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 Lakefingers
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 Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Cracka_X]
#11601135 - 12/07/09 03:49 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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But ask not Bodies doom'd to die,
To what abode they go;
Since Knowledge is but sorrows spy,
It is not safe to know.
- Sir William D'Avenant
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Lakefingers]
#11601824 - 12/07/09 08:02 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Always recognize that human individuals are ends, and do not use them as means to your end.
- Kant
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: 1200 Micrograms]
#11602009 - 12/07/09 08:41 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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1200 Micrograms said:
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Always recognize that human individuals are ends, and do not use them as means to your end.
- Kant
This has to be the ONLY line of Kant's that I agree with. Are you sure of the validity of this quote? I can hardly believe that Kant wrote that.
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Lakefingers
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11602084 - 12/07/09 08:56 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I suppose you're joking. Or are you seriously saying you've read everything by Kant and only agree with that line. 
Just to confirm: yes, Kant wrote that. It's tied in with his categorical imperative.
Edited by Lakefingers (12/07/09 08:57 AM)
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11603308 - 12/07/09 12:18 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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RationalEgo said:
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1200 Micrograms said:
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Always recognize that human individuals are ends, and do not use them as means to your end.
- Kant
This has to be the ONLY line of Kant's that I agree with. Are you sure of the validity of this quote? I can hardly believe that Kant wrote that.
I'm pretty sure. Perhaps the translation from German to English may have faults in it. Look it up.
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Lakefingers
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: 1200 Micrograms]
#11603811 - 12/07/09 01:20 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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1200 Micrograms said:
I'm pretty sure. Perhaps the translation from German to English may have faults in it. Look it up.
Look, Kant did not say it in those words. It's a paraphrase, but it gets the point across.
What he said was formulated several times in his work. One formulation was:
„Handle so, dass du die Menschheit sowohl in deiner Person, als in der Person eines jeden anderen jederzeit zugleich als Zweck, niemals bloß als Mittel brauchst.“
Rough translation: "Act thusly, that you use humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of another, always as an end, never merely as a means to an end."
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Lakefingers]
#11609125 - 12/08/09 11:21 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Es geht hier um's handeln. That's his main point he wants to bring across; sowohl in dir, als individuum, als auch in der allgemeinen Menschheit.
Right?
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RationalEgo
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Lakefingers]
#11609163 - 12/08/09 11:28 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lakefingers said:
I suppose you're joking. Or are you seriously saying you've read everything by Kant and only agree with that line.
Did I say that I had read ALL of his nonsense? I have read much f his supposed 'Critique of Pure Reason", which was total nonsense and drivel of the pseudo-intellectual variety.
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Just to confirm: yes, Kant wrote that. It's tied in with his categorical imperative.
Well, it really is the only sentence of his that I have read and agreed with, but it is out of context, so that doesn't say much. It does not lend any credence to the rest of his disgusting philosophy.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: 1200 Micrograms]
#11609267 - 12/08/09 11:44 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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"Es geht hier um's handeln."
Yes, I think it's an imperative for practical application. It's directed at you yourself and towards others.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11609295 - 12/08/09 11:47 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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RationalEgo said:
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Lakefingers said:
I suppose you're joking. Or are you seriously saying you've read everything by Kant and only agree with that line.
Did I say that I had read ALL of his nonsense? I have read much f his supposed 'Critique of Pure Reason", which was total nonsense and drivel of the pseudo-intellectual variety.
Have you sat down and spent any time studying Kant? Would you care to explain this in another thread, why Kant is pseudo-intellectual drivel? I'll start it - it's on me.
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Well, it really is the only sentence of his that I have read and agreed with, but it is out of context, so that doesn't say much. It does not lend any credence to the rest of his disgusting philosophy.
Disgusting too. It's amazing that you think his philosophy was nonsense, yet at the same time you made enough sense of it to find it disgusting (which I'm suppose you've picked up from opinions adjacent to or directly taken from Objectivism). I'm sorry, RationalEgo, my bullshit detector just won't turn off when I read what you've written here.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Lakefingers]
#11609722 - 12/08/09 12:47 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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It is nonsense becuase it is a 'disgusting' attempt at an assault on reason.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11610501 - 12/08/09 02:32 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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"People are afraid of themselves, of their own reality; their feelings most of all. People talk about how great love is, but that's bullshit. Love hurts. Feelings are disturbing. People are taught that pain is evil and dangerous. How can they deal with love if they're afraid to feel? Pain is meant to wake us up. People try to hide their pain. But they're wrong. Pain is something to carry, like a radio. You feel your strength in the experience of pain. It's all in how you carry it. That's what matters. Pain is a feeling. Your feelings are a part of you. Your own reality. If you feel ashamed of them, and hide them, you're letting society destroy your reality. You should stand up for your right to feel your pain."
-Jim morrison
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Let's face it; God has a big ego problem. Why do we always have to worship him?
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: LucidSid]
#11610520 - 12/08/09 02:35 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just read that one a few days ago.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Icelander]
#11610564 - 12/08/09 02:42 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thats right, im super good at picking out good qoutes. Im the best qoute picker in this kingdom!! What!?!?! Bring it! ..... LOL.
Yea he was probably buzzin on some cocaine... Cocain is the shit and WAS super popular in this era so idk... makes sense to me.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: LucidSid]
#11615098 - 12/09/09 05:51 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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here's a deep one.
Feel the city breakin'
And ev'rybody shakin'
And we're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
Ah, ha, ha, ha,
Stayin' alive.
Stayin' alive.
~Bee Gees
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The best way to live
is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao ~Tao Te Ching/Daodejing
"Find what you're looking for by not looking for it." ~Old Hippie Philosophy
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Cracka_X]
#11615236 - 12/09/09 06:55 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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"So oft it chances in particular men / That through some vicious mole of nature in them, / By the o'ergrowth of some complexion / Oft breaking down the pales and forts of reason, / Or by some habit grown too much; that these men - / Carrying, I say, the stamp of one defect, / Their virtues else - be they as pure as grace, / Shall in the general censure take corruption / From that particular fault."- Big daddy S.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Icelander]
#11615630 - 12/09/09 08:31 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts, but if he will content to begin with doubts, he shall end in certainties. ~Francis Bacon
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: verbal240]
#11630918 - 12/11/09 02:22 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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“We are all a little weird and life's a little weird, and when we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours, we join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness and call it love.”
santiz
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11631044 - 12/11/09 02:43 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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You don't know Kant that well considering you didn't even recognize his categorical imperative.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: xFrockx]
#11632273 - 12/11/09 06:22 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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"A man can surely do what he wills to do, but cannot determine what he wills." - Schopenhauer
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