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 curenado
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 Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals  [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#12132933 - 03/03/10 09:56 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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LST: "Oh well I see. And no that really is not my stance, not on the whole. A lobbyist for a pharecutical company though; yeah I pretty much call criminal, not evil.  "
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Fraggin
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: curenado]
#12133446 - 03/03/10 12:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Total Donated to Date: $3,452.00 THANK YOU!
We need $200,000.00 to fight these false charges.
Time to call Zach...
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curenado
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: Fraggin]
#12133670 - 03/03/10 01:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's about 1,200.00 more than the last time I heard. The local area newspaper that may run another update article is called the "Pitch" for any who don't know and want to google it up.
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Host1LL15
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: geokills]
#12135853 - 03/03/10 06:26 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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fucked up thing is hes getting charged with production...im not sure i remember the last time i "produced" mescaline or DMT..fuckin idiots
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curenado
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: Host1LL15]
#12136495 - 03/03/10 07:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Unless some sneaky law got passed by some (a lot of) pretty good watchdogs, I can't see how that charge could stick? I was a little puzzled at that one myself because if that were true - no more gardening.
But - just trying not to 'noid and see. That's the worst thing about these deals - it could even be months before the next piece gets played...
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: curenado]
#12136557 - 03/03/10 08:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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did you guys forget the last 10 pages? we don't know if he was or wasn't producing and extracting those drugs.
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curenado
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: makaveli8x8]
#12136671 - 03/03/10 08:15 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're right M8x8. I just took it for granted if there was a little op going on factiry girl would've told my buddy and he would have related that - guess we're back to Don't know - wait and see...
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: curenado]
#12136887 - 03/03/10 08:45 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
curenado said:
Unless some sneaky law got passed by some (a lot of) pretty good watchdogs, I can't see how that charge could stick? I was a little puzzled at that one myself because if that were true - no more gardening.
It's already been said i think, but it'll be about intent.
If you're producing cacti to be taken recreationally are you producing cacti or are you producing mescaline ?
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: curenado]
#12137135 - 03/03/10 09:21 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
curenado said:
Unless some sneaky law got passed by some (a lot of) pretty good watchdogs, I can't see how that charge could stick?
Why would it not stick? Mescaline has been illegal for awhile now.
Since you can't grow pot and you can't grow poppies and you can't grow mushrooms, I don't see what law says that you can grow mescaline and DMT?
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BlimeyGrimey
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said:
you can't grow poppies
Is that a new federal law? I thought poppies were legal to grow in most states as long as it was for ornamental purposes.
I thought the same thing applied to San Pedro, etc.
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
#12137320 - 03/03/10 09:45 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Is that a new federal law?
No. It has been illegal to grow poppies and possess poppy pods for a long time.
See http://www.erowid.org/plants/poppy/poppy_law.shtml
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makaveli8x8
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doesn't walmart sell them in the garden area i thought? poppies and san pedro?
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: makaveli8x8]
#12137413 - 03/03/10 09:58 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes. But they didn't get caught.
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BlimeyGrimey
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said:
No. It has been illegal to grow poppies and possess poppy pods for a long time.
See http://www.erowid.org/plants/poppy/poppy_law.shtml
That's funny because they have them planted at state parks and botanical gardens.
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curenado
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
#12138316 - 03/03/10 11:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah but I get what AR is saying - and yes, Arkansas is full of little old homesteads that still have little patches of poppies. I never worried about it until recently. The police discovered a bunch of them growing by some railroad tracks and accused someone of "manufacturing opium". They made a big deal of returning there until they were confident the patch wouldn't return and thought such a great big deal of themselves - people here kinda thought it was petty and stupid for "headlines".
We used to think small patches were not a problem and kind of an Arkansas thing, but now we are more cautious. I am even worried about the school gardens because nothing is sensible or safe according to history or custom when some cheap headlines and sensationalism is there to be had. Not to mention some easy money.
Not necessarily about the plants (cacti) in this case but proving intent and trying to maybe set a even more severe precedent.
You can't count on anything when a court gets involved - it can go any way and if someone thinks they have a case they have to appeal later.
You could have a perfectly harmless flower shop and then some officer take umbrage and you are not a Florist any more you are an "Opium producer...
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
#12138488 - 03/04/10 12:17 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
BlimeyGrimey said:
Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said:
No. It has been illegal to grow poppies and possess poppy pods for a long time.
See http://www.erowid.org/plants/poppy/poppy_law.shtml
That's funny because they have them planted at state parks and botanical gardens.
It's not really an enforced law, probably because it would be nearly impossible to enforce and a bunch of old ladies would end up in prison and getting high on poppy straw isnt too popular.
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: awesomebastard]
#12140692 - 03/04/10 11:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I got some of the bunk aya. ingredients. BBB was pretty brazen in its presentation of their products. I don't think the guy should be harassed or sent to prison though
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: smokescreen]
#12141235 - 03/04/10 01:10 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is a classic case of making an example of someone. We know that he was likely operating within the confines of the law as he interpreted it.
The feds do not like anyone other than a governing body to make money off of items that people consume for recreational purposes. Part of their ability to take this stance is an old moral code that makes it illegal for the government to tax anything that keeps the poor in poverty. Unfortunaltey, they have always viewed drugs and even alcohol in this light. They ommitted all of the slaughters and street wars during prohibition times by letting us have our alcohcol.
Since BBB was operating on the edge of legality, they were a good target to use as an example. Even if he is not convicted, any other herbalis/botanist/pothead that wants to make a living by selling entheogenic substances may look at the shit he went through and think twice about it.
Some things must remain under the radar to exist withing this toltarian environment.
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: Fraggin]
#12146811 - 03/05/10 05:31 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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700th in the thread, and that is all that is relevant
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: Spaced_Cowboy]
#12148628 - 03/05/10 03:18 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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