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shroomed
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1200 Micrograms - pleased to meet you all.
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 Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery
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You're a hefty dose.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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1200 Micrograms
shroomed
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I like the underlying meaning behind your statement, Ice. 
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[quote]Oweyervishice said:
[quote]Icelander said:
What is at the bottom of it?[/quote]
Death anxiety? :flirt:[/quote]
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Simms
Fuckwit
 
Registered: 11/17/08
Posts: 1,012
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 Re: Who Are You? [Re: Veritas]
#11794459 - 01/09/10 04:34 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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1. What was your upbringing? Did your family have money? Were they religious? Did they discuss philosophy and/or spirituality with you?
In my early childhood, we were an average family. But when I was in 4'th grade or so, my father lost his job and this was the beginning of poor life. I used to get regular food money daily from my mom, who still works in a same factory on a same job to this day. I never used the money for food, I collected it, that was only pocketmoney I had. So I ate once or sometimes twice a day, always feeling thirsty and tired.
One day my father died, to this day I wonder if this was an accident or not and deep down it haunts me. I feel somehwhat guilty.
Everybody in my family is baptised, but we were never religious. Father didn't believe in anything and mother is kind of spiritualist. We had free will and quite free upbringing.
2. How was your educational experience? Did you enjoy school? Were you academically-oriented, or disinterested? How much of your education has found application in your daily life?
In my early childhood I feared what would happen when I go to school. When that day happened, it wasn't bad afterall, I did fine. But to my surprise, people there were totally different, I hated it. I didn't understand any of the stuff people did, I desperately tried to fit in, and it ruined my grades at some point.
There were times I was picked on, then I thought them a lesson. Some girls hit on me but I didn't feel any interest, partially because I was a poor sack, didn't have any money. Although I had very big sexual interest already in a more younger age, I don't remember if I even was to school yet.
With this mentality, I sort of distanced myself from people. In ninth grade, I rarely talked to anyone, was a sociopath and felt extremely nervous when I had to express my own opinion.
Nothing interested happened in high school. Now I am in college, studying art. Been drawing since little boy. I know I am on the right path but not sure if I have made all the right choices. Right now I feel I wan't to do something else.
3. What career interests you? Are you working in this career now? Do you feel satisfied in your work, or is it mainly a paycheck job? What work would you do if you did not have to earn money?
Media. I study it. But I discovered it really doesn't interest me as much as traditional art. Right now all I got to be is some sack sitting in the office creating advertises for big corporations, telling people to buy buy buy all the useless shit they don't need.
I am yet to graduate in few years, so I don't have a career yet.
I would gladly paint, and do computer art, game enviornments.
4. Has your philosophy/spirituality changed much over the years? Have you had epiphanies or rude awakenings which led you to reconsider your beliefs/values? At what age did you first become interested in philosophy/spirituality?
I have always been interested, as long as I remember. I am always interested how things work around me, I need to understand things, because somehow I have always felt that I don't understand any of this world. Why do people need to do things they do, how one sees the world, even in physical aspect.
5. What are your core values? How are these values expressed in your daily life? Do you feel that your values are similar or dissimilar to those of the majority?
Mind is a powerful thing. Person must have control over his own life and death, over his own values. Never judge too soon. Someone should ask me yesd/no questions at this point, because I don't have any particular rule how things should be.
Anarchy popped into my mind when I was 10 or something. Now its more about Utopian society, since anarchy is very abstract term.
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Edited by Simms (01/09/10 04:37 AM)
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Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Simms]
#11794465 - 01/09/10 04:42 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Welcome here!
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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dummy
I am you and what I see is me
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Simms]
#11852169 - 01/18/10 09:20 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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1. What was your upbringing? Did your family have money? Were they religious? Did they discuss philosophy and/or spirituality with you?
i was born in soviet russian and immigrated as a jewish refugee in the early 90s (score!). i was very young when we got here. my parents came up from being dirt poor and we eventually moved out of the projects into a pretty balling house. my parents are both scientists and it rubbed off on me. i didn't start to be interested in philosophy until i learned in college how little our sciences can tell us about ourselves and how insightful philosophy is.
