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 Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals  [Re: Cactusdan]
#12096739 - 02/25/10 06:18 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Your right--in a way. But when I feel angry I had to let it out. And also to encourage passion about this. NOT violence, but speaking out against this. It is really going on this and is brutal, barbaric, and totally and utterly wrong!
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: zzripz]
#12096867 - 02/25/10 06:40 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Read up what prison's like by a guy who was jailed for having 14 tablets of MDMA on him. Very strong stuff Exile Nation
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: BaldoSquemo]
#12096904 - 02/25/10 06:49 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Show me a law making information illegal.
The information is illegal because it shows that the plants he sold are intended for consumption.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_law.shtml
CSA
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Show me a law making ANY of the products being sold on his website illegal.
Mescaline, DMT, and 5-meo-DMT are illegal under the CSA.
Please read the CSA:
http://www.justice.gov/dea/pubs/csa.html
Once you read it, let me know if you notice any parts of the law that would allow you to have San Pedro cactus, MHRB, or toads that contain 5-meo-dmt.
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: BaldoSquemo]
#12096958 - 02/25/10 07:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
BaldoSquemo said:
makaveli8x8,
You're beating a dead horse here.
Show me a law making information illegal.
Show me a law making ANY of the products being sold on his website illegal.
And it's specifically thinking like yours, makaveli8x8, that got us here.
spores are legal, yet you don't see the shroomery selling them...why is that?
the plants are legal, and information is legal, put them together in a neat box tied with a ribbon and you have intent to manufactor the illegal drugs inside of the plants.
the ingredients for making bombs are legal, the information on making them is legal, put them together in a neat box tied with a ribbon and try selling it down by your local police station...and again tell me wtf you think will happen?
i never said i agree with any of it, so don't try and tell me my thinking is what got us here, what got us here are the people making neat little boxes with ribbons on them, all in a single attempt at cashing in on people. im not the one passing ribboned boxes around to children on the streets. everyone knows we wouldn't have half the problems if the people selling this crap actually put an age limit on the stuff instead of passing it out to anybody and everybody when we all know full well that those under a certain age are going to abuse the shit and get into all kinds of trouble.
we live in a society, but the pot heads around here fail to see that or just like to turn a blind eye to it all for profits, and in the end it just makes pot heads look worse, because all the little kids abusing it giving all the right reasons for the stuff to be illegal.
the gov regulates problems with society, thats just how it is. nobody thinks first, they just dance around the fire acting like idiots creating problems, and then get their pantys all in a bundle when the gov is forced to fix the problems.
society can't run smoothly when you have a bunch of kids tweaking out on the playground.
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: makaveli8x8]
#12096974 - 02/25/10 07:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Once again irresponsible drug users and the government overreaction outlaw relatively harmless substances because "kids" are "getting high".
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: Mchaggis]
#12098446 - 02/25/10 11:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have had enough as well. You just gotta be more calm and smart than the police.
I hardly think there is a way out of this trap we are all in.
The only solution I can think of is to leave this country which sounds like a fantastic idea to me.
Canada here I come!
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curenado
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: Psilocelium]
#12098556 - 02/25/10 11:16 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, when I was a kid we would've been really bummed  if we couldn't get high...what a drag...
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: curenado]
#12098859 - 02/26/10 12:04 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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[inappropriate post]
Edited by geokills (03/03/10 01:20 PM)
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JohnP
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: MagicJames]
#12099198 - 02/26/10 12:58 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im starting to see now how immature this is. The Government is like a bunch of parents. When will the child ever grow up in the parents eyes?
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: Psilocelium]
#12099226 - 02/26/10 01:04 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Psilocelium said:
I have had enough as well. You just gotta be more calm and smart than the police.
I hardly think there is a way out of this trap we are all in.
The only solution I can think of is to leave this country which sounds like a fantastic idea to me.
Canada here I come!
stuff white people like:
threatening to move to canada
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: JohnP]
#12099371 - 02/26/10 01:38 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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skatardude10 said:
Im starting to see now how immature this is. The Government is like a bunch of parents. When will the child ever grow up in the parents eyes?
thats what gets me man. its just pathetic. yeah the fact that i lost a reliable vendor makes it a little more upsetting but its mostly because he should not have been prosecuted for selling the plants. i dont know everything about these alleged videos supposedly linking him to directing his customers to get high (wtf shamanism?) but if he broke a law charge him.but selling legal plants on the website should not get him all those charges.
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: makaveli8x8]
#12099925 - 02/26/10 04:34 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
makaveli8x8 said:
Quote:
BaldoSquemo said:
makaveli8x8,
You're beating a dead horse here.
Show me a law making information illegal.
Show me a law making ANY of the products being sold on his website illegal.
