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 Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#11546995 - 11/29/09 01:23 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've had people tell me to my face that I'm a racist. When I disclose to them that my wife and family are people of color, they get that look like they just ate a pile of dog-shit.
So "people of color" can't be racist? Someone married to "people of color" can't be racist? Not even to people of a different color than they are married to?
That's amazing! It's also an incredibly dumb thing to say.
Don't put words in my mouth and then tell me it's a dumb thing to say or that its "amazing".
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: zappaisgod]
#11547003 - 11/29/09 01:26 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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The phrase "people of color" is itself racist. Also stupid as all fuck.
Yep, and I've experienced it first-hand, more than once. Does that make me racist or stupid? Think twice before you judge, smart guy.
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: the_conservatarian]
#11548061 - 11/29/09 09:53 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Judge what?
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: the_conservatarian]
#11548188 - 11/29/09 10:21 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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the_conservatarian said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
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the_conservatarian said:
I've had people tell me to my face that I'm a racist. When I disclose to them that my wife and family are people of color, they get that look like they just ate a pile of dog-shit.
So "people of color" can't be racist? Someone married to "people of color" can't be racist? Not even to people of a different color than they are married to?
That's amazing! It's also an incredibly dumb thing to say.
Don't put words in my mouth and then tell me it's a dumb thing to say or that its "amazing".
I'll stick with my comment as written. If you prefer "imply" rather than "say", I can live with that.
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: zappaisgod]
#11548965 - 11/29/09 12:32 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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What does whether he was with the police department have to do with anything? Ans.: Nothing. Members of the military are not immune to civilian police investigation and prosecution.
and other than the shooting, what exactly did he do that was illegal
and would warrant a civilian police investigation?
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11548992 - 11/29/09 12:37 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do you think that police should only investigate people after they have committed a crime? Because that is really, really dumb.
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: zappaisgod]
#11550643 - 11/29/09 04:45 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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so you have no answer to anything... good work
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11550791 - 11/29/09 05:06 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yet another one with arms and legs hacked off calling it "not a scratch". That was played out in Python's Holy Grail. How about this for reasonable cause for investigation:
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U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan was attempting to make contact with an individual associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.
http://abcnews.go.com/m/screen?id=9030873
Or the fact that he just bought the gun. I believe lunatics (yes even random lunatics as you falsely aver this religiously motivated Muslim extremist terrorist to be) are supposed to be checked out. That means investigated for those of you from Rio Linda.
Or maybe this presentation should have led to an investigation;
http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/11/17/hasans-powerpoint-slides/
Unedited here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2009/11/10/GA2009111000920.html
Or this:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2009/11/09/ST2009110903704.html?sid=ST2009110903704
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The Army psychiatrist believed to have killed 13 people at Fort Hood warned a roomful of senior Army physicians a year and a half ago that to avoid "adverse events," the military should allow Muslim soldiers to be released as conscientious objectors instead of fighting in wars against other Muslims.
And finally, for now, we can try this on for size:
http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/11/26/major-nidal-hasan-had-an-enabler/
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Major Nidal Hasan had an enabler
All those red flags but no one did anything. Political correctness took the lives of 14 people.
Read the whole thing. It will make your Islamist apologist/denier toes curl.
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11550797 - 11/29/09 05:08 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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How's that for "nothing"? What are you gonna do now? Gum me to death? Armless, legless and now toothless.
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: zappaisgod]
#11551794 - 11/29/09 07:48 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok, so now we've determined that you believe that buying a gun, exercising
the first amendment to free speech and freedom of religion are all grounds
for criminal investigation... way to go Mr. Patriot
once again, what exactly did he do that warranted a criminal investigation?
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11553570 - 11/30/09 04:54 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Criminal investigation? Now you're moving goalposts. That's OK.
There are laws regarding the purchase of weapons that require background checks. REQUIRE. Or do you think that the mentally ill and felons should be allowed to freely purchase any weapon? Nice. Very smart. Also I seem to recall several cases of terrorists who were investigated for conspiracy to commit terrorist acts. Here's one.
http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090603/NEWS/906030364/-1/NEWS73
Or do you prefer that they wait until the bodies pile up as they surely will under your regimen? Like at Ft Hood? Very smart.
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: zappaisgod]
#11557787 - 11/30/09 06:41 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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There are laws regarding the purchase of weapons that require background checks. REQUIRE. Or do you think that the mentally ill and felons should be allowed to freely purchase any weapon?
when was Hasan deemed to be mentally ill or convicted of a felony, are
you aware that CCW holders dont have to go through the background check
seems that he went through the check and was approved for a permit
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: zappaisgod]
#11561549 - 12/01/09 09:44 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why wasn't he investigated and deemed mentally ill??????????????????????? He certainly gave every indication of it. Why was he approved? Why did the investigation for a CCW fail to, you know, actually investigate? Never mind, I'll answer for you. Because he was a Muslim who must not be offended with such a label. Several psychiatrists said so. Heaven forbid that we find his religious beliefs (i.e. infidels must die) a mental disability.
Do you realize that you just undermined your own argument regarding my position on weapon purchase investigations, which is that there should be. Further you do not have freedom to practice your religion if it involves ritual sacrifice nor do your free speech rights contain a right to threaten people or to conspire to kill them.
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Or do you prefer that they wait until the bodies pile up as they surely will under your regimen? Like at Ft Hood? Very smart.
