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A list of issues that the activists will vote on include:

    * Amending the constitution to require a balanced budget and a two-thirds majority for any tax hike.
    * Permanently repealing all tax hikes scheduled to begin in 2011.
    * Requiring every bill in Congress to be made public seven days before any vote can be taken and all government expenditures authorized by any bill to be easily accessible on the Internet before the money is spent.
    * Requiring each bill to identify the specific provision of the Constitution that gives Congress the power to do what the bill does.
    * Permitting all health insurance plans to be sold anywhere in the United States through the purchase of insurance across state lines. Allow small businesses and associations to pool together across state lines to buy insurance.
    * Adopting a simple and fair single-rate tax system by scrapping the internal revenue code and “replacing it with one that is no longer than 4,543 words — the length of the original Constitution.”
    * Imposing a statutory cap limiting the annual growth in total federal spending to the sum of inflation rate plus the percentage of population growth.
    * Allowing Americans to opt out of Social Security and Medicare and instead put those same payroll taxes in a personal account “they own, control and can leave to whomever they choose.”
    * Preventing any regulation or tax on the Internet.
    * Improving education by eliminating ineffective and wasteful programs, giving parents more choices from pre-school to high school and improving the affordability of higher education.
    * Authorizing the exploration of proven energy reserves to reduce our dependence on foreign energy sources from unstable countries and reduce regulatory barriers to all other forms of energy creation, lowering prices and creating competition.
    * Prohibiting the Federal Communications Commission from using funds to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine.
    * Creating a Blue Ribbon task force that engages in a complete audit of federal agencies and programs.
    * Blocking state and local governments that receive federal grants from exercising eminent domain over private property for the primary purpose of economic development or enhancement of tax revenues.
    * Preventing the EPA from implementing costly new regulations.
    * Placing a moratorium on all earmarks until the process is fully transparent. Also requiring a two-thirds majority to pass any earmark.
    * Making all lawmaking regulators, including presidential appointed czars, be affirmatively approved by Congress and signed into law by the president.
    * Audit the Federal Reserve System.
    * Making sure the federal government does not bail out private companies. The government should also immediately divest itself of its stake in the private companies it owns from recent bailouts.
    * Amending the constitution to require congressional term limits. No person shall be elected to the Senate more than twice or to the House of Representatives more than four times.
    * Making all regulations “sunset” after 10 years unless renewed by congressional vote.
    * Broadcasting all non-security meetings and votes on C-SPAN and the Internet.

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Tea Party Patriots, the group organizing the effort, will hold a press conference on Thursday in Washington, D.C., at the CPAC conference to announce the launch of thecontract.org, where activists can help “draft” the finalized contract by voting for their top 10 of those issues.
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The Massachusetts man charged this week with stockpiling weapons after saying he feared an imminent "Armageddon" appears to have been active in the Tea Party movement, and saw Sarah Palin, who he said is on a "righteous 'Mission from God,'" as the only figure capable of averting the destruction of society.

As we reported yesterday, Gregory Girard, a Manchester technology consultant, was found with a stash of military grade weapons, explosive devices including tear gas and pepper ball canisters, camouflage clothing, knives, handcuffs, bulletproof vests and helmets, and night vision goggles, say police. They believe Girard, who pleaded not guilty at his arraignment, was "preparing for domestic and political turmoil," and feared martial law would soon be imposed.

Girard's wife said her husband had recently told her: "Don't talk to people, shoot them instead," and "it's fine to shoot people in the head because traitors deserve it."

But it appears that Girard had lately found a community with which to share some of his growing fears. A "Greg Girard," listing his location as Manchester, Mass., has a personal page on the "Patriots of America" online network, a popular site affiliated with the Tea Party movement. The phone number listed on the page is the same as the number listed on the website of Girard's consulting firm, which appears to have been run out of his home.

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The Massachusetts man charged this week with stockpiling weapons after saying he feared an imminent "Armageddon" appears to have been active in the Tea Party movement, and saw Sarah Palin, who he said is on a "righteous 'Mission from God,'" as the only figure capable of averting the destruction of society.

As we reported yesterday, Gregory Girard, a Manchester technology consultant, was found with a stash of military grade weapons, explosive devices including tear gas and pepper ball canisters, camouflage clothing, knives, handcuffs, bulletproof vests and helmets, and night vision goggles, say police. They believe Girard, who pleaded not guilty at his arraignment, was "preparing for domestic and political turmoil," and feared martial law would soon be imposed.

Girard's wife said her husband had recently told her: "Don't talk to people, shoot them instead," and "it's fine to shoot people in the head because traitors deserve it."

But it appears that Girard had lately found a community with which to share some of his growing fears. A "Greg Girard," listing his location as Manchester, Mass., has a personal page on the "Patriots of America" online network, a popular site affiliated with the Tea Party movement. The phone number listed on the page is the same as the number listed on the website of Girard's consulting firm, which appears to have been run out of his home.

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Permitting all health insurance plans to be sold anywhere in the United States through the purchase of insurance across state lines. Allow small businesses and associations to pool together across state lines to buy insurance.

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Adopting a simple and fair single-rate tax system by scrapping the internal revenue code and “replacing it with one that is no longer than 4,543 words — the length of the original Constitution.”

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Otherwise known to Earthlings are "letting the Bush tax cuts expire as currently written". BUSH SCHEDULED THESE 'TAX HIKES', DUMBSHITS. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE WORSHIPPED HIM SO MUCH. But in any event... aren't we supposed to be balancing the budget?
Well, no, actually, Bush didn't, Congress did.  And I'd like to change that.  Hence the push to do so.  If you can find one example of me worshipping Bush, or Conress during his tenure, for increasing government spending I'll kiss your ass in Macy's window.

