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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Doc_T]
    #12131374 - 03/02/10 09:31 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

anyone want to tell me why my pe i got in here from stonesun.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11463539#11463539

most look like this and drop spores like crazy.




but this is also the mutants and puff ball shrooms too.

this it the other side of the one above and you can see on the stem evan that one was dropping spores.


is it just the genetic jackpot thats giving me the regular looking shrooms and the spores shooting out all over?


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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: whyblameus]
    #12132236 - 03/03/10 12:37 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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is it just the genetic jackpot thats giving me the regular looking shrooms and the spores shooting out all over?




Probably yes. It happens -not even that rarely- that PE develops fruits that look completely normal.
"Curse" of multispore inoculation.


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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Fahkface]
    #12134052 - 03/03/10 11:05 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

ah thanks.

i dont mind them looking normal its cool cause im getting some amazing prints.i have gotten over 60 prints from 10 half pint cakes and that little straw sandwich in the pic.:rockon:

and there damn potent so theres no complaints here.:grin:


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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: whyblameus]
    #12135731 - 03/03/10 03:12 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

but now that they look like completley normal cube's, will the prints, produce a PE looking fruit or will they be normal looking from now on out?


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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: biologys]
    #12136989 - 03/03/10 06:00 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

PE doesn't have an annulus. Those aren't pe. sorry.



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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: anonjon]
    #12137007 - 03/03/10 06:03 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

tell that to stonesun cus thats who made/labled the swab from his PE grow :mushroom2:


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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: 13shrooms]
    #12137026 - 03/03/10 06:05 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

you don't agree about the annulus attached to the stem in that pic? Also, the cap is open yet the neck below the cap doesn't show the slightest wrinkle. Not to mention the fact that it's a prolific sporulator.

3 strikes. It's out.


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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: anonjon]
    #12137045 - 03/03/10 06:08 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe it was PE6?


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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #12137066 - 03/03/10 06:11 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

isn't pe6 the hybrid with texas strain that has reddish gnarled caps?


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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: anonjon]
    #12137147 - 03/03/10 06:23 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

PE6 is a hybrid of PE and a Texan strain.

The PE6 I've seen look more like your average cube and sometimes throws out PE looking fruits.

Here's a pic of some PE6 spores, they sometimes throw out pure brown prints.



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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: anonjon]
    #12137269 - 03/03/10 06:39 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

did you guys not see were the spores came from.
i put the link.

i grew from the swab that came and once and a wile i do get some that look like pe.

there usually small.

this is not pe6 unless thats what stonesun sent and i doubt that.



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PE doesn't have an annulus. Those aren't pe. sorry.






look at the ones in the last 3 pics there isnt one.

its only some that arent normal.


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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: whyblameus]
    #12137342 - 03/03/10 06:49 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

heres the thread/pics from where WBUs spores came from:sun:

stonesun said:
So today I got back from work and checked
my PE mini mono.
I've decided to harvest it only tomorrow.
I was feeling a little bored.
WTF am I gonna do to kill some time?!
Checked Shroomery just to find out I've got
1499 posts.
What else would be a nicer 1500th post than
a giveaway?
I'm pretty low on prints, so had another idea...
Went downstairs, fired up the flowhood, eat
and took a shower.
Then I harvested a couple of mature PE fruits, and made up 10 swabs.

These are up for grab for anyone and everyone regardless of age, sex, race, ratings or whatever.
The only thing I require is that you live in the US and not in CA, GA or ID.
I'm pretty low on stamps (I've got enough
to send these fuckers out...), so if you
feel, you're more than welcome to send me some!:wink:
Disclaimer: these swabs were made in a sterile environment at least as sterile as
it can be.
However the spores did not come from sterile
fruits obviously.
Therefore I can not guarantee that your
work will be successful, unless you know
what the fuck are you doing.:shrug:
Your best bet is to put the swab on agar.
The other way is to take some sterile water
and an inoculation loop, and scrape the spores from the wet swab into the water.
Suck it up in a syringe and into a LC.
I've had success this way before, but agar
is the foolproof and preferred method.

First ten posters who say:
"I want one"
going to get them.
Good luck!

Here's a few pics:










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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: anonjon]
    #12137378 - 03/03/10 06:55 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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anonjon said:
you don't agree about the annulus attached to the stem in that pic? Also, the cap is open yet the neck below the cap doesn't show the slightest wrinkle. Not to mention the fact that it's a prolific sporulator.

3 strikes. It's out.





PE are known mutants so maybe thats the "normal" PE :grin: 

ya know, a cube is a cube :mushroomgrow:




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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: 13shrooms]
    #12137420 - 03/03/10 06:59 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: enthiangenic]
    #12137478 - 03/03/10 07:06 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: whyblameus]
    #12137729 - 03/03/10 07:38 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Well, it really spikes my curiosity. I can't imagine why you would get some misc fruits in a pe grow, showing none of the typical characteristics.

Are you sure you didn't mix in a cake or two of another strain?

If you are sure, then I wonder if your pe somehow corrected itself. That is, corrected the genetic deficiency that causes it to be a non-sporulatin, non-veil forming, wrinkly-necked freak.


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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: whyblameus]
    #12137789 - 03/03/10 07:48 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

im very sure it happens on all of them.

im confused too thats why i posted it.:shrug:

i have given a shitload of prints and i dont want poeple to think its not pe cause it looks nothing like it.

i havent grown from my own spores yet so :shrug: how they look.


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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: whyblameus]
    #12139630 - 03/04/10 12:11 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Well, it really spikes my curiosity. I can't imagine why you would get some misc fruits in a pe grow, showing none of the typical characteristics.




The features of PE are isolated ones. As ANY other Cube, it is well capable of growing completely normal looking fruits. It's increased tendency to develop it's typical shape does not mean, that it will be that way each and every time.
As you know, with multispore knock ups, you shoot probably thousands of genetic individuals to a single jar. Apparently most of these spores will develop into a mushroom that grows the desired shape, while some will grow normal looking fruits, a mixture of both or whatever they "want" to.

I have had normal looking and heavy sporulating fruits from PE quiet a few times, while the next generation, grown from these spores, looked like the typical PE again.
Unless you work with an isolate / clone it's really up to the mushroom what will develop.


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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Fahkface]
    #12139785 - 03/04/10 12:47 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I am brand new to cultivating and was wondering if I could mix two different strain on separate cakes into the same casing using the crumble and case method. Thanks to everyone contributing to this wealth of information! (Also I know I might find this question elsewhere, but I need to get in so many posts before I can get to certain places on this site) :laugh:


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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: shroomboom13]
    #12139803 - 03/04/10 12:52 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, you can. It's the same species of mushrooms.
What exactly would be the purpose for you to do it?


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