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should i break up the mycelium or just leave as cakes?
    #11703504 - 12/23/09 01:36 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

so when i have full cakes of mycelium what is better to do break it up or leave it as a cake? and if i break it up what tek should i use? i know what to do if i leave it as a cake. im just wondering what you guys think is better for a higher yield or more convenient


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Re: should i break up the mycelium or just leave as cakes? [Re: omnia]
    #11703575 - 12/23/09 01:56 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

if u break it up and make a casing it will get a higher yield. you can look at the casing forms to find one good for you. i suggest a 60/40 verm coir mix
http://www.shroomery.org/55/60-40-Vermiculite-and-Coco-Coir-Casing-Tek


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Re: should i break up the mycelium or just leave as cakes? [Re: mj42070]
    #11703620 - 12/23/09 02:13 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

do a straight verm casing, its the easiest and works just as well. the only difference with coir is you can tell when its drying out.


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Re: should i break up the mycelium or just leave as cakes? [Re: mushking]
    #11703623 - 12/23/09 02:14 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

when i do this do i need a layer on the bottom? what are the layers? perlite then substrate broken up then verm? am i correct? and how high should each one be?


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Re: should i break up the mycelium or just leave as cakes? [Re: omnia]
    #11703638 - 12/23/09 02:19 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

you could do a layer of the verm on bottom then the crumbled cakes with a verm layer on top.


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Re: should i break up the mycelium or just leave as cakes? [Re: mj42070]
    #11703645 - 12/23/09 02:21 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

if i break up the cakes do i still want to dunk and roll after i get them out of the jars? then break them up? and how do i get flushes with broken up cakes?


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Re: should i break up the mycelium or just leave as cakes? [Re: omnia]
    #11703647 - 12/23/09 02:21 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

you wont increase yield by crumbling and casing

you need to crumble then spawn to bulk like coir or manure

also dont use coir for a casing layer
casing layers are non nutritious and are put on
to provide a micro climate for the formation of pins
another thing you dont need perlite in your mix

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Re: should i break up the mycelium or just leave as cakes? [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #11703671 - 12/23/09 02:29 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

your yeld will be better in my opinon if you case.  Cakes are great to start but as much as you like the fruits I'm sure you like cultivating as well and casing is the easiest progression after cakes.  I think your yelds will make you proud when you leave cakes.


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Re: should i break up the mycelium or just leave as cakes? [Re: medicine man]
    #11703692 - 12/23/09 02:33 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

how will they be better by casing?

by spawning to bulk you are adding
more substrate more nutes

more sub  more nutes = more mushrooms

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Re: should i break up the mycelium or just leave as cakes? [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #11704187 - 12/23/09 05:10 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

The yield indeed doesn't increase by simply casing it.
As we know, water is good for mushrooms, but you only get more and/or bigger fruits, when you increase the amount substrate!

Casing it with straight verm isn't' an increase of substrate, but only good for providing water.

As Noobieshroomie already said, you'd need to spawn the crumbled cakes to a nutritious substrate such as coir or manure to increase the yield. This again also increases the possibility of mold infections etc.
If it's your first time growing, go for the cakes, so you can take prints (I know you don't like prints, but sooner or later you'll learn to trust your own syringe making abilities:wink:).

Again: Simple casing will not increase your yield!


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