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 Green_T
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 Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove useful...  [Re: YSJ]
#9250881 - 11/15/08 08:32 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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ORIGINAL LINK IS DEAD
WORKING LINK
(http://www.lubilosa.org/Engl03a.PDF)
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 Rock80
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove useful... [Re: Green_T]
#10499535 - 06/13/09 02:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the updated link
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove usefu [Re: YSJ]
#10635035 - 07/07/09 12:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
YSJ said:
Yeah, I was kinda sold on its usefulness when I saw the following in all caps:
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS MOSTLY STERILE
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YOU ARE ONE BIG CONTAMINANT
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SHORT CUTS = CONTAMINATION
Kinda sums it all up, really ;D
~YSJ~
AGGGGHHHH!!Im a nurse, and that sounds too much like our infection control officer!!!lol!!
Anyway, i really wanted to read this, but the pdf link seems to be dead, its downloading, but when i try to open it, im just being told adobe cant do it!????
Scrap that, just saw GreenT's link, cheers man
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Terence McKenna
Edited by anabolichendo (07/07/09 12:30 PM)
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove usefu [Re: anabolichendo]
#10701420 - 07/18/09 11:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cool Stuff; saw a section about sterile techniques in there, this will go good with any Droog nfo collection! THnx 
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove usefu [Re: TheHobbit]
#10922710 - 08/23/09 10:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you only got ten percent contamination then you had better watch your nose grow in the nearest mirror.
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World Spirit
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove useful... [Re: YSJ]
#11154320 - 09/30/09 01:31 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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link is broken
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World Spirit
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove useful... [Re: Green_T]
#11154322 - 09/30/09 01:32 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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damnit never mind lol
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Nejinmy
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove usefu [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
#11325799 - 10/26/09 06:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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blue contam>
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove useful... [Re: YSJ]
#11961138 - 02/04/10 01:28 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Maybe renaming this thread something like Sterilization and Cleanliness Techniques or something like that would be a good idea, as to let people know what this thread contains. I just found this now, wish I would've sooner though! I normally wouldn't think twice about it but since this is a sticky I thought it might be useful to clarify.
Just my  
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove useful... [Re: freemind]
#11967322 - 02/05/10 10:25 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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This was much helpful - Thanks.
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kmark
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove useful... [Re: Green_T]
#12087224 - 02/24/10 06:37 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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i have been having a huge trich problem recently, hope this helps
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove useful [Re: fastfred]
#12444957 - 04/23/10 06:43 PM (3 years, 26 days ago) |
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fastfred said:
Quote:
YSJ said:
Now, if we could just make up a simple listing of the UNHOLY HORRORS which imbibing of contaminated fruits could bring upon one....That, along with reasons why NOT TO PHUCK AROUND WITH CLEARLY CONTAMINATED JARS. Sheesh.
Maybe we should wait for someone to actually get sick first, before we start telling everyone how sick it will make you.
Has there ever been a documented case?
-FF
I have to say I am confused... and very tempted to track down the post I read earlier today... mushrooms are not plants, they do not have roots that suck up the toxins produced by bacteria, nor do they incorporate it into the mycelium. Even if sections of substrate have been contaminated, mushrooms grown elsewhere are not contaminated unless by contact. Those deaths and horror stories you hear? Often from ingestion of 'unsafe' mushroom strains.
So yes, I would love to actually hear a listing of exactly what will happen if a mushroom is ingested from a cake that had a spot of contam. A degree in neurobiology and working in a lab does not make me an expert... for some reason they don't tell you a whole lot about the specifics of eating fungus, can't imagine why! =P
Example: I recently had a cake that was contaminated with blue-green mold. I took it out the incubator and stuck it on the shelf for later decontamination.... and 5 weeks later I stumbled upon it with the growth of bacteria completely halted and it pull of pins and small, healthy looking mushrooms struggling to get out. I've since removed it from the jar and after cutting off the contaminated section have it currently dunked in a water/h202 solution. Can someone conclusively say what will happen if I were to consume the resulting mushrooms?
