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LongStrangeTrip
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: awesomebastard]
#12118334 - 03/01/10 08:23 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fire Man said: There are millions of dollars sunk into keeping these plants out of the hands of people who use them - without side effects - to treat all manner of disease, physical and mental. That's part of what is making this fight so difficult.
So what if they make more money than any other industry?
Oh no lobbyists. They must be evil!
And if you can name one plant that is proven to treat some disease that has no side effects let us know.
I knoow this thread is not a debate about lobbyists for pharmacutical companies...
But I just have to comment on how dense you must be if you are laughing off the influence of lobbyists in the house and senate. I'm not addressing any other junk you said in the past 3 pages...but your attitude about lobbyists; stupid, to say the least. The Pharm lobby does support the drug war in multipule ways; as do beer companies, private prison industry, the list goes on...
And yes, that's a problem, becaue their opinions become much more important than those of the citizens. Its why so many people in the US can be against the drug war, and it makes little to no difference either way. The ones with the money have their posistions, and their money speaks for us all.
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: awesomebastard]
#12118442 - 03/01/10 09:19 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Take a poll of this website and see how many of us are totally fucked in the head.
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: Temerity]
#12119841 - 03/01/10 02:00 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mikeyyork said:
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Take a poll of this website and see how many of us are totally fucked in the head.

Done! Here it is: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12119887 Shroomery Sanity User Poll
Edited by curenado (03/01/10 02:27 PM)
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: curenado]
#12120085 - 03/01/10 02:42 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Needs more options. I've had drug related depression but i'm not going to click "I have serious mental problems". Yeah i'm reasonably sane but so are most people, so it's not going to tell you a lot really.
To be honest i think i've known as many crazy straight heads as i have drug users, all in their own ways.
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: Temerity]
#12120237 - 03/01/10 03:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Seems like you already answered - it wasn't meant to be that complex. It was just a simple question. We all have our sh*t, but you seem to indicate a desire or effort to be more on the reasonable/saner side. A person would think of that as more like a regular person endeavoring to cope as well as any of us are able I'd think? Seems like you put two thoughts into it at least - better than some are able to such as possibly your "screwed up straights"... I agree with your thoughts about use/non use not a direct indicator as well, I just didn't expect a lot of Tea Total'ers hanging around shroomery much
Edit/Re: MikeyYork: Not designed to derive any information relative to drug use/not use and mental status - only the simple question and surely not for the purpose of generating such a posture based on the responses. (Didn't want to post again on the BBB thread and figured you'd see this... )
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Edited by curenado (03/01/10 05:04 PM)
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: curenado]
#12120831 - 03/01/10 04:32 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah i was thinking someone can be fucked in the head while being reasonably sane. You'd have to include the lesser degrees and occasional sufferers to get a better view on drug related effects. It could easily get complicated though.
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: Temerity]
#12121482 - 03/01/10 06:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Should I be concerned? SWIM ordered from there around Jan 30
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: Temerity]
#12121513 - 03/01/10 06:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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edit:@ awesomebastard Quote:
And if you can name one plant that is proven to treat some disease that has no side effects let us know.
Ummmm........I got one!
Plant: An orange Tree Treats: Scurvy Side effects: Teeth?
Edited by makersmarc (03/01/10 08:44 PM)
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LongStrangeTrip
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: makersmarc]
#12121980 - 03/01/10 07:18 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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makersmarc said: @ LongStrangeTrip Quote:
And if you can name one plant that is proven to treat some disease that has no side effects let us know.
Ummmm........I got one!
Plant: An orange Tree Treats: Scurvy Side effects: Teeth?
Dude...I did not say that, so don't qoute me ass!!!! 
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#12122615 - 03/01/10 08:47 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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LongStrangeTrip said:
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makersmarc said: @ LongStrangeTrip Quote:
And if you can name one plant that is proven to treat some disease that has no side effects let us know.
Ummmm........I got one!
Plant: An orange Tree Treats: Scurvy Side effects: Teeth?
Dude...I did not say that, so don't qoute me ass!!!!  
Oops, sorry dude! It was in your post as a quote .... Fixed it
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: makersmarc]
#12123997 - 03/01/10 11:27 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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wait did i just read something saying they could go after people who bought from them?!?
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: r3nzhe]
#12124101 - 03/01/10 11:39 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: curenado]
#12124143 - 03/01/10 11:44 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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curenado said: For those who just looked and don't want to go through the whole thread:
1) Man, money & records seized, not inventory
2) Yes, you may still order and get your order
3) Waiting for more relevant news about BBB, John Sloan and next events
4) They could probably use your order

