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Offlineusulpsychonaut
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Are you really living?
    #12209836 - 03/15/10 10:02 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I watched the movie ‘peaceful warrior’. 
A line from the movie;
“death is merely a transformation, a little more radical than puberty, but it’s not sad, what is sad is that most people die without ever having lived”.
What does it mean to really live?
Do you know that you are really alive?

Personally I'm delusional.


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You never existed, you will never exist. You're not real. Nothing you ever knew existed. Nor does anyone you think you ever knew, nor your life, nor where you live. You made it all up. - El Collie


"For Odin, my god
For folk, my spirit
For land, my soul"
-Spear Of Longinus


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Re: Are you really living? [Re: usulpsychonaut] * 1
    #12210523 - 03/16/10 12:00 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

When you stop taking life so seriously you are truly living.



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The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant, and has forgotten the gift. - Albert Einstein



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Re: Are you really living? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #12210670 - 03/16/10 12:36 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I think I would have to agree.


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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker


"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno." 


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Re: Are you really living? [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #12211155 - 03/16/10 05:03 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Living to die & dying to live
Only the ones who go beyond death truly live
Otherwise this is just a life of attachment & fear, and to me, that ain't living

When you can throw everything to the wind, especially this 'I', then your living
When your mind is carrying nothing you no longer carry the weight of the world on your shoulders, you flip it & dance on top of the world

HAHAHAHAHAHA how wonderful it is not to be sane! :crazy2:
I should really say how wonderful it is to not be insane, as its the life of fear that is insane


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Re: Are you really living? [Re: The Chronic]
    #12211208 - 03/16/10 05:32 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

there are a lot of insane people out there


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Re: Are you really living? [Re: deCypher] * 1
    #12211217 - 03/16/10 05:40 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

me personally, i have never lived.


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Re: Are you really living? [Re: moi]
    #12211233 - 03/16/10 05:50 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Imo the person never lives, life is defined beyond personhood
The person is just a role life plays
If you see its just a role, something is freed up
Everything gets lighter, less serious, more playful, you start living
Its like being a child again

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players,
They have their exits and their entrances,
And one man in his time plays many parts"


Characters of consciousness, playing


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Re: Are you really living? [Re: The Chronic]
    #12211241 - 03/16/10 05:53 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Thou owest God a death.
--William Shakespeare


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Re: Are you really living? [Re: deCypher]
    #12211345 - 03/16/10 06:43 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I like this thread.:thumbup:


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― Ernest Becker


"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno." 


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Re: Are you really living? [Re: The Chronic]
    #12211589 - 03/16/10 08:21 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Chronic777 said:
Imo the person never lives, life is defined beyond personhood
The person is just a role life plays
If you see its just a role, something is freed up
Everything gets lighter, less serious, more playful, you start living
Its like being a child again

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players,
They have their exits and their entrances,
And one man in his time plays many parts"


Characters of consciousness, playing




We are the play and the director. :sun:


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The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant, and has forgotten the gift. - Albert Einstein



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Re: Are you really living? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #12211607 - 03/16/10 08:28 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

And beyond, as you are aware of both  :grin:


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Re: Are you really living? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #12211610 - 03/16/10 08:29 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

...and the prop.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Are you really living? [Re: The Chronic]
    #12211641 - 03/16/10 08:35 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Chronic777 said:
And beyond, as you are aware of both  :grin:




Yea. It's so simple! hehe


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Re: Are you really living? [Re: Poid]
    #12212828 - 03/16/10 12:48 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Poid said:
...and the prop.




:lol:


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Re: Are you really living? [Re: deCypher] * 2
    #12212866 - 03/16/10 12:55 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

In the name of the director, the actor, and the holy prop... amen.


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Re: Are you really living? [Re: Kickle]
    #12212972 - 03/16/10 01:13 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

"we are always getting ready to live, but never really living."
                                          -Ralph Waldo Emerson


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I close my eyes and seize it
I clench my fists and beat it
I light my torch and burn it
I am the beast I worship....


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Re: Are you really living? [Re: Olympus Mons]
    #12215311 - 03/16/10 07:24 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

This thing I keep hearing is 'be present to the now'. Another line from Peaceful Warrior is "Right now is all you have". When the mind is focussed on the past or the future, that apparently is illusion.

When I'm in 'the now' I'm focussed on this mysterious life force that animates my body, imagining the same life force in all the mass and space that surrounds me. Beyond this I don't know any other purpose, where is this going?

That is my problem... I think the idea is to be absorbed by some kind of vocation... I'm just completely lazy and apathetic about. I really don't have a clue what about anything, this thread is pointless.


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For folk, my spirit
For land, my soul"
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Re: Are you really living? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #12215372 - 03/16/10 07:33 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

c0sm0nautt said:
When you stop taking life so seriously you are truly living.





wait! there is some kind of point lingering... I think I don't take anything seriously right now, but this does not feel like living, now that nothing is serious, I seriously can't find a reason to open my curtains and go outside. This is just the same as not having anything to do because I know the future is hopeless, or being to down to do anything because the past is reference only to failure...

But being in the now, and not taking it seriously, well this really does somehow feel better, allot better.


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You never existed, you will never exist. You're not real. Nothing you ever knew existed. Nor does anyone you think you ever knew, nor your life, nor where you live. You made it all up. - El Collie


"For Odin, my god
For folk, my spirit
For land, my soul"
-Spear Of Longinus


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Re: Are you really living? [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #12216813 - 03/17/10 01:01 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I think when you feel that oneness with Nature you're "really living", but I also personally think of drifters as people that are really living. Just friends, drugs and the road... no wankers, just a tight-knit bunch of misfits. I used to sort of be that way... SORT OF! It's a lifestyle that makes you sound cosmopolitan and well-traveled etc. which I'm not.

I've spent nearly a whole day in a forest reserve completely sober and come home feeling so deep and relaxed and at peace with everything... such a great feeling the forest gives you.


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Re: Are you really living? [Re: circastes]
    #12216822 - 03/17/10 01:04 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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such a great feeling the forest gives you.


Yep. :gump:


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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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