And it's specifically thinking like yours, makaveli8x8, that got us here.
spores are legal, yet you don't see the shroomery selling them...why is that?
the plants are legal, and information is legal, put them together in a neat box tied with a ribbon and you have intent to manufactor the illegal drugs inside of the plants.
the ingredients for making bombs are legal, the information on making them is legal, put them together in a neat box tied with a ribbon and try selling it down by your local police station...and again tell me wtf you think will happen?
i never said i agree with any of it, so don't try and tell me my thinking is what got us here, what got us here are the people making neat little boxes with ribbons on them, all in a single attempt at cashing in on people. im not the one passing ribboned boxes around to children on the streets. everyone knows we wouldn't have half the problems if the people selling this crap actually put an age limit on the stuff instead of passing it out to anybody and everybody when we all know full well that those under a certain age are going to abuse the shit and get into all kinds of trouble.
we live in a society, but the pot heads around here fail to see that or just like to turn a blind eye to it all for profits, and in the end it just makes pot heads look worse, because all the little kids abusing it giving all the right reasons for the stuff to be illegal.
the gov regulates problems with society, thats just how it is. nobody thinks first, they just dance around the fire acting like idiots creating problems, and then get their pantys all in a bundle when the gov is forced to fix the problems.
society can't run smoothly when you have a bunch of kids tweaking out on the playground.
So that is what you think is going on do you? The government regulating the problems in society?
How do you work THAT out? Did you watch that video link I put out about called LEAP? What do you think of it?
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: zzripz]
#12100003 - 02/26/10 05:13 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just found this:
Unexpected and Welcome Openings toward Peace in the War on Drugs
"1. Prague – The Czech government today approved the list of hallucinogenic plants and mushrooms, including hemp, coca, mescaline cactus and magic mushrooms, and decided that people would be allowed to grow up to five pieces of such plants and keep 40 magic mushrooms at home. http://www.ceskenoviny.cz/news/zpravy/czech-govt-defines-rules-of-hallucinogenic-plants-growing/411010
Edited by zzripz (02/26/10 05:16 AM)
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: zzripz]
#12103166 - 02/26/10 06:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: zzripz]
#12103828 - 02/26/10 07:55 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
zzripz said:
Quote:
makaveli8x8 said:
Quote:
BaldoSquemo said:
makaveli8x8,
You're beating a dead horse here.
Show me a law making information illegal.
Show me a law making ANY of the products being sold on his website illegal.
And it's specifically thinking like yours, makaveli8x8, that got us here.
spores are legal, yet you don't see the shroomery selling them...why is that?
the plants are legal, and information is legal, put them together in a neat box tied with a ribbon and you have intent to manufactor the illegal drugs inside of the plants.
the ingredients for making bombs are legal, the information on making them is legal, put them together in a neat box tied with a ribbon and try selling it down by your local police station...and again tell me wtf you think will happen?
i never said i agree with any of it, so don't try and tell me my thinking is what got us here, what got us here are the people making neat little boxes with ribbons on them, all in a single attempt at cashing in on people. im not the one passing ribboned boxes around to children on the streets. everyone knows we wouldn't have half the problems if the people selling this crap actually put an age limit on the stuff instead of passing it out to anybody and everybody when we all know full well that those under a certain age are going to abuse the shit and get into all kinds of trouble.
we live in a society, but the pot heads around here fail to see that or just like to turn a blind eye to it all for profits, and in the end it just makes pot heads look worse, because all the little kids abusing it giving all the right reasons for the stuff to be illegal.
the gov regulates problems with society, thats just how it is. nobody thinks first, they just dance around the fire acting like idiots creating problems, and then get their pantys all in a bundle when the gov is forced to fix the problems.
society can't run smoothly when you have a bunch of kids tweaking out on the playground.
So that is what you think is going on do you? The government regulating the problems in society?
How do you work THAT out? Did you watch that video link I put out about called LEAP? What do you think of it?
Yes that is how its going on, i do. is that the only thing going on? no, lots of profit and jobs are created.
so you don't think kids are tweaking out on drugs do you? thats interesting, because 10-20% of my elementry school was on them. and you think kids tweaking out on drugs doesn't cause problems? problems that shouldn't be fixed?
i watched your leap video, and i see how you tried to apply it to my post, the problem is you failed to see the point of my post, and hense your video doesn't have anything at all to do with it. Your talking, or i should say your video is talking, about stopping the war on drugs, but that doesn't have anything to do with what our government is doing, which is what i was talking about. in our society, our government fixes problems, lots of problems. now im not saying they arn't corrupt, but they do fix problems.
when you see kids tweaking out on playgrounds, they think about how to fix it in our "current" society. do they fix it they way you think it should be fixed? obviously not. but what about the REST of society...the MAJORITY of society? i think yes.
so back to my point. the way to fix the problem is to blend in with society...by being responsible, respectable, etc etc. NOT acting like idiots, creating MORE problems for the rest of society...causing the rest of society to create more fixes.
if you want to stop the war on drugs great...go do it, but thats not how our current gov fixes things...so good luck.
