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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11529259 - 11/25/09 09:00 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not sure if I'm following you in terms of the bottom line.
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11530581 - 11/26/09 04:36 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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auweia said: also, for Nightflyer over in Europe with our San Francisco strains. I forgot about this one from last year
not saying your cyans and friscosas will merge, it depends on how different they are...What's been going on in the San Francisco Bay Area for more than ten years, for multiple generations, is both these related species have literally been fucking with each other. Some don't like each other, but some do. ....and for those that do, it gets to the point where you can look at it and say, 'that's p cyanescens', but it sort of looks like they can't decide whether to become wavy or not

Hi Auweia greetings from the other side of the planet!
They are still fruiting because of the mild temps. Let's wait and see; maybe they will merge someday.
Bay Area strains of Cyanofriscosa and Cyanescens fruiting in Central Europe: (Nightshot)
Edited by nightflyer (11/26/09 05:40 AM)
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: nightflyer]
#11534184 - 11/26/09 07:51 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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clinical p cyanescens
the re-emergence of the monster strain here in San Francisco. It's as thick as your pinky

haven't seen that for a couple years..since the drought started, and we're still in a drought...4th year now so far...yes, that one is watered...so it's much much more these days than merely hunting...it's also finding the right combination of chips and irrigated landscaping
transplants from years past help...hehe...yep
really really tough to find, I admit 
but I guarantee it's as public as if you were to go to the shopping mall
*won't mention where, not even the city anymore, but it's very close to San Francisco (if not within the city limits...not saying either way..LOL*
and.....I'm not moving to Washington state or anywhere in the so called PNW any time soon...haha
we'll stick to our massive wood chip fields here on the extreme southern end of the PNW, in California, in San Francisco, thank you very much
PS...cleaned and sorted, the mycelium, as always, goes right back out into the wild around the Bay Area tomorrow
back out into yet new landscaping areas...I mean brand new, within the last couple of months that even YOU don't even know about...lol
because....new wood chip landscape areas are always evolving and changing, from year to year
even an old pro like me is forced to go biking, (which is what I want to keep me healthy)...
despite me being an old pro, I still have to hunt, in the wild...there are certain aspects of mushrooms that NOBODY can control
and that's the real beauty of it...nobody can actually control it...
that's why the hunting forum will always be the best
now playing Harold and Maude 1971..believe it or not, some spots originated with this..the movie crew of Harold and Maude, 1971
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0067185/
they distributed more piles of spores, back in the day..and it still shows up, to this day, in 2009
also from the San Francisco bay area...hehe
Edited by auweia (11/26/09 10:19 PM)
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11535022 - 11/26/09 10:11 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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auweia said: Golden Gate Park, San Francisco this morning,
near a regular cyan patch. I've seen this once before about 6 years ago, maybe half mile away. Sent a photo to Stamets and he couldn't figure it out. Could be just a long stem friscosa, could be something Azure like...there's certainly more bluing than friscosas...I'll keep them separated in case Alan wants to do a scope

regular cyan on the right and left in the newspaper shot
Those long stem friscosa are the exact kind I find here in Washington. In fact, the long stems are common here. I just picked about 20 long stemmed specimens earlier today.
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
#11535197 - 11/26/09 10:41 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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BlimeyGrimey said:
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auweia said: Golden Gate Park, San Francisco this morning,
near a regular cyan patch. I've seen this once before about 6 years ago, maybe half mile away. Sent a photo to Stamets and he couldn't figure it out. Could be just a long stem friscosa, could be something Azure like...there's certainly more bluing than friscosas...I'll keep them separated in case Alan wants to do a scope

regular cyan on the right and left in the newspaper shot
Those long stem friscosa are the exact kind I find here in Washington. In fact, the long stems are common here. I just picked about 20 long stemmed specimens earlier today.
shattered and tossed an worn, too shocking to see
Cat Stevens, 1971, from the film, Harold and Maude, filmed around San Francisco, 1971
it's a cult classic...they also distributed spores
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11535328 - 11/26/09 11:12 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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the re-emergence of the monster strain here in San Francisco. It's as thick as your pinky

Probably one of those small "Bic lighters"
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: Fahkface]
#11536223 - 11/27/09 07:41 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fahkface said:
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the re-emergence of the monster strain here in San Francisco. It's as thick as your pinky

Probably one of those small "Bic lighters"

ah hahaha
yeah, that's it..that's the ticket
this strain is insane.....humbling..I'm telling ya
fingers nearly black.....can't believe it in a drought year
*reduced to babbling mono syllables*
Edited by auweia (11/27/09 07:58 AM)
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11536302 - 11/27/09 08:06 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah! I love those fatties! Too bad they don't keep developing these sexy "fat asses" over years, when the substrate isn't replenished.
Years ago I had several patches producing massive fruits. Today, these patches just come up with comparatively lame and small fruits.
Thank god, I keep finding new ones
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11536312 - 11/27/09 08:09 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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you don't see this too often...it's from the same general landscaping area as the monster strain (100 meters away)

