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Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food)
    #11736049 - 12/29/09 09:12 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Chaga is supposed to have the highest antioxidant ORAC score for any natural food. Are there any guides on how to grow it around? I couldn't find anything in the search or google.


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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: sansa]
    #11736067 - 12/29/09 09:23 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm, I found this:

http://www.sayanhealth.com/health/what-is-chaga.htm

"Chaga takes 5 to 7 years to grow, and is very rare. Chaga cannot be farmed, so Sayan uses wild-harvested Chaga that is hand-picked in the depth of the Siberian taiga, where the temperatures are below -40°F at least five months a year!"

Is that accurate?


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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: sansa]
    #11736353 - 12/29/09 11:34 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

why do you post this is mush cult ?


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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: Thyrax]
    #11736362 - 12/29/09 11:40 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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why do you post this is mush cult ?




because its a mushroom.


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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: usudor]
    #11736527 - 12/29/09 12:29 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I would like to know this as-well...

By the way im going searching for them in the spring.:wink:


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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: psychedelicSLUG]
    #11736576 - 12/29/09 12:42 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

You can grow Inonotus obliquus (chaga) in liquid culture.  It's commercially farmed in this way.  You can order it dried and powdered from aloha medicinals.
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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: psychedelicSLUG]
    #11736578 - 12/29/09 12:42 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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You can grow chaga in liquid culture.  It IS commercially farmed in this way.  You can order it dried and powdered from aloha medicinals.
RR




Is that a way to get the same effects as the full mushroom but without waiting 5 years? If you grow an LC, would you take the mycelium and use that in the tea by itself?


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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: sansa]
    #11736590 - 12/29/09 12:47 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I enjoy Woodland Essence Chaga.

Plus Inonotus obliquus grows all over North America.:grin:


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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #11736605 - 12/29/09 12:49 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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You can order it dried and powdered from aloha medicinals.
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Would the aloha strain be significantly better than this place? These guys have it for 13.96EUR

http://www.magicmushrooms.org/shop/inonotus-obliquus-chaga-spawndowels-p-433.html


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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: sansa]
    #11736617 - 12/29/09 12:51 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I wouldn't have a clue if it's better or not.  We still have about ten pounds of chaga powder in the lab refrigerator that came from aloha. 

That's a great price for a culture and they're a shroomery vendor(plus they sell my DVD so consider them plugged. :wink: ).  I'd order it and inoculate some hardwood trees.  In my area it grows on Aspens.  You'll have to find a suitable host tree in your area.
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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #11736640 - 12/29/09 12:58 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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I wouldn't have a clue if it's better or not.  We still have about ten pounds of chaga powder in the lab refrigerator that came from aloha. 

That's a great price for a culture.  I'd order it and inoculate some hardwood trees.  In my area it grows on Aspens.  You'll have to find a suitable host tree in your area.
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Im diggin' that idea...


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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #11736644 - 12/29/09 12:59 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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I wouldn't have a clue if it's better or not.  We still have about ten pounds of chaga powder in the lab refrigerator that came from aloha. 

That's a great price for a culture.  I'd order it and inoculate some hardwood trees.  In my area it grows on Aspens.  You'll have to find a suitable host tree in your area.
RR



Can you expand a bit more on how to get a usable product just from LC?

For instance, would you use agar's grain LC tek to get mycelium water then let that grow a few days and then use it in a tea or something?


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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: sansa]
    #11737683 - 12/29/09 04:05 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Yes.  The mycelium has the same benefits as the fruitbody.  Grow it any way you can and then strain off the liquid from your mycelium and dry.  Consume with food or stuff into capsules.
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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #11739828 - 12/29/09 10:46 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Can you do that for any mushroom? Reishi and shiitake for instance?

If someone just drank myc water from cubes would that be as potent as eating the fruits?


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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: sansa]
    #11739880 - 12/29/09 10:57 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

The medicinal benefits of most mushrooms is present in the mycelium.  However, cubensis produces very little psilocybin until fruit formation.
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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #11740164 - 12/29/09 11:46 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

That's extremely cool and saves enormous amounts of time! That might be a good tip for your next set of videos!


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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19876887 - 04/21/14 08:12 AM (5 months, 27 days ago)

Reviving an old thread because I haven't found an answer with the search bar.

I recently found a large chunk of chaga near where I live. I saw some teks on double extraction, so I used a cheese grater to powderize it. I used the majority in the alcohol extraction, which is now sitting.

I came across this thread after searching for how to grow chaga myself. It seems RR used the very same form of chaga that I have left (dried and powdered 'fruit body' (it's not technically but it's what's exposed on the tree)) to then produce an LC. Am I mistaken?

I'm concerned with sterility of my powder (I did the grating in the kitchen) and I'm not sure if I treat the pulverized fruit as I would a piece of living mycelium (just dropping some powder into the potential LC.) 

Anyone clear on RR's method? I know the location of the tree I harvested it from so obtaining a living sample is a possibility, however I'm not clear on the techniques of obtaining a sample without also taking with me other unwanted spores or bacteria in the air.

Any advice is greatly appreciated!


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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: Merkabah]
    #19876925 - 04/21/14 08:44 AM (5 months, 27 days ago)

You wouldn't want to put it straight into an LC. You would want to grow it out on agar first then once you get some clean mycelium move that to an LC. I'm assuming you'd need to rehydrate it before placing it on your plates.


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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: FooMan]
    #19876972 - 04/21/14 09:26 AM (5 months, 27 days ago)

Thank you for your response.

So, I could potentially, in the proper conditions, rehydrate a small amount of the powder and place on agar to induce mycelial growth? From experience, do you think it's reasonable to assume I can get at least one dish to grow some mycelium without growing anything I don't want to, even given the lack of sanitation in processing the chaga beforehand?

Do you think it'd be more feasible to collect a living sample from the tree? If I did, are there any methods you could suggest to cut down on potential contams? (Like bring the dishes out with me and put directly onto agar rather than bagging a sample?)

Thanks again, super excited to grow my own chaga mycelium.


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Re: Anyone know how to grow chaga? (Uber antioxidant ORAC food) [Re: Merkabah]
    #19877161 - 04/21/14 11:03 AM (5 months, 27 days ago)

It sounds like you may need a little more experience with agar to be successful at what your trying to achieve. If you are working with contam riddled outdoor specimens you might want to use a antibiotic agar, or if your experienced enough you can isoloate contams away from your petri.  Do not bring the petri outdoors, collect your specimen and then bring it home to your lab to work with.

Also, while there are many medicinal benefits from Inonotus obliquus mycelium when being extracted from LC's, one compound - betulinic acid, is completely absent in when cultivated. In nature Inonotus obliquus grows mostly on birches, and birch bark contains up to 22% of betulin. Chaga mushroom converts betulin into betulinic acid which is very bioavailable.


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