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i found some cyans yeaterday!!

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I even found something last night mentioning 1 sighting of azures in my neck of the woods but cant find it atm

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Interesting, if we could master the woodlover, we could master the Azurescen and make a combined effort to introduce to these green and pleasant lands.

Never knew of any Azure sightings before so was one day hoping to be a pioneer

Ovoids in the spring in the UK would be sweet too

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L.S.Ste said:
i found some cyans yeaterday!!

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I wouldn't wanna be eating of them myself personally

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i found some cyans yeaterday!!

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I wouldn't wanna be eating of them myself personally

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I even found something last night mentioning 1 sighting of azures in my neck of the woods but cant find it atm

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Interesting, if we could master the woodlover, we could master the Azurescen and make a combined effort to introduce to these green and pleasant lands.

Never knew of any Azure sightings before so was one day hoping to be a pioneer

Ovoids in the spring in the UK would be sweet too

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once ive mastered the cyans im going to help instigate the distribution of these species

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Because the are Tubaria furfurascens at best. And have you ever heard of the genus Galerina? Otherwise, have a GREAT trip

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Galerina? i've had some of my best trip on them!!! fantastic!

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well i did find some cyans today!

but they were well past their best


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Bleurgh.. hope you didn't take them! 

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Galerina? i've had some of my best trip on them!!! fantastic!

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That's one of the most ridiculous pieces of BS I've even heard spewed. Nice job.


...Oh and than I read the post you made before that...

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take them?  Ive still got a big bag left !

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I'd heard somewhere that rotten cyans go really well in a cocktail with Galerina autumnalis and Tubaria furfurascens (sorry - just being stupid!)

So, more egg boxes or expansion on woodchip?

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take them?  Ive still got a big bag left !

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I'd heard somewhere that rotten cyans go really well in a cocktail with Galerina autumnalis and Tubaria furfurascens (sorry - just being stupid!)

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Wiscokid, great advice as usual but could you explain the soil pasteurisation a bit more?

-As I see it you just use the boiled chip water and throw over soil. Is this done in a pan then left for a bit off the boil or straight through a colander?

I ask because I followed your methods precisely (except I nuked soil) and contams went mad..... though now think the chips used were contamed up to fook -green and whitey mould bits can be seen all over them.

Because of this to everyone elso I would NOT recommend B&Q natural hardwood chips, instead hardwood pet bedding guarantees on the label that no fungus is present -giving the wanted myc a head start!

(I have heard elsewhere of a guy who soaks in water for three days to allow all spores to germinate and then sterilises, he has no problems following this procedure)

The compact yellowey/ blonde shavings etc that you get everywhere are no good though, they are softwood.

Unfortunately Happy Frog Organic Soil is not available in UK so I have used mychorrizae granules -though some of these are said to contain trich!

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Hey there UK explorer yeah - i just use a little bit of soil usually in a layer at top of the jars or in the middle - seems to speed up the rhizo action in my azure jars!!! - and i would just put soil in a bowl with holes at the bottom - and use the boiled chip water to wash it - kinda pasturizing it - but gets it warm and moist!!!! - then i let it drip in the sink for a while - and just let it cool in a open plastic bag on the counter-------- i luckily never ran into contams doing this method but i do kno i used playbox sand one time - and THAT indeed carried in some wicked fuzz molds - a little quality organic soil shud just give the mycelium a running start to jump onto more chips - too much soil and it might start getting overrun with contams - - - also out by you - try n find ANY kind of foxfarm organic soil - it might be around if you hunt stores hard enuf id stay away from granular pellet fertilizers - just even use a little good black dirt from anywhere outside -
i found the mason jar method - with boiled smoking chips and little layers of soil to work the best -  - - -- - ive also had those breather patch bags work really good too - and just plain plastic tubs full of cardboard and more boiled chips - - -- - - and as you mentioned - pre soaking the chips for a couple days would sound like a good idea too - kinda like cube cultivation - where its good to soak the rye so some contams and bacteria germinate - then give it the sterilization to kill it off -
And just keep at it no matter what - even contamed jars will kick ass sometimes - the mold shudn't have much at all to bite into if the substrate is mainly woodchips - Good luck bro - May you ROCK ALL WICKED WOODLOVERS n the UK be sure n hit me up next november - i can get you some PHATTY thick azure prints to start up your next project