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 biologys
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 Re: Pf tek done right TEK  [Re: LeoGin]
#14218584 - 04/01/11 03:45 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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yes mist them and fan them
plain tap water is fine, no need to boil it
water can land on your cakes, just fan afterwards to cause some evaporation, since its one of the best pinning triggers.
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: biologys]
#14218799 - 04/01/11 05:03 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks.
For fan, it's enough to remove caps for 30-60 minutes?
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: LeoGin]
#14219880 - 04/01/11 12:10 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your problem won't be humidity, it's fresh air exchange.
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: Masticore]
#14314714 - 04/19/11 01:23 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey everyone. Newbie her getting ready for my first grow. I have everything I need but I could only find the tall 1/2 pint jars. I noticed in the tek that the shorter ones are preferred. Is there any particular reason I shouldn't use these taller ones?
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: mrnye]
#14314745 - 04/19/11 01:28 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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From what i've heard, the tall ones can tip over easier but they work.
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: mrnye]
#14314820 - 04/19/11 01:40 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Awesome. I'll just be extra careful with them. I guess I will order some for my next grow.
Also, I heard .5cc injections somewhere but general consensus here says 1cc. I have 2 syringes coming and bought 48 jars thinking I could knock up 40. Is that possible or should I stick with the sure thing and use 1cc and noc 20?
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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: mrnye]
#14318800 - 04/19/11 07:56 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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a great read, thanks
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: mrnye]
#14319255 - 04/19/11 09:12 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
mrnye said:
Hey everyone. Newbie her getting ready for my first grow. I have everything I need but I could only find the tall 1/2 pint jars. I noticed in the tek that the shorter ones are preferred. Is there any particular reason I shouldn't use these taller ones?
If you live in the United States, half pint wide-mouthed jars can be sourced special order through Ace Hardware. Not to say that cakes won't work in tall half-pint jars but your chances of success are greater when you use the wide-mouthed half-pint jars.
The mycelium has an easier time colonizing BRF in half-pint wide-mouthed jars over the tall half-pint jars due to the shape of the substrate. Mycelium on BRF in tall half-pint jars, the moisture from the substrate usually accumulates on the bottom of the substrate before the mycelium can colonize the bottom of the cake. Such is not the case with half-pint jars and is why they are prescribed for use with BRF cakes. In wide mouthed half-pint jars, the mycelium can colonize the substrate before moisture build-up inhibits colonization towards the bottom of the cakes.
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mrnye said:
Awesome. I'll just be extra careful with them. I guess I will order some for my next grow.
Also, I heard .5cc injections somewhere but general consensus here says 1cc. I have 2 syringes coming and bought 48 jars thinking I could knock up 40. Is that possible or should I stick with the sure thing and use 1cc and noc 20?
I used to inoculate BRF cakes spore syringe or LC's using 1cc per jar, inoculating with 1/4th a cc each inoculation point.
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: hamloaf]
#14360958 - 04/27/11 02:55 PM (2 years, 27 days ago) |
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I've used the tall 1/2 pints for all my grows since its all I can find and I have never ever had a problem. They have worked every bit as good as the shorties.
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: Felon396]
#14414197 - 05/07/11 10:15 AM (2 years, 17 days ago) |
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You mentioned gypsum helps with the fruiting bodies.
How much and when and where do you add it.
And where can you find some to buy?
Also, how significant is the difference?
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: Chowder]
#14414210 - 05/07/11 10:25 AM (2 years, 17 days ago) |
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I get my Gypsum at Ace Hardware, in the garden section, where soil additives are.
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: Chowder]
#14414257 - 05/07/11 10:46 AM (2 years, 17 days ago) |
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Chowder said:
You mentioned gypsum helps with the fruiting bodies.
How much and when and where do you add it.
And where can you find some to buy?
Also, how significant is the difference?
3% by volume of gypsum is added to the amount of dry grains you plan to use then, is added to the soaking water, after your grains are rinsed. I get gypsum at a local garden, nursery, and greenhouse center in a 40 pound bag for 5 dollars. I'v read of others using a certain type of sheetrock grinded up, agricultural gypsum pellets, or "Paris of plaster" as powdered, agricultural grade gypsum substitutes.
Gypsum isn't necessary to make mushrooms grow but it adds a significant difference in mycelial and fruiting growth so much so that I and several others use it in all stages of mushroom growth, every time. When it can be avoided, don't skimp out on the gypsum.
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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: hamloaf]
#14439484 - 05/12/11 12:29 PM (2 years, 12 days ago) |
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Wow great tip on not leaving the foil on. My cakes were three day in as of last night with very little growth signs. Upon reading this thread, I decided to remove my foil covers. WHAM! woke up this morning and most of my jars are now looking 50% colonized.
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Just a couple quick questions after reading this thread in it entiriety;
After inoculation, should my cakes be given the 12/12 light cycle during colonization / consolidation?
And once I birth my cakes, would this be a good time to make more brf cakes and innocculate them for my next cycle?
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Quote:
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Just a couple quick questions after reading this thread in it entiriety;
After inoculation, should my cakes be given the 12/12 light cycle during colonization / consolidation?
And once I birth my cakes, would this be a good time to make more brf cakes and innocculate them for my next cycle?
you shouldnt put a light onto your jars.
but ambient day night cycles are beneficial.
and yes.
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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: k00laid]
#14503317 - 05/24/11 10:19 AM (2 years, 8 hours ago) |
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Reading through this whole thread would take a whole lot of time, so I was hoping it would be fine to ask a few basic questions. I'm a new grower who is planning to shift to this dunk tek from a simplified PF Tek where I left the cakes in the jars to fruit (I got a whole lot of contaminations and fruiting in all directions).
In previous attempts I was wrapping the aluminum foil over the mouths of the jars then screwing on the lids. Putting on the lids and then the tinfoil does make more sense, I assume that is a mistake I should correct? Also, when it says to fan the cakes in the fruiting chamber, what should I use to do so and how long? An actual fan, my hands, another implement? I know these are newbie questions, sorry if they're annoying.
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Re: Pf tek done right *DELETED* [Re: S.T.E]
#14503321 - 05/24/11 10:21 AM (2 years, 8 hours ago) |
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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: john6886]
#14508995 - 05/25/11 11:34 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Another question: The picture instructions at the beginning of this thread indicate to remove the aluminum foil then inoculate the jars through the openings in the lids. Should I then add new foil to cover the hole in the lid before storing or is that unnecessary?
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Re: Pf tek done right [Re: S.T.E]
#14509050 - 05/25/11 11:54 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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leave foil off.
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Re: Pf tek done right TEK [Re: Shea25]
#14776966 - 07/16/11 01:14 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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High!
I recently tried out this TEK and failed in the beginning when i realized I got moisture in my jars after pressure cooking. Anyone got tips on how to keep moisture out during the pressure cooking process? I had the jars wrapped in foil and the PC was set to 15lbs for an hour and let sit for 10 hours afterwards. Carried the pot into room carefully before opening..... maybe that part was unnecessary? Thanks for any help 
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