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fastfred
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove useful [Re: dearrnn]
#12449748 - 04/24/10 04:16 PM (3 years, 25 days ago) |
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> Can someone conclusively say what will happen if I were to consume the resulting mushrooms?
Plenty of people have eaten mushrooms from contaminated cakes. Nobody has ever reported an actual illness from it.
Eating from these cakes is a good way to have a bad trip because of the fearmongering and wives' tales about potential dangers.
People eat moldy bread all the time and prisoners will even horde it as medicine.
If there was any real danger we'd know about it.
For everyone looking to flame me for rejecting OMC lore, provide some proof. Show proof of finding a dangerous contam on BRF or bread or anything of the sort. Otherwise you must admit there is no evidence to support the idea that it's a real risk to consume traces of common contams that grow on grain flours.
-FF
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove useful [Re: fastfred]
#12453804 - 04/25/10 03:33 PM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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Thank you! I'd even venture to say the fungi that can overcome those contams is pretty desirable for it's hardiness...
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neddypatches
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove useful [Re: fastfred]
#13871492 - 01/29/11 05:17 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
fastfred said:
> Can someone conclusively say what will happen if I were to consume the resulting mushrooms?
Plenty of people have eaten mushrooms from contaminated cakes. Nobody has ever reported an actual illness from it.
Eating from these cakes is a good way to have a bad trip because of the fearmongering and wives' tales about potential dangers.
People eat moldy bread all the time and prisoners will even horde it as medicine.
If there was any real danger we'd know about it.
For everyone looking to flame me for rejecting OMC lore, provide some proof. Show proof of finding a dangerous contam on BRF or bread or anything of the sort. Otherwise you must admit there is no evidence to support the idea that it's a real risk to consume traces of common contams that grow on grain flours.
-FF
Absolutely! I ate my third flush (fresh) two nights ago. The mycelium had turned greenish/purplish after the first. I had a great trip. I feel totally fine. I had no side-effects, besides what's obviously expected (a little fatigue, etc.) So don't worry about the mushrooms themselves if the mycelium is, in your opinion, "contaminated." Just don't eat the dirty cake!
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove useful [Re: neddypatches]
#14813560 - 07/23/11 03:16 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I realize I am posting on something that is quit old, but also feel it shouldn't be left in this state. I know nothing, have no proof, nor am I a scientist. What I do know though, is that mold/bacteria/etc have spores much like our magic mushrooms we are trying to grow. So when you let all that bad stuff grow, you are letting those spores out, which will likely land all over your mushroom you are about to eat. Our bodies are strong things able to fight off bad things, but think about it this way, would you eat bread/cheese that had mold growing on it? Having said that I also do not buy into the "bad mushrooms = bad trip" propaganda either. bad trip = bad state of mind with someone wanting to blame something other than themselves. Stuff like "I was at this party eat some mushrooms from some random dude and had this horrible trip", what they don't tell you is that they have been fighting depression and were around a bunch of people they didn't know and trust. Anyway everyone can use their own discretion, but my advice to anyone thinking about eating mushrooms they grew would be this, if it were in your fridge would you eat it? In other words, does it smell like it is supposed to (aka mushrooms) and does it have spots of color it shouldn't? If you apply rules like that to your food, why wouldn't you apply it to the mushrooms you grow. Let's be honest here, you are just trying to justify not throwing out your hard work. I've done it, I get it, but is it worth the risk in the end. Toss them out, start a new grow, you can have they ready to go in no more than a month. Cheers everyone.
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove useful... [Re: Green_T]
#14868205 - 08/03/11 06:52 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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nice thanks for the link
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Stix
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove useful... [Re: joeystl99]
#15177539 - 10/04/11 07:56 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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wheres the working link im really interested in what they use for steralization
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove usefu [Re: Stix]
#15245906 - 10/19/11 04:05 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Hey infact you have searched a great information, if i am not mistaken you have been using the search engines at regular basis on large spectrum.
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corpzz
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Re: Something which is elementary, but which may prove usefu [Re: jasonjason]
#15282547 - 10/26/11 08:54 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you, good to have.
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