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I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction
    #11623575 - 12/10/09 04:04 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Alright, I have looked in every hardware store, Lowes, and Home Depot, and I CAN NOT find VM&P Naptha. I know you can use Coleman camp fuel, but I've heard that it's not too clean. Can anyone suggest any clean naptha sources available in stores? Thanks guys


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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: erikm]
    #11623584 - 12/10/09 04:06 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

You could probably use heptane, which is like rubber cement remover.

But if you can't find naphtha then you probably won't find that unless you look online.

Don't know why you can't find naphtha in home depot though.

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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: erikm]
    #11623587 - 12/10/09 04:06 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

i would try ace hardware, or another local hardware store. Naptha is the stuff that gets the job done man.


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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: ThaiTea]
    #11623658 - 12/10/09 04:17 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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You could probably use heptane, which is like rubber cement remover.

But if you can't find naphtha then you probably won't find that unless you look online.

Don't know why you can't find naphtha in home depot though.

:shrug:




I have looked in two different Home Depot stores and I can't find it :mad2: Maybe, I'm looking for the wrong label and over looking the right product. I've been looking for Klean-Strip Naptha, one that looks like this
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/417azdifbBL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

Is that what the product looks like? Is this pic outdated? Its frustrating because they have a million different Klean-Strip brand products, except this one...


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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: erikm]
    #11623702 - 12/10/09 04:23 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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SilentGym said:
You could probably use heptane, which is like rubber cement remover.

But if you can't find naphtha then you probably won't find that unless you look online.

Don't know why you can't find naphtha in home depot though.

:shrug:




I have looked in two different Home Depot stores and I can't find it :mad2: Maybe, I'm looking for the wrong label and over looking the right product. I've been looking for Klean-Strip Naptha, one that looks like this
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/417azdifbBL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

Is that what the product looks like? Is this pic outdated? Its frustrating because they have a million different Klean-Strip brand products, except this one...




dude. Ask for help finding it. Thats what I did, " I was like wheres da sodium hydroxide and wheres naptha?" no questions asked. Those stores are huge, and im stoned half the time, its easier to just ask for help.


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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: ThaiTea]
    #11623748 - 12/10/09 04:30 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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dude. Ask for help finding it. Thats what I did, " I was like wheres da sodium hydroxide and wheres naptha?" no questions asked. Those stores are huge, and im stoned half the time, its easier to just ask for help.




I have tried that in both of the Home Depot's and the Lowes. I swear these fucking employees are retarded. Sodium Hydroxide?! Pff forget it. They don't even know what naptha is... literally every single store I tried gave me a puzzled look and responded with "never heard of it". So I did try Sodium Hydroxide, which just confused them more...


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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: erikm]
    #11624794 - 12/10/09 06:59 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Anyone else have any input?


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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: erikm]
    #11624860 - 12/10/09 07:06 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

just make sure you go to the paint isle, or the ones on either side next to themn, naphtha is for thinning paints and varnish so it should be around there... naoh should be around somewhere else ask them.. ts drain cleaner..


umm you can always use D-limonene, or toluene or hexane or something like that.....?


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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: benitoamanito]
    #11625004 - 12/10/09 07:28 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Drain cleaner is easy to get. There are a few crystal drain cleaners that have naoh in them, but Roebic is the only one that I've heard of people using, so Ill stick to that. And I have always gone to the paint isle. I ask for naptha, they always tell me that they've never heard of it :facepalm:. Then I search for a while for it without finding it...


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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: erikm]
    #11625193 - 12/10/09 07:57 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I just got a small bottle of 100% naoh lye drain cleaner, random brand. And my final results were cleaan as day.


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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: ThaiTea]
    #11625279 - 12/10/09 08:10 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Well the thing is, the dont list the ingredients, only that it has naoh in it. I dont know the percent


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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: erikm]
    #11625301 - 12/10/09 08:14 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

You can often google a certain brand and type of drain cleaner and get a data sheet pdf about it. From that you can usually tell if theres something unwanted in it.


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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: erikm]
    #14463065 - 05/16/11 06:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I went in to Ace today and they had none on their shelves. I know the manager so I talked to him, he said it was on a banned list in southern CA now. They used to have the quarts and gallons. I then went to another small hardware store who still had 4 quarts on the shelves. I asked them about it and he said he is going to look into it. He said they were banned from carrying the gallons, but as far as he knew was allowed to carry the quarts. He is going to let me know if it truly is banned or if their are simply restrictions. But it seems at the very least there are now restrictions on naptha in California.


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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: dangerpig]
    #14463172 - 05/16/11 06:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If you have a farm supply store, most of them carry all sorts of solvents.  Generally inclusive of Xylene and Naptha...


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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: erikm]
    #14463254 - 05/16/11 07:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

In LSA extraction, naptha can b replaced with ammonia and chloroform @ a 1:10 ratio. However I think u better stick with naptha. All the stores u listed around my area carry it. Maybe ur not looking hard enough.


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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: losfreddy]
    #14463304 - 05/16/11 07:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I think chloroform is a bit harder to find than naphtha. Definitely try various hardware stores and never by crown brand anything.


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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: Moo456]
    #14463502 - 05/16/11 07:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Try your local Sherwin Williams store.  They have a warehouse around here and I've known some people who worked there.  They sent a shit ton of that stuff to numerous stores around the country.  My guess is they'd have it.


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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: Shpongle1]
    #14463562 - 05/16/11 07:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: sedert]
    #14463866 - 05/16/11 08:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Zippo lighter fluid is naptha, ronsonol lighter fluid is naptha.. It shouldn't be too hard to find a few bottles of those.


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Re: I need a substitute for VM&P naptha, DMT extraction [Re: VizualDistorshon]
    #14464737 - 05/16/11 11:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

They still had all the xylene on the shelves, but the naptha was removed. I'm not sure if it's just an issue with Ace or if it is an actual ban. I did some google searches and can't come up with anything about naptha being banned. I did see a few posts on message boards, but nothing stating for sure. I managed to get 4 quarts, but it cost me $10 more then buying the gallon from Ace. I was looking to see if I could use something besides naptha, and xylene seems to be the main thing, but I wasn't sure if it's all the same steps, just use xylene, or if it was a little modified. Either way I am in for the naptha now, and trying to solve an issue of 2 of the quarts of naptha absorbing into the mixture.
At Ace they said they have it inn their warehouses but can't get it shipped to their southern CA stores because of a recent ban. Home Depot didn't have any, and I couldn't get to Lowe's. Though I will probably start there next time. If all else fails, Mexico is only a 15 minute drive away.


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