2. How was your educational experience? Did you enjoy school? Were you academically-oriented, or disinterested? How much of your education has found application in your daily life?
i've always been a pretty poor student yet everyone tells me i'm smart. 4-10 grade i did nothing in school and averaged 1.8 gpa. in 11th grade i was sent to military school and the effort i exerted there got me into university. the first couple years i did the bare minimum and my gpa reflected it. but now i've gotten used to the idea that if i don't get this diploma i won't be taken seriously in my society so i've been doing pretty damn good lately. i study mechanical engineering btw.
i can't apply my education to my daily life, but i appreciate the insights it has given me with respect to physics and chemistry.
i have a couple years of study left. after which i'll work as an engineer for a little while to save up money for the peace corps or engineers without borders and do some traveling for a good cause. after this i don't know... maybe go to school for philosophy or something. i just don't want to be trapped in a 9-5 wearing a monkey suit. i'd rather spend the rest of my time on this planet in school.
3. What career interests you? Are you working in this career now? Do you feel satisfied in your work, or is it mainly a paycheck job? What work would you do if you did not have to earn money?
would like to apply my skills to a humanitarian effort. i don't need/want to make money to save up for a bull shit house/family in america.
4. Has your philosophy/spirituality changed much over the years? Have you had epiphanies or rude awakenings which led you to reconsider your beliefs/values? At what age did you first become interested in philosophy/spirituality?
drastically, and the shroomery has been a great aid in that. before i took philosophy in school i never gave the subject much thought. philosophy got me interested, DMT changed my life. the last few years have been transformative to say the least.
5. What are your core values? How are these values expressed in your daily life? Do you feel that your values are similar or dissimilar to those of the majority?
been a good person. love and be real. if you can't be real to yourself, you can't be real to anyone else. change starts from within.
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Don't be afraid to tell your friends that your hurt inside. Pains part of life, don't hide behind your false pride; its a lie, your lie.
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Pandorok
Hu Man
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: dummy]
#11876247 - 01/21/10 09:54 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Whatever we are, we are the same. Everything else is ego and illusion.
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Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Pandorok]
#11877076 - 01/22/10 04:48 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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says you
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Pandorok
Hu Man
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When asked the question, "Who are you?" One cannot give a different answer without it being ego. That's why I said, "Whatever we are, we are the same."
By the inquiry "Who am I?" It should then be inquired "To whom has this thought arisen?". The answer that would emerge would be "To me”. Thereupon if one inquires "Who am I?", the mind will go back to its source; and the thought that arose will become quiescent. With repeated practice in this manner, the mind will develop the skill to stay in its source. When the mind that is subtle goes out through the brain and the sense organs, the gross names and forms appear.
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MushroomTrip
Dr. Teasy Thighs
 
Registered: 12/02/05
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Pandorok]
#11878093 - 01/22/10 09:57 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
It should then be inquired "To whom has this thought arisen?".
no.
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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
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Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery
Registered: 03/15/05
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Pandorok]
#11878327 - 01/22/10 10:37 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Pandorok said:
When asked the question, "Who are you?" One cannot give a different answer without it being ego. That's why I said, "Whatever we are, we are the same."
By the inquiry "Who am I?" It should then be inquired "To whom has this thought arisen?". The answer that would emerge would be "To me”. Thereupon if one inquires "Who am I?", the mind will go back to its source; and the thought that arose will become quiescent. With repeated practice in this manner, the mind will develop the skill to stay in its source. When the mind that is subtle goes out through the brain and the sense organs, the gross names and forms appear.
Get off the high horse preacher.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Lion
Decadent Flower Magnate
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Quote:
MushroomTrip said:
Quote:
It should then be inquired "To whom has this thought arisen?".
no.
Why not? 
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stereolab
zig zag wanderer
Registered: 06/08/09
Posts: 940
Loc: NY
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Lion]
#11881679 - 01/22/10 07:20 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Finally decided to respond, I'm super bored... hopefully someone will read it.