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: zappaisgod]
#11562732 - 12/01/09 12:32 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why wasn't he investigated and deemed mentally ill???????????????????????
obviously he was investigated, maybe he wasnt mentally ill, as I stated
from the beginning, he finally snapped because he was getting fucked around
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He certainly gave every indication of it.
if owning a gun or being religious is mental illness then it would seem that most of the world suffers from mental illness
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Why was he approved? Why did the investigation for a CCW fail to, you know, actually investigate? Never mind, I'll answer for you. Because he was a Muslim who must not be offended with such a label.
lol... great answer, I'll cherish it always, obviously the CCW check
succeeeded, it was handled as it was supposed to be, his record came
back clean, no felonies, no involuntary drug or mental health internment
just as the system is supposed to work
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Several psychiatrists said so. Heaven forbid that we find his religious beliefs (i.e. infidels must die) a mental disability.
ah yes, several shrinks said he was crazy, I wonder how many said they
were crazy as well, it still appears that you opposed to the constitution
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Do you realize that you just undermined your own argument regarding my position on weapon purchase investigations, which is that there should be. Further you do not have freedom to practice your religion if it involves ritual sacrifice nor do your free speech rights contain a right to threaten people or to conspire to kill them.
my understanding is that he made no threats, he carried out an act, he
also isnt practicing a religion in which ritual suicide is a part of it,
if you know different, please show us
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11563218 - 12/01/09 01:41 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Why wasn't he investigated and deemed mentally ill???????????????????????
obviously he was investigated, maybe he wasnt mentally ill, as I stated
from the beginning, he finally snapped because he was getting fucked around
You stated? YOU? You linked four articles to the same statement from the same whiny cousin. How was he getting fucked around? Because some people told him his advocacy of beheading people was perhaps a tad beyond the pale? Or that he was going to actually have to fulfill his obligations to the military which he volunteered for and which graciously provided him with a free medical education. Please, someone, fuck ME around like that.
He was investigated in a disgustingly half assed manner. The people who did the investigating should be fired.Quote:
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He certainly gave every indication of it.
if owning a gun or being religious is mental illness then it would seem that most of the world suffers from mental illness
I posted a link to an entire power point presentation he gave justifying jihad and beheadings. He also had breakfast. Only one of those things indicates insanity. Guess which one it is.Quote:
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Why was he approved? Why did the investigation for a CCW fail to, you know, actually investigate? Never mind, I'll answer for you. Because he was a Muslim who must not be offended with such a label.
lol... great answer, I'll cherish it always, obviously the CCW check
succeeeded, it was handled as it was supposed to be, his record came
back clean, no felonies, no involuntary drug or mental health internment
just as the system is supposed to work
The system is supposed to identify lunatics, which he obviously was. I don't specifically blame the gun investigators. I blame all the people who, out of political correctness, failed to institutionalize this scumbag because they were afraid that his religion inoculated him from scrutiny.Quote:
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Several psychiatrists said so. Heaven forbid that we find his religious beliefs (i.e. infidels must die) a mental disability.
ah yes, several shrinks said he was crazy, I wonder how many said they
were crazy as well, it still appears that you opposed to the constitution
It still appears that you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Another Constitutional scholar without scholarship.Quote:
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Do you realize that you just undermined your own argument regarding my position on weapon purchase investigations, which is that there should be. Further you do not have freedom to practice your religion if it involves ritual sacrifice nor do your free speech rights contain a right to threaten people or to conspire to kill them.
my understanding is that he made no threats, he carried out an act, he
also isnt practicing a religion in which ritual suicide is a part of it,
if you know different, please show us
Your understanding is sadly lacking because I have posted several links to credible news sources saying that he did in fact make many many threats. Fucking read them.
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: zappaisgod]
#11564917 - 12/01/09 05:32 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I feel that Prisoner #1's opinions are not to be trusted.
He has allured in the affirmative at the assumption that he worked for the Government at one point (likely in the armed services in some form, perhaps not). He hasn't shared which area of the government he worked for.
Just think...
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: Tri High]
#11568254 - 12/02/09 05:47 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tri High said:
I feel that Prisoner #1's opinions are not to be trusted.
He has allured in the affirmative at the assumption that he worked for the Government at one point (likely in the armed services in some form, perhaps not). He hasn't shared which area of the government he worked for.
Just think...
C.I.A.?
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: zappaisgod]
#11569436 - 12/02/09 10:50 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I posted a link to an entire power point presentation he gave justifying jihad and beheadings. He also had breakfast. Only one of those things indicates insanity. Guess which one it is.
you gave a link to a power point presentation that warned of possible
threats from within the ranks, but you're welcome to keep spinning it
as you see fit
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2009/11/09/ST2009110903704.html?sid=ST2009110903704
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: Tri High]
#11569455 - 12/02/09 10:52 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tri High said:
I feel that Prisoner #1's opinions are not to be trusted.
He has allured in the affirmative at the assumption that he worked for the Government at one point (likely in the armed services in some form, perhaps not). He hasn't shared which area of the government he worked for.
Just think...
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11528537#11528537
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Re: Nidal Hasan Tried To Contact Al Qaida, US Officials Knew Months Ago [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11570688 - 12/02/09 02:32 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, you're a pawn for the machine, man.
They've still got you under their thumb?
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