an oil change. There are always coupons,specials, etc going on. The one time I was going to change my oil myself (synthetic) the total with the oil filter came to around $25 or $30 dollars... I thought to myself as I was walking out that it was BS, walked right back in and returned everything. Took my car in to the shop and got it done for $20. Easier, cheaper, quicker.
I started changing my own oil a couple years ago, after spending maybe $5.00 for a low profile oil change bucket. I already had leather gloves to use as the filter wrench, dont need the wrench.
I did spend about $7.00 for a grease gun for the front end fittings.
I spend $10.50 for a 5 guart container of quality 5-30w Quaker oil and around $3.00 for the Fram filter.
And then just pour the old in back into the 5 quart container and recycle.
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