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koppie
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Kratom sucks.
#12667395 - 06/01/10 04:00 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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So here I sit. Depressed and with a headache. Do people actually enjoy this feeling or is it just me that hates kratom? Shame, because I don't really mind the taste.
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dashel
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Re: Kratom sucks. [Re: koppie]
#12667398 - 06/01/10 04:01 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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im sorry to hear that
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Devlish2
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Re: Kratom sucks. [Re: dashel]
#12667414 - 06/01/10 04:04 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pretty sure it works better for some people than others. I've gotten quite the euphoria from it before but at that dose you can;'t really get up for too long or risk the chance of having a bitter kratom purge. Haven't had some in a long time myself but I loved it's effects, especially the waking dream closed eye visuals.
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stefan
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Re: Kratom sucks. [Re: koppie]
#12667433 - 06/01/10 04:11 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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the key with kratom is to dose low.
I use it now and then and find myself disappointed when I dose too high. over 4 grams of powder is resulting in a borring nodding high.
Today I used 3,7g (on empty stomach, ingested pizza after an hour or so) and have nice feelings from it the whole evening!
(super green indo kratom)
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danielx
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Re: Kratom sucks. [Re: koppie]
#12667436 - 06/01/10 04:12 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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kratoms pretty euphoric for me, I just get shitty hangovers the next day.
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owls
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Re: Kratom sucks. [Re: stefan]
#12667450 - 06/01/10 04:15 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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it doesn't sound worth paying money to try to me
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Epyx
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Re: Kratom sucks. [Re: danielx]
#12667453 - 06/01/10 04:16 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ya dosage is the key with Kratom. I find it very comparable to poppy seed/pod tea. It isn't quite as long lasting and tends not to have as much of a nod off on the come down. It cycles between waves of euphoria and adrenaline rush (at least for me).
I typically dose 10g 1x per week which has replaced a 1x per week/ever two weeks pod/seed and there is definitely cross tolerance. I have no doubt that after 4 or 5 weeks of neither 10g would give me some nausea.
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danielx
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Re: Kratom sucks. [Re: owls]
#12667454 - 06/01/10 04:16 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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its like < 25 cents for a dose.
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stefan
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Re: Kratom sucks. [Re: owls]
#12667468 - 06/01/10 04:19 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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a couple of rules for optimal enjoyment (works for me)
1. don't redose 2. don't dose too high, or you'll ruin your high 3. even though a little alcohol intensifies the feelings, it'll make you feel less good the next day
when following this the next day is fine, although in some cases I'm a little grumpy the next day and a flattened affect is also an option. But when used in moderation it shouldn't be a problem
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Devlish2
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Re: Kratom sucks. [Re: stefan]
#12667484 - 06/01/10 04:23 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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I only got great euphoria when I ate a large amounts... and then swished down spoon fulls every 10 mins or so afterwords to get to the point I wanted.
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LicHmicrO
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Re: Kratom sucks. [Re: Devlish2]
#12667512 - 06/01/10 04:28 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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kratom is nice when i want to crawl into bed, watch a movie and smoke a joint
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Dango_Bill
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Back when I had zero opiate tolerance, kratom was awesome. My usual dose without tolerance was 7-14 grams of premium red vein leaf. I didn't make a tea out of it - I used to powder it in a coffee grinder and mix it with vanilla ice cream, then eat that.
I've got some opiate tolerance now - I usually do a high enough dose of opiates to nod, two or three times a month, and that takes me either 12mg hydromorphone intranasal, or 35mg oxycodone intranasal. I tried a 20 gram dose of kratom about six weeks ago, and it did nothing for me except give me a headache.
so yeah... kratom is only worthwhile if you don't have any (or a very low) tolerance to opiates. If snorting 10mg of hydrocodone doesn't get you off, then you're probably too tolerant to get much out of kratom.
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