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anonjon said:
This is a good writeup, but why dog the popcorn? It works great.

Btw if you get tired of trying to dry out grain after the simmer, before the pc, ... toss in some dry verm. I don't like having to dry it so much before the pc.

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Johnnybones said:
does the popcorn have to be completly dry before putting it in the jars to Pc

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Johnnybones said:
does the popcorn have to be completly dry before putting it in the jars to Pc

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it should be dry on the outside of the grains

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Interrobang said:
I saw a tek somewhere that says to PC the popcorn for 60 min @ 15psi to hydrate it. Then you lay it out to dry, put it in jars, and PC for 60 or 90 min to sterilize. This seems like less time and less work.

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Does sound easier never seen a tek using this method.  Quite possibly work.  If I used popcorn anymore I would consider trying it.

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I have some spawning to coir right now. I also did this and inoculated one day before inoculating rye. The rye is now at like 5% and the popcorn is at 80%.

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After spawning to coir the popcorn is at 80%? and the rye at 5%?  Or are you talking the speed of the jars?

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Interrobang said:
I saw a tek somewhere that says to PC the popcorn for 60 min @ 15psi to hydrate it. Then you lay it out to dry, put it in jars, and PC for 60 or 90 min to sterilize. This seems like less time and less work.
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sounds something like this>

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5781218#5781218

third paragraph down:

"First, put your corn in the pc without your jar rack (the plate the pc comes with to keep the jars off the bottom of the pc.) and cover with at least three inches of water.
you can probably go a little less once you get the hang of how much the dry kernels will absorb. on average the kernel will expand 3 times it's size.
Now pc at 15 psi for 1 hour. after an hour, turn off the pc and left the pressure adjust back to zero... once the safety nob drops, you can unscrew the lid. be very careful.. the pc will still be very hot. don't let the steam get ya in the face.
Now pour the corn into a strainer. I rinse off the corn with hot water first. the kernels will have lots of starch on them.. if you rinse with cold water first the starch will coegulate making it a bitch to get off. rinsing is a very important part of the process... you want to get the kernels as free from starch as possible. once you've rinsed with hot water... rinse with cold. this will cool the kernels down making them easier to handle and also 'tighten' the kernel up making it not so mooshy.
once rinsed, i let the corn sit for a few minutes to drain. Next i lay down a piece of paper towel and lay the corn on top of that in a single kernel layer. then i place another piece of paper towel on top of the corn layer and roll my hands lightly over the corn. this will wipe off excess water and starch from the corn before i place it in the 'faht jars'.
next the new faht jars go into the pc again for another 45 mins. allow the pc to cool this time before opening. make sure you shake the jars once they are out of the pc to redistribute the starchy water that will indefinately end up poolin on the bottom of the jar and thats it."



done many times with success.