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 GeminiWolf
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 Re: How LM makes his cakes  [Re: LeopardMan]
#12030588 - 02/14/10 11:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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No problem chica 
fixed it for ya 
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: libertaire]
#12033467 - 02/15/10 02:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't remember where or when I read it, but I saw a thread where someone stuck a drinking straw into the top of their cake and filled the straw with water. As the cake was thirsty, it drank the water. Seems like a similar idea to the syringe idea except self maintaining.
I think it was mentioned in a Fahtster's thread. Not sure though.
Here is the cake we were talking about:
  
It did well but as you may notice many pins didn't make it. Gemini es una chica mui bonita! Got it, sorry.
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: LeopardMan]
#12033610 - 02/15/10 02:26 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shit, is there anything left of the cake after you've harvested? Looks like there's that many mushies that they'll grab the whole cake with them.
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: MissShroom]
#12034358 - 02/15/10 04:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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No miss, the boy is strong enough to reach the threshold of 200 grams. We'll see.
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: LeopardMan]
#12034754 - 02/15/10 05:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread I bookmarked a while ago has pics of two different grows with straw reservoirs:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11057759#11057759
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: gornyhuy]
#12034774 - 02/15/10 05:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Erowid has a bunch of "modifications" to the basic PF Tek all numbered and written out, Adaptation #20 is about the water reservoir tek, or "moist core" - it claims a near doubling of the total output of the cake, based on the theory that cakes mycelium are usually water-limited.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_mmgg.shtml#moist_core
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: gornyhuy]
#12034789 - 02/15/10 05:35 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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More on the water reservoir from my notes....
HippieChick's version of this is to use a sharpie to create a good sized cavity in the BRF cake before PC and before innoc, then fill it with somewhat compressed dry verm to hold the water later on.
Dunk for 24 hours after birth, Then sit that cake onto a layer of moist verm so it can draw moisture up from the bottom and/or put a straw in the top of the cake for feeding it water during fruiting.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8990311#8990311
A few pertinent quotes:
"well i talked to the guy who originally did the straw technique and he highly recommends it.. and said to put the straw about 1/4 into the cake. and to also used distilled water to make the cakes. "
"You can also simply use your finger or a sharpie and make a small hole in the cake when you originally mix it and fill that with verm. Then, simply pour water into the reservoir when the cake starts to dry out.
Either way, don't keep the cake wet all the time or it will waterlog. Hydrate it, and then allow it to dry out a bit before wetting it again. If you dunk and roll prior to first flush, and then dunk between flushes, the straw tek isn't necessary.'"
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: gornyhuy]
#12034845 - 02/15/10 05:45 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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 Great links gorny.  IMO the easiest way to provide moisture is still dunking the cake for 10-12 hours (I am lazy) but both the syringe and the straw methods look very interesting.
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: LeopardMan]
#12034904 - 02/15/10 05:53 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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LeopardMan said:
Great links gorny. IMO the easiest way to provide moisture is still dunking the cake for 10-12 hours (I am lazy) but both the syringe and the straw methods look very interesting.
Agreed - I've never used straws either. The last one, Hippy Chick's method builds a verm column into the cake that acts as an extra water reservoir that gets filled by the dunk... doesn't need straws.
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: gornyhuy]
#12035003 - 02/15/10 06:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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gornyhuy said:
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LeopardMan said:
Great links gorny. IMO the easiest way to provide moisture is still dunking the cake for 10-12 hours (I am lazy) but both the syringe and the straw methods look very interesting.
Agreed - I've never used straws either. The last one, Hippy Chick's method builds a verm column into the cake that acts as an extra water reservoir that gets filled by the dunk... doesn't need straws.
If you put a verm column into the cake though, you are going to have less room for nutes. So theoretically adding water without subtrating nutes should be much better.
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: LeopardMan]
#12035167 - 02/15/10 06:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I didn't read all of this but have you tried this with only one variation of a MS syringe? Do you print and keep making syringes from you're same strain?
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Re: The heat shock. A new version of the glorious PF tek [Re: blood4blood]
#12035245 - 02/15/10 06:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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nice write up!!
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I didn't read all of this but have you tried this with only one variation of a MS syringe? Do you print and keep making syringes from you're same strain?
