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deCypher said:
"Son," he said without preamble, "never trust a man who doesn't drink because he's probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They're the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They're usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they're a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can't trust a man who's afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how to survive himself. It's damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he's heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl."
--James Crumley

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deCypher said:
"Son," he said without preamble, "never trust a man who doesn't drink because he's probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They're the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They're usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they're a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can't trust a man who's afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how to survive himself. It's damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he's heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl."
--James Crumley

I didn't reform, I lost my nerve.  I still think it's sensible to want money and if you want money it has to be sensible to go where they have it and make them give you some.
--Al Nussbaum, bank robber.

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RationalEgo said:
You forget that without Britain, India would still be a backward, caste system driven hellhole.

Oh and BTW, Ghandi, the famous 'liberator' of India, was an outright racist.

Sir Winston was NOT!

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RationalEgo said:
You forget that without Britain, India would still be a backward, caste system driven hellhole.

Oh and BTW, Ghandi, the famous 'liberator' of India, was an outright racist.

Sir Winston was NOT!

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learningtofly said:

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RationalEgo said:
You forget that without Britain, India would still be a backward, caste system driven hellhole.

Oh and BTW, Ghandi, the famous 'liberator' of India, was an outright racist.

Sir Winston was NOT!

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While Ghandi was a racist how is that relevant to his accomplishments?

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yelyarb said:
"I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."

Winston Churchill, 1937

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fuck... That man was a leader?
Yeah! we wont last long.