1. What was your upbringing? Did your family have money? Were they religious? Did they discuss philosophy and/or spirituality with you?
Middle class white people. They were Christian when I was younger (forget which specific Jesus cult), and I went to church, but now they're not as serious about it. They didn't really discuss these topics with me, at least as I can remember, but they answered my questions and have given me good advice.
2. How was your educational experience? Did you enjoy school? Were you academically-oriented, or disinterested? How much of your education has found application in your daily life?
I absolutely loathed high school. I didn't really "fit in" but I did hang out with some stoners/video game nerds. I slacked off but managed to get into college thanks to a pretty nice SAT score. Now I am a sophomore in college, majoring in psychology minoring in philosophy, and I'm excited for what the future might hold for me.
3. What career interests you? Are you working in this career now? Do you feel satisfied in your work, or is it mainly a paycheck job? What work would you do if you did not have to earn money?
Hmm, I'd like to be a guidance councilor or a social worker, but really I dunno. These jobs aren't really ideal, but I'd be content with them. My ideal job... hmm, probably research of some sort, especially with psychedelics (working for MAPS would be a dream) but I don't think it will happen unless I go to grad school which I'm unsure of at the moment.
4. Has your philosophy/spirituality changed much over the years? Have you had epiphanies or rude awakenings which led you to reconsider your beliefs/values? At what age did you first become interested in philosophy/spirituality?
I've always been somewhat interested in philosophy and spirituality. Seeing "the big picture" and how everything is inter-related. I didn't really get serious into philosophy until the end of high school, spirituality at the beginning of college. I am an agnostic at heart, but I do believe in the power of language and education to breathe life into subjective values/belief that makes it radiate true (or true enough). I'm quite influenced from the Buddhist values and philosophies, especially Zen Buddhism which emphasizes experiential-meditative, rather than dogmatic, knowledge. I also am somewhat of an existentialist, believing that the essence of life is subjective and does not precede existence. I think this goes with the Buddhist idea of "emptiness", but I see nothing wrong with projecting inherent value in certain concepts/general phenomena (nature, love and compassion, mindfulness, etc. - although these are central to Buddhism despite the underlying idea of emptiness). I've been meditating for about a year now, maybe a bit longer, and I've been trying to start a yoga routine although I think I need more lessons first. I'd love to travel around the world some day (hell, I'd be blessed to travel within my state and surrounding states for a while), gain more self-knowledge, eventually settle down, etc. etc.
5. What are your core values? How are these values expressed in your daily life? Do you feel that your values are similar or dissimilar to those of the majority?
I don't believe in god as a separate deity, but my concept of god is basically synonymous with "everything." So for this, I'm somewhat of a pantheist, who believe nature either is god or a manifestation of part of god. Since I'm agnostic, I think it's very likely that there is a lot of stuff, on a large and minute scale, that we cannot begin to comprehend, perhaps other universes or parallel universes and such. I believe in the beauty, intelligence, and power of nature and think humans should be much more conscious of nature, as it is our True Mother and we cannot live without her. I also believe that all drugs should either be legalized or decriminalized. I think there needs to be radical worldwide political change and a greater effort to reduce patriotism and increase transnational compassion. I think for this reason, I might be considered "extreme". I'm definitely a libertarian, and I think social democracy - or at least some balance between socialism and capitalism - should be strived for. I hope that in a hundred years or so, my "extremeness" will be the norm, or even considered conservative! Who knows, though.
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The spiritual revolution
starts inside.
Edited by stereolab (01/22/10 07:23 PM)
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JBrad
Stranger
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1. What was your upbringing? Did your family have money? Were they religious? Did they discuss philosophy and/or spirituality with you?
Well my parents split when I was two, and I was raised primarily by my mother for the next twelve years. We didn't have a lot of money but we had a roof over our heads and food on the table. She got remarried when i was 7 which lasted 3 years, and produced my sister and since she has had several boyfriends. I have been confirmed in a catholic church, however the main reason I did it was because my mom said i wouldn't have to go to church anymore. I have abandoned the catholic church in search of my own truths although I sometimes help them out because I really like the priest there. We never discussed that sort of stuff in my early child hood, but my mother has recently become more spiritual, and a lot less catholic.
