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 Kickle
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 Re: Meditation! [Re: tiptop]
#12333028 - 04/04/10 11:19 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alright, this is it, session 8. The final session in therapy. I will try to continue posting side links and additional information in this thread for those interested, but in terms of information from the therapy itself, this is it. It's important to note that the therapy, really, is not what I post though. The therapy is in your active participation in the meditative process. The more active you are, the more therapeutic it becomes. So just because the instructions are coming to an end, doesn't mean the healing is done.
I strongly encourage everyone who has seen benefits to continue practicing. Be it through yoga, sitting, observing your breath, or just trying to be aware throughout your day. Please do continue to take the time and continue these efforts.
And, without further ado,
Session 8 Summary
The advantages of awareness, acceptance, and mindfully responding to situations rather than immediately running off preprogrammed, “automatic” reactions has been a recurring theme throughout this course.
Acceptance may often be the springboard to some form of skillful action directed at achieving change in participants' inner or outer worlds. However, there are some situations and feelings that it may be very difficult, or actually impossible, to change. In this situation, there is the danger that, by carrying on, trying to solve an insoluble problem, or by refusing to accept the reality of the situation one is in, one may end up “banging one's head on a brick wall,” exhausting oneself, and actually increasing one's sense of helplessness and depression. In these situations, you can still retain some sense of dignity and control by making a conscious, mindful, decision not to attempt to exert control and to accept the situation as it is, and if possible, with a kindly attitude to the situation and your reactions to it. Choosing not to act is much less likely to increase feelings of helplessness than being forced to give up after repeated failures is.
In the so-called “Serenity Prayer,” we ask for the grace to accept with serenity the things that cannot be changed, the courage to change the things that should be changed, and the wisdom to distinguish one from the other.
Where do we find this grace, this courage, this wisdom? At some level, we already have all of these qualities—our task is to realize them (make them real), and our way is none other than moment-by-moment mindful awareness.
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Kickle
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Re: Meditation! [Re: Kickle]
#12333035 - 04/04/10 11:21 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Future
Jon Kabat-Zinn gives advice to weave your parachute every day, rather than to leave it to the time you have to jump from the plane!
Decide, right now, what your regular pattern of practice will be over the next weeks, and stick to it as best you can. Also, remember that the breathing space provides a way to check in with yourself through out the day. Let it be your first response in times of difficulty, stress, or unhappiness—KEEP BREATHING!
Daily Mindfulness
- When you first wake up in the morning, before you get out of bed, bring your attention to your breathing. Observe five mindful breaths.
- Notice changes in your posture. Be aware of how your body and mind feel when you move from lying down to sitting, to standing, to walking. Notice each time you make a transition from one posture to the next.
- Whenever you hear a phone ring, a bird sing, a train pass by, laughter, a car horn, the wind, the sound of a door closing—use any sound as the bell of mindfulness. Really listen and be present and awake.
- Throughout the day, take a few moments to bring your attention to your breathing. Observe five mindful breaths.
- Whenever you eat or drink something, take a minute and breath. Look at your food and realize that the food was connected to something that nourished its growth. Can you see the sunlight, the rain, the earth, the farmer, the trucker in your food? Pay attention as you eat, consciously consuming this food for your physical health. Bring awareness to seeing your food, smelling your food, tasting your food, chewing your food, and swallowing your food.
- Notice your body while you stand or walk. Take a moment to notice your posture. Pay attention to the contact of the ground under your feet. Feel the air on your face, arms, and legs as you walk. Are you rushing?
- Bring awareness to listening and talking. Can you listen without agreeing or disagreeing, liking or disliking, or planning what you will say when it is your turn? When talking, can you just say what you need to say without overstating or understating? Can you notice how your mind and body feel?
- Whenever you wait in line, use this time to notice standing and breathing. Feel the contact of your feet on the floor and how your body feels. Bring attention to the rise and fall of your abdomen. Are you feeling impatient?
- Be aware of any points of tightness in your body throughout the day. See if you can breath into them and, as you exhale, let go of excess tension. Is there tension stores anywhere in your body? For example, your neck, shoulders, stomach, jaw, or lower back? If possible, stretch or do yoga once a day.
- Focus attention on your daily activities such as brushing your teeth, washing up, brushing your hair; putting on your shoes, doing your job. Bring mindfulness to each activity.
- Before you go to sleep at night, take a few minutes to bring your attention to your breathing. Observe five mindful breaths.
Fin
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LustfulLinsanity
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Re: Meditation! [Re: Kickle]
#12370738 - 04/10/10 11:45 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have a question, is it possible to "get high" from, and/or have psychedlic experiences without any sort of drug during meditation?
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  I wish to become enlightened, to know bliss, to be a pure expression of joy, to slake my insatiable thirst.
But tomorrow i will continue to propagate the pointless and divine cycle of human birth/death and probly get as fucked up as i can.
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Kickle
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Technically speaking, it's possible for certain individuals to enter into what psychologists refer to as deep sleep (brain function in the delta waves) without ever falling asleep. I have a feeling that such an experience is one you don't return the same from.
Edited by Kickle (04/11/10 10:24 PM)
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Kickle
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Re: Meditation! [Re: Kickle]
#12441370 - 04/22/10 10:57 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Edited by Kickle (05/12/10 11:09 AM)
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MoreChellasPlease
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This is a very cool thread, I look forward to putting some of it into practice. For some reason I haven't made the time to meditate, even though I remember it being such a rewarding experience.