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Plenty of people wanted something like this during the Bush years, when bills would be released at midnight and then voting would last until 4 in the morning, and the debt climbed and climbed. Talk about missing the fucking boat. Do teabaggers think the people reading this platform have amnesia, or what?

Really?  The only example I can really think of is the Reid/Pelosi health care.  Are you ever going to get it into your head that the Tea Party movement is just as much a revolt against Republican incontinence as it is against Dem profligacy?  Really, pay attention.  This isn't a Republican Party fuckfest.  They are getting taken to the woodshed for what is perceived to be a betrayal of conservative principles.  The Dems, on the other hand, are known whores by principle.  They cannot be reformed.
Which begs the question.  Are you or are you not in favor of this?  It was, after all, an Obama promise.  Remember?

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Permitting all health insurance plans to be sold anywhere in the United States through the purchase of insurance across state lines. Allow small businesses and associations to pool together across state lines to buy insurance.

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Again, you guys are suspiciously late to the party after a decade of tax cuts and wars. Why should anyone take this seriously?

Once again you have fallen into the trap of thinking we were happy with Republicans.  We weren't.  They just weren't Cthulhu Dems.  Wars would obviously be a special case but compensatory cuts should be made.  And there is an error there in the math.  It shouldn't be "plus".  It should be "times".

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Wherever better schools are.  Make schools compete and go market.  Why is this even a federal issue at all?  It's local and shoud stay local.

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Who said anything about "renewable" energy?  We have vast amounts of oil and gas and are prevented from accessing them by regulations.  The Department of Energy was created about 35 years ago specifically to reduce dependence on foreign sources.  Billions of dollars down a rathole with zero results.  End it.

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Kelo.  Something for each state to address themselves, although it does seem to be a perversion of "safe in their persons and property".  I got an idea.  How about we just stop with the whole "federal funds" nonsense.  That's how we got 55 MPH highways across Nevada ears ago.  Dumb.  Carter.

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    These weren't the tea-party platforms I heard discussed in Nashville last weekend. They were the campaign promises of Barack Obama in 2008.

    Mr. Obama made those promises because the ideas they represented were popular with average Americans. So popular, it turns out, that average Americans are organizing themselves in pursuit of the kind of good government Mr. Obama promised, but has not delivered. And that, in a nutshell, was the feel of the National Tea Party Convention. The political elites have failed, and citizens are stepping in to pick up the slack.                 

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Meanwhile, in an interview with the Chronicle of Higher Education, Anderson said he was searching for the “trigger” to his wife’s breakdown, and that he wondered whether an e-mail message - potentially in the form of a final tenure denial - might have upset her, because university higher-ups were known to send “nastygrams” on Fridays.

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I say we round up all Obama voters and subject them to a legal examination of their sanity.  Janet Napolitano was clearly looking in the wrong direction.  Again.

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I say we round up all Obama voters and subject them to a legal examination of their sanity.  Janet Napolitano was clearly looking in the wrong direction.  Again.

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Yeah didn't know that guy was a "hero" of the "Obama movement". Also it's pretty obvious the right has more nuts then the left. I mean just go to an NRA meeting- just one- go ahead chill with the rednecks.

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This world view's modern-day prophets include Texas radio host Alex Jones, whose documentary, The Obama Deception, claims Obama's candidacy was a plot by the leaders of the New World Order to "con the Amercican people into accepting global slavery"; Christian evangelist Pat Robertson; and the rightward strain of the aforementioned "9/11 Truth" movement. According to this dark vision, America's 21st-century traumas signal the coming of a great political cataclysm, in which a false prophet such as Barack Obama will upend American sovereignty and render the country into a godless, one-world socialist dictatorship run by the United Nations from its offices in Manhattan.

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For the millionth fucking time, BUSH SPENT LIKE A WHORE WITH A STOLEN CREDIT CARD.  But he doesn't hold a candle to this asshole for pure pisssing away wealth

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I have been a Republican my whole life, but this is the first time that I know God is in the White House. - Some guy at one of Bush's phony town hall meetings

Thank you. Thank you. - George Bush's humble, Christian reply

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Oh! Almost forgot. I'm shocked and saddened by the omission ....

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For the millionth fucking time, BUSH SPENT LIKE A WHORE WITH A STOLEN CREDIT CARD.  But he doesn't hold a candle to this asshole for pure pisssing away wealth

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The cumulative debt of the United States in the past 8 completed fiscal years was approximately $4.3 trillion, or about 43% of the total national debt of ~$10.0 trillion as of September 2008.

I tell you what, man. When Obama breaks 4.3 trillion, then you can start talking shit. Until then... I don't even know how to describe how dumb this sounds. All you newfound deficit hawks are really deficit Rip Van Winkles, and you will never live down those 8 years of bootlicking fealty to the Credit Card Conservative-in-Chief...

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...who, by the way, CREATED MOST OF OBAMA'S DEFICIT. Bush passed the bailouts, so that's roughly a cool trillion, and the only people surprised when a collapsing economy drove up the costs of automatic safety-net programs like unemployment and food stamps are the people who always comforted themselves with the knowledge that "only n***ers get unemployment and food stamps." I once heard one angry talk radio teabagger call up and demand that we get rid of food stamps because he had them for a few months (he emphasized that he wasn't "the kind of person to take a government handout", gee I wonder what "kind" of person he thinks that is?) and he felt that he had been able to eat too well.

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