2. How was your educational experience? Did you enjoy school? Were you academically-oriented, or disinterested? How much of your education has found application in your daily life?
Well I graduated high school a couple years ago and went into journalism without thinking about it because my writing was decent. I realized early in the first semester that this was a bad idea. Then on new years during that Christmas break i took LSD for the first time and i realized these types of chemicals hold a lot of potential so i took the rest of the year off so i didn't waste anymore of my parents money, and now I'm back in high school getting all my grade 12 science credits and next year I'm going to start studying chemistry. In short, I want to be Alexander Shulgin when i grow up.
3. What career interests you? Are you working in this career now? Do you feel satisfied in your work, or is it mainly a paycheck job? What work would you do if you did not have to earn money?
I don't have a career. I don't even have a job. I just moved back to my mom's house and I've been looking since we got here. Before i made this decision i sold and delivered TVs. If i dint have to earn money, I'd want to do the exact same thing I'm on my way to now. Money doesn't influence my choice of profession. If you find our element, your element will support you, that is to say, if you do what you love, you care enough to be good at it, and if you're good at it, someone will pay you for it.
4. Has your philosophy/spirituality changed much over the years? Have you had epiphanies or rude awakenings which led you to reconsider your beliefs/values? At what age did you first become interested in philosophy/spirituality?
Well, when I was fourteen, my mom kicked me out and sent me to my dad's, where i had to go to a catholic high school. It was there that i started to question my beliefs, and realized i had none.I really think it's too bad religion and spirituality is kept completely out of public schools. I can understand why, but if we don't teach the children about these things they wont understand them, which will lead to more of what we have now. High school philosophy class was cool and started to get me actually thinking about stuff, but after doing LSD i really got into the spiritual side of myself a lot more.
5. What are your core values? How are these values expressed in your daily life? Do you feel that your values are similar or dissimilar to those of the majority?
I think my core value would be live and let live. I think interfering in some body's life on purpose isn't right although I'll answer all questions and defend my lifestyle if need be. I never try to force people to do things that i like, but I'll offer and if they get offended or look at me like i want them to kill some one i just ask why. I never turn my back on anything i dint understand for fear of missing out on something great. I am interested in nearly everything.
I'm still not sure on the god ting, but i am definitely opposed to organized religion, especially radicalized religion.
I am a communist.
In my current situation, I am very much the minority, and within my family it seems like it even more, with the exception of my mother (thank goodness for her). But I know there are people like me, open minded and free spirited. It's a shame that it has to be a counter culture.
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Icelander
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: JBrad]
#11890600 - 01/24/10 10:20 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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All good! Welcome
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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MarkostheGnostic
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Re: Who Are You? [Re: Pandorok]
#11913540 - 01/27/10 05:12 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pandorok said:
When asked the question, "Who are you?" One cannot give a different answer without it being ego. That's why I said, "Whatever we are, we are the same."
By the inquiry "Who am I?" It should then be inquired "To whom has this thought arisen?". The answer that would emerge would be "To me”. Thereupon if one inquires "Who am I?", the mind will go back to its source; and the thought that arose will become quiescent. With repeated practice in this manner, the mind will develop the skill to stay in its source. When the mind that is subtle goes out through the brain and the sense organs, the gross names and forms appear.
I guess you just realized that not everyone is a fan of Sri Ramana Maharshi. I however, am partial to Advaita, but I'm more of a Panentheistic Non-Dualist (don't look it up - I made the term up for myself just to be unique)  .
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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Sauton - Know Thyself
Edited by MarkostheGnostic (01/27/10 07:02 PM)
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Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery
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This thread was designed for people to get to know each other as separate egos. If you are so fucking egotistical about your beliefs that you can't get that, well that's just funny.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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MarkostheGnostic
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Well, thank you. It was supposed to be funny. 
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