red hypholomas and cyans in the same patch
the hypholomas are getting a little old, obviously, but the cyans popped up right in between in the last week...rubbing shoulders.... scuse me..scuse me...crowded in here*
Edited by auweia (11/27/09 08:20 AM)
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11536330 - 11/27/09 08:14 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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"Red Hypholomas"?
Looks more like Leratiomyces ceres (Stropharia aurantiaca) . You mean them? I never heard of any red Hypholomas...
If you mean Leratiomyces ceres, it's not directly uncommon for them to grow side by side.
I've seen them growing in a colourful mix quiet some times. Maybe this is more common over here
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: Fahkface]
#11536365 - 11/27/09 08:24 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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nah, it's the same thing
http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Leratiomyces_ceres.html
nomenclature has changed over the years...used to be called naemataloma' years ago, then 'stropharia'..
and then they got it in their heads to change it yet again, to 'hypholoma'
well...whatever...it's still the same damn red mushroom that likes the exact same habitat as cyans
and...and ...OMG, it has yet another new name
Leratiomyces ceres
stay tuned to this program next year, when we come up with yet another new name :P
and in 20 years, 20 new names....yeah, that'll fix it for sure
I swear to god...sometimes I think mycologists have a bigger problem with these red stropharias than they do with the cyan-friscosa problem. It's ironic, to say the least, because these red ones are probably the single most common mushroom in wood chips out there...You can see them from far away...it's what makes me hit the brakes and check out new areas...all the time
these red stropharias are pretty much world wide..and in Germany
but here in the San Francisco Bay Area, you don't usually see this intertwined mycelium with cyans like that..nearby, yes, but that close together...not usually
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Fahkface said: "Red Hypholomas"?
Looks more like Leratiomyces ceres (Stropharia aurantiaca) . You mean them? I never heard of any red Hypholomas...
If you mean Leratiomyces ceres, it's not directly uncommon for them to grow side by side.
I've seen them growing in a colourful mix quiet some times. Maybe this is more common over here
Edited by auweia (11/27/09 08:48 AM)
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11536445 - 11/27/09 08:47 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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auweia said: nah, it's the same thing
http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Leratiomyces_ceres.html
nomenclature has changed over the years...used to be called naemataloma' years ago, then 'stropharia'..
and then they got it in their heads to change it yet again, to 'hypholoma'
well...whatever...it's still the same damn red mushroom that likes the exact same habitat as cyans
and...and ...OMG, it has yet another new name
Leratiomyces ceres
stay tuned to this program next year, when we come up with yet another new name :P
and in 20 years, 20 new names....yeah, that'll fix it for sure
these red stropharias are pretty much world wide..and in Germany
but here in the San Francisco Bay Area, you don't usually see this intertwined mycelium with cyans like that..nearby, yes, but that close together...not usually
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Fahkface said: "Red Hypholomas"?
Looks more like Leratiomyces ceres (Stropharia aurantiaca) . You mean them? I never heard of any red Hypholomas...
If you mean Leratiomyces ceres, it's not directly uncommon for them to grow side by side.
I've seen them growing in a colourful mix quiet some times. Maybe this is more common over here
Yeah, this whole name thing has had it's impact on me as well. The result is probably going to be me giving it a totally new name. Such as Mushroomensis redicolora.
This whole name thing sucks in my opinion! If there's an ID request on one of these things, it doesn't really matter what name you right down. It's always old...
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: Fahkface]
#11536478 - 11/27/09 08:54 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah, it's nuts.....At this point, I'm just about ready to just post some photos and called it 'those red ones'
do mycologists and their nomenclature habits drive you more batty than cyans ever could?...uh huh
Edited by auweia (11/27/09 10:00 AM)
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11544389 - 11/28/09 04:24 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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friscosas...with wavy features....fugliest friscosas around
buck teeth and everything
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11546524 - 11/28/09 11:08 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah those look muy mal
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: burtonRebel]
#11546655 - 11/28/09 11:38 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would be just swell with finding specimens that resembled those any day, consider yourself lucky... Still nothing active in my part of the north bay besides nasty Gyms and if you wanna consider them, Amanitas.
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: limentroll]
#11547816 - 11/29/09 08:52 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Amanitas arent bad in low dose tea.
 Friscosas colonizing a landscaped bed
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: cyanophilus]
#11550318 - 11/29/09 03:52 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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2 years ago I found some Cyanfriscosas up at a local college,then I respawned the stem butts and this is athe result a couple days ago.They also had a slight wavy to the cap it very suttle. 
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: OregonBluesGil]
#11550667 - 11/29/09 04:48 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Last time I was in ggp I passed by this great lookin habitat and thought to myself damn cyans have to grow here, so I went back there this morning and it turns out I was Right! Found myself 27 specimens. 4 of them were in woodchips the rest I found hiding in the grass about 2 feet away from the chips.There kinda small but very solid.I also found hundreds of pins in the grass, I dont think theyll make it but maybe.I found something later that kinda reminded me of pan subbs, I was pretty stucken phoned at the time so I took them with me. I cant figure out what they are, theyre drying to fast.THey have black spores,stem has boulbous top with the lines going down,bright white myceilum on the bottom,strong hollow stems, found them in a dug up land scape.     
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: psilynut]
#11550979 - 11/29/09 05:36 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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getting pretty dry out there. we might still have a good christmas tho, but I remember the last few years it's been peaking later, like january
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