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Edited by makaveli8x8 (02/26/10 07:59 PM)
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: makaveli8x8]
#12107504 - 02/27/10 01:45 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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So...what happened to him?
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: Jvells]
#12107589 - 02/27/10 01:58 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Still waiting to see while Shroomerites eat each other up in little pieces over Sloan, who went one step over the line and made himself a financial opportunity for LEO & Politicians at all levels.
I still think it's entirely possible that drugs nor people nor caring about anything but laying them hands on all his money may have been the entire motive.
I have a hard time thinking they care about anyone at all - he had a gob of cash and someone had a chance to seize it up Yum!
Meanwhile, people who do give a damn and have stood for rights and people are in ferment and going after each other like barracuda fish in a guppy pond and while we wait to see what actually becomes of it people are smacking people up and down because they have a thing to say or because they just want to vent - hopefully, most have had a chance to adjust to the shock now and better understand where each other are coming from and we won't have to re-name this thread "Shroomerite Bar Brawl" or "Bash Yer Buddy Thread!" and move it to the Romper Room.
People, if it's this easy to get you us at each other, what will they think of next?
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Edited by curenado (02/27/10 02:04 PM)
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One of the feds asked me about the toads: “Why do they want them?” “Why do people want a piranha or exotic fish or a snake? All kinds of reasons. They are not illegal.” “Do they lick them?” “Lick them? Are you serious? I suppose they could lick them, but they'd be morons – they'll get salmonella.” “Where do you get them?” “We buy them from a pet store.
Well, sir, we're not not licking toads...
Sheesh, and our taxdollars pay for this???
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Fuck the feds. Stop making plants illegal while shoving pharmaceuticals down our throats... Anal leakage, depression, and stroke aren't in the list of side affects of any of the naturally occurring "drugs" they want to keep us using.
Just listen to the list of side affects after the next new heart/kidney/penis medicine comes out. It makes me sick that the people who make this chemical shit run our country. (It's true! Big Pharma has more than 2 lobbyists for every single congressman, and is currently running the most profitable industry in the world!)
Too bad they don't make a pill for that. Give me back my goddamn rights you fat, moustached fucks.
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curenado
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Bouncing Bear Botanicals [Re: scienceguy] 1
#12112226 - 02/28/10 11:26 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah - OK - gotta kinda back the above. Check this:
The data below speaks for itself.
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Celebrex: 100 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets): $130.27
Cost of general active ingredients: $ 0.60
Percent markup: 21,712%
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Claritin: 1 0 mg
Consumer Price (100 tablets): $215.17
Cost of general active ingredients: $0.71
Percent markup: 30,306%
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Keflex: 250 mg
Consumer Price (100 tablets): $157.39
Cost of general active ingredients: $1.88
Percent markup: 8,372%
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Lipitor: 20 mg
Consumer Price (100 tablets): $272.37
Cost of general active ingredients: $5.80
Percent markup: 4,696%
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Norvasc:
Consumer Price (100 tablets) $232.13
10 mg Cost of general active ingredients: $0.14
Percent markup: 134,493%
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Paxil: 20 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets): $220.27
Cost of general active ingredients: $7.60
Percent markup: 2,898%
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Prevacid: 30 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets): $44.77
Cost of general active ingredients: $1.01
Percent markup: 34,136%
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Prilosec: 20 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets): $360.97
Cost of general active ingredients $0.52
Percent markup: 69,417%
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Prozac: 20 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets) : $247.47
Cost of general active ingredients: $0.11
Percent markup: 224,973%
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Tenormin: 50 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets): $104.47
Cost of general active ingredients: $0.13
Percent markup: 80,362%
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Vasotec: 10 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets): $102.37
Cost of general active ingredients: $0.20
Percent markup: 51,185%
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Xanax: 1 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets) : $136.79
Cost of general active ingredients: $0.024
Percent markup: 569,958%
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Zestril: 20 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets) $89.89
Cost of general active ingredients $3.20
Percent markup: 2,809
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Zithromax: 600 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets): $1,482.19
Cost of general active ingredients: $18.78
Percent markup: 7,892%
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Zocor: /B 40 mg
Consumer price (100 tablets): $350.27
Cost of general active ingredients: $8.63
Percent markup: 4,059%
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Zoloft: 50 mg
Consumer price: $206.87
Cost of general active ingredients: $1.75
Percent markup: 11,821%
What organic drug producer is gouging like that?
Pulled it from http://www.mushroomsfmrc.com/gpage8.html
There's a whole article about it there...
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