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Do the right thing. Kill Cops whenever you can. Especially DEA pigs.

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That is counterproductive and just causes them to hire more and raise the budgets.

If you want less police/dea, you need to convince people that they are not needed and aren't a good use of tax dollars.

You can do that by writing your congresspeople, meeting with your congresspeople, commenting on online stories about drug busts/dea, and convincing your fellow citizens. 

Find examples of the police/dea wasting money, and publicize them.

Every town has places where the cops just hang out and waste time.  If you can find those places and film the cops doing nothing, you can get their budget cut since obviously they have too much budget.

As for the DEA, publicize all the medical marijuana raids and make the point that obviously they are overfunded if they waste their resources going after sick people.

If you aren't in a medical marijuana state and the cops bust sick people who are obviously using it medicinally, you can write a letter to the editor of your local paper and make a case for reducing police budgets.

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Do the right thing. Kill Cops whenever you can. Especially DEA pigs.

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That is counterproductive and just causes them to hire more and raise the budgets.

If you want less police/dea, you need to convince people that they are not needed and aren't a good use of tax dollars.

You can do that by writing your congresspeople, meeting with your congresspeople, commenting on online stories about drug busts/dea, and convincing your fellow citizens. 

Find examples of the police/dea wasting money, and publicize them.

Every town has places where the cops just hang out and waste time.  If you can find those places and film the cops doing nothing, you can get their budget cut since obviously they have too much budget.

As for the DEA, publicize all the medical marijuana raids and make the point that obviously they are overfunded if they waste their resources going after sick people.

If you aren't in a medical marijuana state and the cops bust sick people who are obviously using it medicinally, you can write a letter to the editor of your local paper and make a case for reducing police budgets.

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That. Violence and threats gets people pissed off, and then they use it as justification to fuck shit up.

I've got a different strain of complaint, however-

Is it just me, or have all the ethnobotanical sites shut down their sales of everything? All the places I know are relatively trustworthy are listing all of their at-all-questionable inventory as Out Of Stock, or have a 'Do Not Order until further notice, due to developments elsewhere' notice on their sites. I'm talking for things like MG and HBWR seeds, too-- it's the latter I was wanting, ironically to actually use for a garden. ._. I even tried ordering them from a ordinary garden store, but they refunded my purchase with a note saying the seeds wouldn't germinate properly. That might actually be the case, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's got more to do with this current paranoia amongst the ethnobotanical market. A few sellers I know of have permanently stopped selling Salvia, and the rest I know have similar holds on Salvia as they do on the rest of their inventory. In addition, the prices of everything have raised-- cacti to HBWR to Salvia. The last time I was looking for live plants, they cost ~28$. Now there's ONE Seller I know of selling salvia at all, and the live cuttings are 42$.

So. Does anyone know of any shops still moving at all? Even ordinary garden stores that might have this shit?

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That. Violence and threats gets people pissed off, and then they use it as justification to fuck shit up.

I've got a different strain of complaint, however-

Is it just me, or have all the ethnobotanical sites shut down their sales of everything? All the places I know are relatively trustworthy are listing all of their at-all-questionable inventory as Out Of Stock, or have a 'Do Not Order until further notice, due to developments elsewhere' notice on their sites. I'm talking for things like MG and HBWR seeds, too-- it's the latter I was wanting, ironically to actually use for a garden. ._. I even tried ordering them from a ordinary garden store, but they refunded my purchase with a note saying the seeds wouldn't germinate properly. That might actually be the case, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's got more to do with this current paranoia amongst the ethnobotanical market. A few sellers I know of have permanently stopped selling Salvia, and the rest I know have similar holds on Salvia as they do on the rest of their inventory. In addition, the prices of everything have raised-- cacti to HBWR to Salvia. The last time I was looking for live plants, they cost ~28$. Now there's ONE Seller I know of selling salvia at all, and the live cuttings are 42$.

So. Does anyone know of any shops still moving at all? Even ordinary garden stores that might have this shit?

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nessbeast, you just confirmed something I have been wondering. I have placed orders twice through amazon.com for HBWR from two different garden supply stores. On both occasions, after about a week, I am informed that my credit card has been refunded because of "poor germination" of the seeds. And these are NOT ethnobotanical suppliers, but garden seed companies that have been in business for 50+ years. I am waiting to see if the same happens with MG seed orders.

This is really getting fucked up if the big garden seed companies are afraid to sell (or have been told not to sell by GOV?).

THANKS A LOT, NEUROSOUP!

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What I think he meant was that they charge full retail, if not more, for all their products not giving us a break in in price. I mean come the fck on, this dude is charging $65.34 for one gram of 30x salvia extract, that is fucking insane, 

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Also, I hope NeuroSoup didn't cause this, or else she's going down...I just read her story in this thread. What an idiot! ~ LogicaL Chaos ~

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I can't emphasis strongly enough that BBB nor Jon Sloan had anything to do with her moronic decisions. And we ask her to stop.

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makaveli8x8 said:
Do you have a link to this information French to verify your story?

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