I'm starting my fifth MS project. So far I experimented with 4 different strains: EQ, TK (south african), CH, Lipa. I decided to start this thread because a great majority of my cakes (about 80%) shows this kind of pinset. Since I used a different tek I thought it would have been nice to share my ideas with this community.
Edit: I've also used a clone LC for a sixth project.
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: LeopardMan]
#12055334 - 02/18/10 06:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you put a verm column into the cake though, you are going to have less room for nutes. So theoretically adding water without subtrating nutes should be much better.
Actually, I used the inner res on EVERY cake that I ever did. it's an amazingly helpful tek imo. You don't lose any nutes. None of the cake mix is taken out of the cake when the column is made. I simply made the cake as anyone normally would.... But then after I flatten out the top and clean the glass rim, I take a sharpie and push it through the middle and wiggle it around until the column diameter was about that of a US nickle. Then I filled the column with dry verm and pushed it down with my finger; packing it in the column as much as I could. That way it didn't fall out when I birthed the cake. I also didn't remove that top verm barrier when I birthed the cake. This also helped keep the column in place.
Most will say to remove that verm barrier when you birth because it gets dirty while it sits there and the cake colonizes. But unless you put new sterilized verm on the cake (which I'm pretty sure most do not do) when you do a DEC'ing, I don't see the verm barrier getting dirty enough to do harm to the cake on the first flush at least. Esp. in my case since I didn't remove the tape during colonization. the DEC'ing is replaced after the first flush btw.
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Re: The heat shock. A new version of the glorious PF tek [Re: fahtster]
#12055341 - 02/18/10 06:58 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's amazing how full this thread is getting after only 8 days
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Re: The heat shock. A new version of the glorious PF tek [Re: JonEveryman88]
#12055412 - 02/18/10 07:10 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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JonEveryman88 said:
It's amazing how full this thread is getting after only 8 days
it is;
and im gonna try this with a few cakes.
we'l see how it works out with me
should be birthday within this next week
-monty
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: fahtster]
#12055463 - 02/18/10 07:17 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you put a verm column into the cake though, you are going to have less room for nutes. So theoretically adding water without subtrating nutes should be much better.
Actually, I used the inner res on EVERY cake that I ever did. it's an amazingly helpful tek imo. You don't lose any nutes. None of the cake mix is taken out of the cake when the column is made. I simply made the cake as anyone normally would.... But then after I flatten out the top and clean the glass rim, I take a sharpie and push it through the middle and wiggle it around until the column diameter was about that of a US nickle. Then I filled the column with dry verm and pushed it down with my finger; packing it in the column as much as I could. That way it didn't fall out when I birthed the cake. I also didn't remove that top verm barrier when I birthed the cake. This also helped keep the column in place.
Most will say to remove that verm barrier when you birth because it gets dirty while it sits there and the cake colonizes. But unless you put new sterilized verm on the cake (which I'm pretty sure most do not do) when you do a DEC'ing, I don't see the verm barrier getting dirty enough to do harm to the cake on the first flush at least. Esp. in my case since I didn't remove the tape during colonization. the DEC'ing is replaced after the first flush btw.
Thanks for clarifying this Fahtster. If you say it works, I believe you. This guy has 500 posts of pure gold. I would be very curious to know your opinion about the tek.
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Re: The heat shock. A new version of the glorious PF tek [Re: Monty-Driver]
#12055484 - 02/18/10 07:22 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Very well written tek! If I ever use cakes again, I will try this
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Re: The heat shock. A new version of the glorious PF tek [Re: neopet nub]
#12055522 - 02/18/10 07:27 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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im just waiting on clone's post! eager to see what he has to say
and yes, i read this entire god aweful( ) thread lol, several days ago
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Re: The heat shock. A new version of the glorious PF tek [Re: Monty-Driver]
#12055718 - 02/18/10 07:59 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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JonEveryman88 said:
It's amazing how full this thread is getting after only 8 days
it is;
and im gonna try this with a few cakes.
we'l see how it works out with me
should be birthday within this next week
-monty
Are you going to birth them within this week? Have you already heatshocked them? Thank you all for your nice comments. Let us know how it works for you.
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