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MoreChellasPlease
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Re: Meditation! [Re: Kickle]
#12505564 - 05/04/10 01:40 PM (2 years, 26 days ago) |
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Also, I was wondering if anyone ever experiences a buzzing sound while meditating? It starts small but seems to shake my body, and will slowly fade out as I come out of meditating.
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Grapefruit
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Re: Meditation! [Re: Kickle]
#12515951 - 05/06/10 09:32 AM (2 years, 24 days ago) |
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Quote:
Kickle said:
Technically speaking, it's possible for certain individuals to enter into what psychologists refer to as deep sleep (brain function in the delta waves) without ever falling asleep. I have a feeling that such an experience is one you don't return the same from.
I had a sorta dissociative like trip from meditation a couple times and they really weren't all that enlightening. Psychedelics win for tripping. 
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Kickle
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What was the dissociation like?
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 The Chronic
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Re: Meditation! [Re: Kickle]
#12548378 - 05/12/10 11:08 AM (2 years, 18 days ago) |
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Quote:
Kickle said:
http://www.interactivebuddha.com/Mastering%20Adobe%20Version.pdf
Mastering the Core Teachings of the Buddha
c0Sm0 would you be kind enough to post a link to that Sri Ramana Maharishi book in this thread?
Cosmo must missed this post, here you go though...
www.beasyouare.info/beasyouare.pdf
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Kickle
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thanks Chronic!
I just edited that post 
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The Chronic
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Re: Meditation! [Re: Kickle]
#12548408 - 05/12/10 11:14 AM (2 years, 18 days ago) |
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Ramanas having a good old laugh i bet
The version i posted is an online version anyway, not a scan of the book like your link (im assuming)
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The Chronic
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Re: Meditation! [Re: Kickle]
#12548463 - 05/12/10 11:30 AM (2 years, 18 days ago) |
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Yeah, it worked out functionally and I got an LOL
Speaking ofit working out functionally, anyone downloading these books or for anyone who has them , yourself, cosmo...
The link i posted is a searchable pdf, which can help if your looking for ramana adressing something like 'free will'
The other link is a straight scan of the book, so no searching possible
Im glad i just now found that other link as in the past i had a folder of all Ramanas books on pdf and i was searching the lot for quotes on a particular subject, that unsearchable scanned version of 'be as you are' had quotes in there i knew i wanted that weren't in any other books, such as...
"Only if one knows the truth of love, which is the real nature of Self, will the strong entangled knot of life be untied. Only if one attains the height of love will liberation be attained. Such is the heart of all religions. The experience of Self is only love, which is seeing only love, hearing only love, feeling only love, tasting only love and smelling only love, which is bliss."
I truly feel that in a hundreds of years the world will look back on Ramana as one of the greatest Sages
I am biased as he never fails to silence me, but i also see loads of self inquiry teachers who are ruling the spiritual circles nowadays
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Grapefruit
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Re: Meditation! [Re: Kickle]
#12554419 - 05/13/10 09:09 AM (2 years, 17 days ago) |
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Quote:
Kickle said:
What was the dissociation like?
Visuals like colourful fractal type butterflys and an extreme feeling of peace, nothing like psychs tho.
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MOTH
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I'm getting back into a routine of meditation after months of not doing it at all except during savasana in yoga. But yesterday after my practice I went upstairs to my room and sat down for 10 minutes in stillness and silence.
I feel like 10 minutes 2x a day is a good place to start for now. I felt great afterward!
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Kickle
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Re: Meditation! [Re: MOTH]
#12555902 - 05/13/10 02:03 PM (2 years, 17 days ago) |
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Just had a nice little exercise courtesy of my better half.
Meditation That Tickles
While being tickled I decided to see what that sensation really is.
I observed the feeling of being tickled by hair,
by feet, by hands, and even by mouth and elbow.
As I examined it more and more, the less I laughed.
The sensation of being tickled was no longer something that compelled me to action.
It wasn't uncontrollable, it was pure sensation without anything connecting it to a reaction.
I think of the practice of not scratching an itch when meditating.
I never followed that practice. But this allowed me to see the value of it.
To really examine what an itch is, not to give your power to it.
Edited by Kickle (05/13/10 02:15 PM)
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Re: Meditation! [Re: Kickle]
#12676934 - 06/03/10 03:56 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Wow great thread, I would love to give this a go! Too bad I couldn't be there from the start but I will definatly give this therapy a go and keep you updated! Hopefully this will help me to put mediation into my life even more so!
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Re: Meditation! [Re: Kickle]
#12681100 - 06/03/10 07:34 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Kickle said:
Just had a nice little exercise courtesy of my better half.
Meditation That Tickles
While being tickled I decided to see what that sensation really is.
I observed the feeling of being tickled by hair,
by feet, by hands, and even by mouth and elbow.
As I examined it more and more, the less I laughed.
The sensation of being tickled was no longer something that compelled me to action.
It wasn't uncontrollable, it was pure sensation without anything connecting it to a reaction.
I think of the practice of not scratching an itch when meditating.
I never followed that practice. But this allowed me to see the value of it.
To really examine what an itch is, not to give your power to it.
i find the best way to combat pain is to actually explore it, when focus'd on by a sharp mind it seems less like pain and more like information....sensation
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seylm
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Re: Meditation! [Re: husk]
#12793578 - 06/23/10 08:45 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for this thread, it has helped me a lot! I only have the audio files for weeks 1+2, the rest of the download links are "404 - file not found". Could someone please upload them and post the links?
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Kickle
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Re: Meditation! [Re: seylm]
#12795554 - 06/24/10 08:29 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Ah, thanks a lot of letting me know! I'll check out the links and re-upload whatever is missing.
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