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 Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Fahkface]
#12139827 - 03/04/10 12:57 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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thank you man that makes me feel great about giving away the prints.
and your right about isolating.
if i remember right without going through the thread the tub stonesun got the muchroom the spores came from was an isolate.
also another question wile were at it.
i cloned a fruit that looked normal and dropped spores like crazy
i havent grown it yet to see how it comes out but im wondering why spore companies have such a hard time getting prints when i hit the jackpot.
if my clone keeps it in the genetics then im one lucky bastard i guess.
but why are the spore companies able to do this?
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: whyblameus]
#12139898 - 03/04/10 01:15 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure they are. PE spores ain't more expensive than the spores of any other "strain", although they're that much harder to print. Maybe they did the same thing.
Who knows. I'm not a spore company
Maybe you should just ask the sponsors.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Fahkface]
#12139977 - 03/04/10 02:07 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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wait sorry im buzzed i meant why arent the spore companies able to do it?
cause they never have pe prints for sale just syringes.
i dont type rite when im drinking.
just wondering the question wasnt exactly directed at just you but what everyone thinks.
your input is greatly appreciated though.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: whyblameus]
#12139986 - 03/04/10 02:11 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh yea i dont really think the sponsors care why we wonder why they dont have pe prints or minor dumb things like that so i wont bother even asking.
maybe someone else cares enough to ask.
it was just something i was wondering.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: whyblameus]
#12140218 - 03/04/10 04:30 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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whyblameus said:
wait sorry im buzzed i meant why arent the spore companies able to do it?
cause they never have pe prints for sale just syringes.
They might use a centrifuge to separate spores from gill tissue. We've done itat the college to separate different spores/bacteria.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Fahkface]
#12140512 - 03/04/10 07:16 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fahkface said:
I have had normal looking and heavy sporulating fruits from PE quiet a few times, while the next generation, grown from these spores, looked like the typical PE again.
Unless you work with an isolate / clone it's really up to the mushroom what will develop.
I have grown pe multispore also and never gotten this. Perhaps it is just pe6 that does this?
Also in all the discussion of pe, I have NEVER heard of anyone growing a pe that a) had an annulus remaining attached to the stem, b) did not have a wrinkly neck upon maturation AND c) was a heavy sporulator.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: anonjon]
#12140691 - 03/04/10 08:04 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I want to cultivate azures! Any tips on th type of fruiting chamber setup?
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This is for strains, not species. Wood lovers like azures are best cultivated outdoors.
http://www.fungifun.org/English/Psilocybe-Azurescens-Outdoor-Cultivation
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: anonjon]
#12140788 - 03/04/10 08:27 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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anonjon said:
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Fahkface said:
I have had normal looking and heavy sporulating fruits from PE quiet a few times, while the next generation, grown from these spores, looked like the typical PE again.
Unless you work with an isolate / clone it's really up to the mushroom what will develop.
I have grown pe multispore also and never gotten this. Perhaps it is just pe6 that does this?
Also in all the discussion of pe, I have NEVER heard of anyone growing a pe that a) had an annulus remaining attached to the stem, b) did not have a wrinkly neck upon maturation AND c) was a heavy sporulator.
Now you have. This has actually happened with more than one print, while one was from a vendor.
With PE#6 I actually never had any fruits that looked like PE.
Actually every strain is capable of more or less anything. You must not forget, that there can be billions of spores on a single print.
As I said, PE is an isolate. And they have done well work isolating it's regular growing habits. This, however, does not mean, they've erased all genetic traces of "normal" looking mushrooms.
Same with KSSS and any Albino strain btw, which are -as you know- quiet unique looking as well.
As I said, PE is
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Fahkface]
#12140807 - 03/04/10 08:34 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh oops sorry about that I'm a noob. Anyone ever had much experience with Burma, equador or b+? just started a few batches and want to know if those are highly reccomended strains? What have you experienced with them in any area?
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These are up for grab for anyone and everyone regardless of age, sex, race, ratings or whatever.
The only thing I require is that you live in the US and not in CA, GA or ID.
Are they still up for grabs????
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Fahkface]
#12141866 - 03/04/10 12:00 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Now you have. This has actually happened with more than one print, while one was from a vendor.
With PE#6 I actually never had any fruits that looked like PE.
Maybe PE 6 is unstable then. Has anyone seen this occur with the original pe strain?
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Actually every strain is capable of more or less anything.
I'm sorry, but I disagree. If I plant carrots, I'm not going to get parsnips. There is a big difference between possible, and probable. If this is occurring with pe6 on a regular basis, there is surely a better explanation than random genetic variation.
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As I said, PE is an isolate.
