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Re: alkaloid production post veil breakage [Re: Pinback]
    #11815381 - 01/12/10 02:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

that study is not a good basis for when are they most potent gram for gram cuz you would have to use an isolate in a controlled lab setting to get reliable measurements of the actives for comparison.

those were random wild grown azures so genetics puts too many factors in to be super accurate but none the less what is stated is what I believe to be true also.  then again I have zero lab equipment to base/factualize my theories on. :stoned:


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Re: alkaloid production post veil breakage [Re: 13shrooms]
    #11819803 - 01/13/10 01:20 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Agreed, but it is the best basis available today.

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Re: alkaloid production post veil breakage [Re: Pinback]
    #11819964 - 01/13/10 02:16 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Agreed so far.

One thing that wasn't mentioned yet, is the oxidation of alkaloids while the fruits are still attached to the mushroom i.e. haven't been picked yet.

I noticed, that older specimens of both, Psilocybe cubensis and Psilocybe cyanescens -while being about the same weight- seem less potent than younger specimens.

Though being highly subjective, because I didn't have any possibility to really test the potency accurately in a lab, but only by consuming them and listen to the reports of people around me, there's a more or less clear pattern visible! It sure could be, that we just fell for different genetics etc., but this would be rather unlikely.

This difference in potency was much more noticeable when it came to Psilocybe cyanescens, that take much longer to mature, than Cubes do. So the time they were in contact with oxygen was much longer.

This was, by the way, meant as a kind of experiment, so we stuck to fruits of the same flush and patch.
Now, this doesn't mean there are no differences in potency, but it's the best we could do. (The tests with Cubes probably don't really count, because I didn't have too many grows that were uneven enough, so that we could test younger and older mushrooms of the same flush and weight!).

When it comes to cultivated Cubes, this issue is probably to neglect, but with wood loving species, this seems to be heavy factor in terms of potency.

Still I'm a "Warrior for the concerns of immature fruits of wood loving mushrooms"!
Just because pins are more potent by weight, you get about the same or even a bigger amount of active alkaloids, when you let the fruits mature properly, while at the same time supporting the spreading of spores! So let them grow to full size, before you pick them! (I just had to say this one more time:stoned:)

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