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Re: Ecstasy substitute set to be banned [Re: laotzo]
    #11702888 - 12/22/09 08:43 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I Did this stuff and I was fucked up from it. I also felt like shit for 3 days after. It wasn't that fun or even worth it.


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Re: Ecstasy substitute set to be banned [Re: akb112211]
    #11703111 - 12/22/09 09:20 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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akb112211 said:
Its the other pipes that people are having bad reactions to(tfmpp, mcpp, etc). So this won't actually help the pill scene too much(if what I said is true).




I think it's weird that Trazodone (Desyrel) is metabolized into mCPP.  I wonder what that does to you over time, if you're on Trazodone.  I was on it for like 2 years for sleeping issues, I got my hands on some Ambien and finally kicked the Trazodone.
I had tried in the past to kick it but it always ended with me just not being able to sleep for days and feeling the electric shock things in my chest all night.


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Re: Ecstasy substitute set to be banned [Re: DragonChaser]
    #11703157 - 12/22/09 09:29 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

i just got put on trazadone.

this thrills me ...NOT


damn sam, i'm not sure how i feel about that.


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Re: Ecstasy substitute set to be banned [Re: laotzo]
    #11704078 - 12/23/09 01:35 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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laotzo said:
ok, i did and i am wrong.

however, i was in the ballpark.


MDMA is classed as a psychedelic amphetamine...


"MDMA (3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine) or Ecstasy is a psychoactive amhphetamine drug with entactogenic, psychedelic, and stimulant effects."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mdma

so ya'll both get a half point. (3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine)


so i looked it up.

it is an amphetamine, it just isn't a typical one.





Saying MDMA is Meth is like Saying Hydrogen Peroxide is Water.

DihydrogenMonoxide vs. DihydrogenDioxide
H2O vs. H2O2


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Re: Ecstasy substitute set to be banned [Re: laotzo]
    #11704094 - 12/23/09 01:39 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

aren't all you guys soooo smart now..

my bad my bad. i have not idea about mdma but i thought because it does contain methamphetamine in the name that it does contain methamphetamine..

sorry to make all you guys upset =)


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Re: Ecstasy substitute set to be banned [Re: Humboldt_Hunter]
    #11704108 - 12/23/09 01:43 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

no harm no foul


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Re: Ecstasy substitute set to be banned [Re: Humboldt_Hunter]
    #11704180 - 12/23/09 02:06 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

like i said. i was wrong. i cited what showed i was wrong, and pointed at what it said....


>>>>>point point point....


so don't take it so personal..it's wikipedia.

I did XTC when it was pure and legal. You don't need to sing the praises

of it to me. Or point out the differences.

It's just wikipedia and the chemical classification, not an assault

the fact that pure x creates real honest love for everything like a

bar of light through the center of your being.



just citing wikipedia. not a personal attack on you or xtc.

:chillpill:


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Re: Ecstasy substitute set to be banned [Re: Humboldt_Hunter]
    #11704290 - 12/23/09 02:51 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Humboldt_Hunter said:
aren't all you guys soooo smart now..

my bad my bad. i have not idea about mdma but i thought because it does contain methamphetamine in the name that it does contain methamphetamine..

sorry to make all you guys upset =)




no problem...It was only put like that to you because you are new and because the manner of your post reeked of someone shooting their mouth of without knowing what they are talking about.
but I'm happy now that everyone else set it straight(ish, but good enough). If you really want to know more, read PIHKAL. Not only is it a really good read, you'll know more about phenethylamines than most people you talk to. (and its a big thick book, and just having it in your hands makes you feel clever;)

Welcome to the forums.


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Re: Ecstasy substitute set to be banned [Re: laotzo]
    #11704298 - 12/23/09 02:54 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

This ones for you :grin:  Should put things in perspective when you understand it. 

http://www.dhmo.org/


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Re: Ecstasy substitute set to be banned [Re: akb112211]
    #11704303 - 12/23/09 02:56 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

but it's pricey.

anyone know where i can get an ebook of BOTH halves?

And while i'm being cheap,TiKHAL also.


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Re: Ecstasy substitute set to be banned [Re: laotzo]
    #11704306 - 12/23/09 02:58 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

nice1, i'm sorry i was rude to you. that site rocks.

i'm afraid to wash my clothes.


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Re: Ecstasy substitute set to be banned [Re: laotzo]
    #11704361 - 12/23/09 03:37 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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laotzo said:
but it's pricey.

anyone know where i can get an ebook of BOTH halves?

And while i'm being cheap,TiKHAL also.




nah man, you gotta buy the book. support the Shulgins. You will get much more satisfaction in physically having the book. Thats just my opinion though. I like books.


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Re: Ecstasy substitute set to be banned [Re: laotzo]
    #11704391 - 12/23/09 03:50 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

You wern't rude to me - that I can remember!  Thanks anyway :crazy::smile:


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