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Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain
    #12579329 - 05/17/10 02:16 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I have read that flouride causes calcification of the pineal gland. Does anyone here have knowledge on this subject or of any related studies that have been conducted?

What's your position on flouride in drinking water?

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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: Without_Ego]
    #12579341 - 05/17/10 02:18 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

That the topic belongs in the Conspiracy Forum. :shrug:


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: Kada]
    #12579437 - 05/17/10 02:33 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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That the topic belongs in the Conspiracy Forum. :shrug:



I hate this attitude.

Public water fluoridation is fact but people think it's all a crazy fucking conspiracy.


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: Monstershrooms]
    #12579481 - 05/17/10 02:39 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, sadly it sounds like too much of a crazy conspiracy for people to get interested enough to actually look into it.

It is actually happening though.


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: highdroponics]
    #12579492 - 05/17/10 02:41 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

No one is denying fluoridation happens. That's fact.

All of the unsubstantiated panic mongering about its supposed effects, THAT is the tinfoil hat stuff.


EDIT: and to the limited extent that I care about fluoridation, I am for it. I am the son of a physician, and when we lived in places WITHOUT fluoridated water, I took fluoride pills. I'm not sure if it's a result, but I've never had a cavity. As far as "calcified pineal gland" or whatever, I've got no health problems I'm aware of.


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Edited by Kid_Orgo (05/17/10 07:55 PM)

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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: highdroponics]
    #12579499 - 05/17/10 02:41 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Never drink Tea, as it has flouride in....

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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #12579518 - 05/17/10 02:44 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Connecting it to government activity is the conspiracy part.


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: Monstershrooms]
    #12579571 - 05/17/10 02:53 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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Kada said:
That the topic belongs in the Conspiracy Forum. :shrug:



I hate this attitude.

Public water fluoridation is fact but people think it's all a crazy fucking conspiracy.



I never said it was  :tinfoil:

I just said it was a conspiracy.


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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #12579633 - 05/17/10 03:03 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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No one is denying fluoridation happens. That's fact.

All of the unsubstantiated panic mongering about it's supposed effects, THAT is the tinfoil hat stuff.




Exactly.

Those of you who think that the fluoride in the water supply is harmful should just move to Africa


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: Without_Ego]
    #12579655 - 05/17/10 03:07 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I drink well water, so I aint too worried.






Psshhttt, who am I kidding, I wouldn't be worried about it anyways.


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: niteowl]
    #12579663 - 05/17/10 03:07 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

maybe mushrooms and lsd re-squishifies the pineal gland, just have a healthy balance


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: niteowl]
    #12579671 - 05/17/10 03:09 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

Kid_Orgo said:
No one is denying fluoridation happens. That's fact.

All of the unsubstantiated panic mongering about it's supposed effects, THAT is the tinfoil hat stuff.




Exactly.

Those of you who think that the fluoride in the water supply is harmful should just move to Africa




or europe, where they were all like "no, we won't put drugs in water"


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: truekimbo2]
    #12579775 - 05/17/10 03:26 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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truekimbo2 said:
Quote:

niteowl said:
Quote:

Kid_Orgo said:
No one is denying fluoridation happens. That's fact.

All of the unsubstantiated panic mongering about it's supposed effects, THAT is the tinfoil hat stuff.




Exactly.

Those of you who think that the fluoride in the water supply is harmful should just move to Africa




or europe, where they were all like "no, we won't put drugs in water"





But they drank alot of tea...


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: truekimbo2]
    #12579786 - 05/17/10 03:27 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

There's going to be drugs in the water system no matter what because they can't filter out the drugs that people flush down the toilet like tylenol and stuff.

And fluoride occurs naturally however it's at a much lower level.


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: truekimbo2]
    #12579792 - 05/17/10 03:28 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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truekimbo2 said:
Quote:

niteowl said:
Quote:

Kid_Orgo said:
No one is denying fluoridation happens. That's fact.

All of the unsubstantiated panic mongering about it's supposed effects, THAT is the tinfoil hat stuff.




Exactly.

Those of you who think that the fluoride in the water supply is harmful should just move to Africa




or europe, where they were all like "no, we won't put drugs in water"




Plenty of places in the US dont fluoridate either.  My municipal water does not have added fluoride.  It the local communities decision.

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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: Kada]
    #12579809 - 05/17/10 03:31 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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Kada said:
That the topic belongs in the Conspiracy Forum. :shrug:




To avoid discussing it?

It is already well known that sodium fluoride, even in low doses, builds in brain tissue and impairs several functions of the organism, including loss of IQ.

The OP is not talking about government conspiracy, but asking an important health related question.


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: Without_Ego]
    #12579823 - 05/17/10 03:33 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)
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Does anyone here have knowledge on this subject or of any related studies that have been conducted?




Mullenix 1995; Neurotoxicology and Teratology

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Without_Ego said:
What's your position on flouride in drinking water?




I am not for poisoning drinking water.


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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #12579833 - 05/17/10 03:35 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Sodium fluoride?  Thats a solid.  When its put into water you get fluoride ions.  Is that what you meant, ionic fluoride?

edit- Ok, I think I get it from your link.  They solid they use to add flouride is NaF, the sodium is just incidental.

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Re: Long term effects of Flouride exposure on the brain [Re: AlteredAgain] * 1
    #12579937 - 05/17/10 03:49 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

It's tough that the CDC, NIH, and so on haven't thrown out the rest of the research on the basis of the one study you found.

http://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/safety.htm

The preponderance of the evidence suggests that fluoridation is safe and effective.

Do you believe vaccines cause autism too?


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Re: Long term effects of Fluoride exposure on the brain [Re: truekimbo2] * 1
    #12579947 - 05/17/10 03:50 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

The only risk you have from drinking fluoridated water is the possibility of developing dental fluorosis (faint white to brown staining of the teeth) which is purely of aesthetic concern.  Studies have consistently failed to prove any links with adverse health effects.

The graph below shows the dmft scores (measure of dental decay) in Ayr in which the water has never been fluoridated and Kilmarn where the water was fluoridated briefly.  The reduction is dental decay is obvious and the increase after water fluoridation ceased is evidence for the benefits it provides to oral health.  It is also has a universal effect in society so the less advantaged, to whom good oral hygiene may be less well instilled, benefit.


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