What do you mean by this?
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: anonjon]
#12141931 - 03/04/10 12:08 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Carrots and parsnips are two different species while a cube is cube.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: badman]
#12142189 - 03/04/10 12:45 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe PE 6 is unstable then. Has anyone seen this occur with the original pe strain?
I was actually talking about the original PE in the first sentence. Not about PE#6.
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I'm sorry, but I disagree. If I plant carrots, I'm not going to get parsnips. There is a big difference between possible, and probable. If this is occurring with pe6 on a regular basis, there is surely a better explanation than random genetic variation.
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Carrots and parsnips are two different species while a cube is cube.
Different "strains" have different tendencies in terms of shape etc. This, however, does not mean they always grow like you expect them to grow.
Every spore is a genetic individual. Most of these genetic individuals develop in a way, so that you can't really distinguish them. They look mostly the same.
Some "strains", such as PE, KSSS or any albino strain where isolated for their tendencies to develop certain characteristics.
However, when you isolate a strain, that inhibits all features you want and you take a spore print of it, what you get from the spores in random again. Only the tendency for the genetics of the spores to develop mushrooms, of which the fruits look like would like increased a little. You have to do a lot of work to actually get a strain, that is as stable as PE. It still isn't guaranteed you get what you expect: Penis shaped fruits.
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What do you mean by this?
I mean what I said. PE is an isolated strain.
The tendency of penis shaped fruits was isolated from a wild cubensis, that was -probably- found in the Colombian Amazon.
As far as the information currently goes, it was isolated from the spores of normal looking fruit.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: anonjon]
#12142388 - 03/04/10 01:15 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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anonjon said:
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Fahkface said:
I have had normal looking and heavy sporulating fruits from PE quiet a few times, while the next generation, grown from these spores, looked like the typical PE again.
Unless you work with an isolate / clone it's really up to the mushroom what will develop.
I have grown pe multispore also and never gotten this. Perhaps it is just pe6 that does this?
Also in all the discussion of pe, I have NEVER heard of anyone growing a pe that a) had an annulus remaining attached to the stem, b) did not have a wrinkly neck upon maturation AND c) was a heavy sporulator.
dude you just dont listen and reply shit that doesnt even pertain to the topic your debating.
wtf does pe6 have to do with this.
i grew pe and fahkface was also talking about regular pe.
you just like to argue.
and he said he grew them and they did it and i showed pics of it too.
so whats not to believe?
how have you never seen it happen did you not see my pics?
get over your superior self.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: whyblameus]
#12142419 - 03/04/10 01:19 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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whyblameus said:
dude you just dont listen and reply shit that doesnt even pertain to the topic your debating.
wtf does pe6 have to do with this.
i grew pe and fahkface was also talking about regular pe.
you just like to argue.
and he said he grew them and they did it and i showed pics of it too.
so whats not to believe?
how have you never seen it happen did you not see my pics?
get over your superior self.
I'm not, I just find it fascinating. Sorry I didn't know it was regular pe, not pe6.
Stop being such a little BITCH.
Sorry for finding it so interesting.
If anyone else has experienced it, I would love to hear about it.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: anonjon]
#12142489 - 03/04/10 01:30 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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anonjon said:
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whyblameus said:
dude you just dont listen and reply shit that doesnt even pertain to the topic your debating.
wtf does pe6 have to do with this.
i grew pe and fahkface was also talking about regular pe.
you just like to argue.
and he said he grew them and they did it and i showed pics of it too.
so whats not to believe?
how have you never seen it happen did you not see my pics?
get over your superior self.
I'm not, I just find it fascinating. Sorry I didn't know it was regular pe, not pe6.
Stop being such a little BITCH.
Sorry for finding it so interesting.
If anyone else has experienced it, I would love to hear about it.
thats why you should read the posts and know what your even responding to.
it was said it was regular pe many times how did you miss it.
also the link to were the spores came from were regular pe if you would have looked at the link i posted.
the little bitch is you for not knowing what your debating. 
im glad your interested but if your that interested know whats going on.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: anonjon]
#12142500 - 03/04/10 01:32 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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yawn. more bitching. get over it. i'm not even debating ne1, just prying for info.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: anonjon]
#12142583 - 03/04/10 01:45 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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yawn. more bitching. get over it. i'm not even debating ne1, just prying for info.
yea whatever you say.
im sure everyone else can see it too your just a blind fool.
im glad your so butthurt.
my job here is done.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: whyblameus]
#12142943 - 03/04/10 02:42 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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im glad your so butthurt.
glad to oblige i guess. i wouldn't be the first to get the butthurtz over something stupid.
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