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 Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Cervantes]
#11592984 - 12/05/09 08:05 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I want me some ATL now... sometimes I can't handle the body buzzz....hard to walk lol
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Cervantes]
#11593001 - 12/05/09 08:07 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I want me some ATL now... sometimes I can't handle the body buzzz....hard to walk lol
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LogicaL Chaos
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: 13shrooms]
#11614473 - 12/09/09 01:10 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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13shrooms said:
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anonjon said:
its a different species, not strain. yes more potent
its a different strain, not species, its still a mushroom.
like azure to cube is a different strain. different names in cubes are substrains.
but yeah, they can be more potent than cubes. 
I agree with Cervantes...Psilocybe cubenis and Panaeolus cyanescens (aka Coplendia cyanescens) are completely different species from 2 different Genus, meaning you can't have a hybrid of both species and actually produce a mushroom. Actually, you can't have a hybrid between 2 species inside the same Genus, unless genetic engineering gets advanced enough that its possible.
These mushrooms are *not* the same because of different Genus and Species names: Psilocybe and Panalonous are 2 different Genus and the name's cubenis and cyanescens are the species name. Also note that Psilocybe cyanescens is a completely different mushroom than Panaeolus cyanescens, but ironically, they have similar weight-to-alkaloid potency ratios. So, not to confuse them use Pan or Pan. cyans. for the tropical species and cyanescens or Ps. cyans for the cold-weather temperate species.
But you're right, "different names in cubes are substrains". They are also called "varieties" of Cubenis. Hope that clears up some of the confusion and misinformation about the differences between active species and strains.
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LogicaL Chaos said:Actually, you can't have a hybrid between 2 species inside the same Genus, unless genetic engineering gets advanced enough that its possible.
Ligers and mules?
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: anonjon]
#11618011 - 12/09/09 02:44 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said:Actually, you can't have a hybrid between 2 species inside the same Genus, unless genetic engineering gets advanced enough that its possible.
Ligers and mules?
Don't forget the Pisley Bear.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Cervantes]
#11618453 - 12/09/09 03:59 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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pisley bear? 
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Cervantes]
#11618687 - 12/09/09 04:27 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just started growing some puerto rican cubensis. Im interested in starting as many different strains as I can. if any one has any info on how to come across as many different cube strains as possible that would be most appreciated 
Edited by trishraymond (12/22/09 04:11 PM)
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mister
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is that you in the pic. if so....
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: mister]
#11619460 - 12/09/09 06:02 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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www.ralphstersspores.com has the most variety of cube strains.
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LogicaL Chaos
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I'm wondering that too! Is that girl with the black hair the mushroom grower?! Is so, that completly changes my perspective on hot girls who wear hot tops. Who knew babes were shrooming up this whole time. Its Crazy!
The hand in photo #1 looks pretty close to the second photo, but I'm no hand expert...
>>> I also noticed you just joined the shroomery TODAY trishraymond. I would like to be one of the first guys to say...
  Welcome to the Shroomery trishraymond!!!
Anyway, good luck pretty lady (or the chick friend of the male grower, if that's the case) with your first grow. Looks like healthy white mycelium to me.
Hot chicks can do it too! - HippieChick's new friend.
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Subjective Subtleties in the Psychedelic Experiences of Various Mushroom Species
First Photo-Documented Experiment for The Potency Project.
Like the Universe sitting on your face, Plugged into Gaia's Brain, in a Wyrd dripping Cavernous Labyrinth.
Following the String of Semi-Madness, Brain Gymnastics, Sonic Elastics, Frying the Mind Circuits.
" How big is one nanometer?
Well...if the distance from Los Angeles to New York City was equal to one meter, a nanometer would be equal to the lenght of a single grain of rice!!!"
-> Name Art Designed Only by Coaster
Funniest but Saddest Reason for Closing a Thread! // My Simple Mycelium (Ps. cubenis) Cultivation & Extraction Project *Completed*
Edited by LogicaL Chaos (12/09/09 10:53 PM)
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 Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: anonjon]
#11621044 - 12/09/09 11:04 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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anonjon said:
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LogicaL Chaos said:Actually, you can't have a hybrid between 2 species inside the same Genus, unless genetic engineering gets advanced enough that its possible.
Ligers and mules?
Yes, you're correct, lions and tigers are from the same Genus Panthera, and they can hybridize. But in the context of that statement, I was refering to mushrooms specifically. Unless you something I don't know: have any 2 mushroom species ffrom the same Genus hybridized?
I know variaties of Ps. cubenis have (The albino Penis Envy, for example), but 2 species? Seems possible, considering lions and tigers are much more derived and complex than mushrooms, but I've never heard of such a mad-scientist mutant mushroom creature here.
Any threads to a species-hybrid experiment?
Be Wise, Hybridize!
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Edited by 13shrooms (12/09/09 11:28 PM)
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: 13shrooms]
#11621123 - 12/09/09 11:23 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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More research needs to be done. His project has been shelved... perhaps permanently. More needs to be published by RR before we know exactly what he has... but his work does look promising.
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Yowsa!
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 Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Cervantes]
#11621292 - 12/10/09 12:10 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow, that's cool. I figured mR. Rabbit would be the one cultivator experimenting with a hybrid...
Anyone know where I can find a photo of that "Pan. Cyans. and Ps. Cubenis mycelium coming together at 12'o'clock position" photo he discusses in that thread 13shrooms posted called "Hybrid selection methods"? Maybe you know where to find that photo Cervantes?
Also, to try to keep on topic with this thread: what "variaty" of Ps. cubenis did he use?.....
Which strain/variaty of P. Cubenis would be the best for such a hybrid experiment with Pan. Cyans.?
All very interesting stuff. I would love to see someone else attempt and suceed, but I'm sure "hybrid mushroom cultivation" is for ultra-experts in cultivations. I can see why he choose Pan. Cyans. and P. Cubenis: they are both tropical species which grow on the same substrate in the wild (cow/horse dung). Mind-blowing stuff, I tell ya...
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Edited by LogicaL Chaos (12/10/09 12:11 AM)
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I know how you can get some new strains. There isn't a man on here that wouldn't trade some prints for a nekkid pic or two. 
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Dragonaut]
#11623468 - 12/10/09 12:44 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Drag... come on. Guys, come on. This is not a thread about hot chicks, it is about mycology. Acting like a bunch of creepy hornballs, is a great way to keep people with good genetics from posting on this site.
Trish, depending on where you live, you probably don't want to post such incriminating pics on a public forum.
Anyway, let's stay on topic in here, and keep the flirtation where it belongs, The Pub.
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Cervantes]
#11623498 - 12/10/09 12:50 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd say she's got some good genetics 
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: Cervantes]
#11623509 - 12/10/09 12:52 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Acting like a bunch of creepy hornballs, is a great way to keep people with good genetics from posting on this site.
  
to stay on topic:
Anybody working with any rare or rarely seen on shroomery strains?
dont see too many "red/rust spored" cubes being worked on. 
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Re: Strain/Race/Variety Thread [Re: 13shrooms]
#11623874 - 12/10/09 01:49 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Trish is my friend 
guys jumping on it like flys on shit  
I helped her get her cakes started with a Puerto Rican syringe I got from a vendor.
and I tossed her a PF Classic cake nocced up about 14 days ago with a syringe that didnt have much spores in it,
the growth was real spotty for a while,
so I shotup the rest of the syringe into the jars,
and they seem to be doin fine now
I can verify that Trish is a cool girl, really into mycology;
asks alot of questions, takes notes, and happy to be a part of the shroomery
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