i dont know if youre talking about the BBB inventory but the feds did seize some of their products
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: Invisible_Woe]
#12124217 - 03/01/10 11:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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and a toad
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#12124377 - 03/02/10 12:21 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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LongStrangeTrip said:
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awesomebastard said:
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Fire Man said: There are millions of dollars sunk into keeping these plants out of the hands of people who use them - without side effects - to treat all manner of disease, physical and mental. That's part of what is making this fight so difficult.
So what if they make more money than any other industry?
Oh no lobbyists. They must be evil!
And if you can name one plant that is proven to treat some disease that has no side effects let us know.
I knoow this thread is not a debate about lobbyists for pharmacutical companies...
But I just have to comment on how dense you must be if you are laughing off the influence of lobbyists in the house and senate. I'm not addressing any other junk you said in the past 3 pages...but your attitude about lobbyists; stupid, to say the least. The Pharm lobby does support the drug war in multipule ways; as do beer companies, private prison industry, the list goes on...
And yes, that's a problem, becaue their opinions become much more important than those of the citizens. Its why so many people in the US can be against the drug war, and it makes little to no difference either way. The ones with the money have their posistions, and their money speaks for us all.
Learn to distinguish between opinion and fact.
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Edited by awesomebastard (03/02/10 12:48 AM)
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: makersmarc]
#12124466 - 03/02/10 12:31 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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And if you can name one plant that is proven to treat some disease that has no side effects let us know.
Ummmm........I got one!
Plant: An orange Tree Treats: Scurvy Side effects: Teeth?
That is not a treatment for a disease scurvey is caused by the lack of a necessary nutrient vitamin C.
That's like saying water treats dehydration.
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: awesomebastard]
#12124743 - 03/02/10 01:07 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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awesomebastard said: hey mr pink.

I love how my post got edited because of [off-topic personalisms removed]
Yet this bullshit picture up above still remains. Fuck you geokills
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: Mr.Pink]
#12125444 - 03/02/10 03:36 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Actually, water does treat dehydration - that is the treatment for it, and vitamin c is the treatment for scurvy unless you have another treatment regimen for both of these conditions? Electrolyte supplementation as well as other vits/mins can be and are given but the primary treatments are - in most people's functional reality - the ones listed.
In so far as BBB, if they are listing it for sale then they will sell it - while I am uncertain about any part or portion of the inventory that was taken a large chunk of the "property" was business paperwork and also I'm sure defines what inventory items they may have taken as well. I did not see or hear much about that and all I have heard is from a general attitude of "business as mostly (at least) usual" - I'll try to keep following but am counting on them to write to me and be patient.
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Edited by curenado (03/02/10 03:44 AM)
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: curenado]
#12125462 - 03/02/10 03:43 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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awesomebastard said: That is not a treatment for a disease scurvey is caused by the lack of a necessary nutrient vitamin C.
That's like saying water treats dehydration.
Scurvy IS a disease. Not all diseases are caused by pathogens.
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curenado said: Actually, water does treat dehydration - that is the treatment for it, and vitamin c is the treatment for scurvy unless you have another treatment regimen for both of these conditions? Electrolyte supplementation as well as other vits/mins can be and are given but the primary treatments are - in most people's functional reality - the ones listed.
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
#12125497 - 03/02/10 03:55 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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fuckin pigs where are all the activists there needs to be more incentive for these fucks to attend to real problems. we need some sort of revolution.
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