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 Re: Vermiculite in syringe-Bad? [Re: ZLeiterman]
#11526255 - 11/25/09 12:13 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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as long as you use shroomery sponsors you will be takin care of.
my A+ favs are
www.ralphstersspores.com
www.sporeworks.com
www.thehawkseye.com
never been dissatisfied with them but I havent used all of the sponsors so try them also if you wish.
good luck!
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Re: Vermiculite in syringe-Bad? [Re: 13shrooms]
#11526757 - 11/25/09 01:43 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey thanks a lot I'll stick with em then.
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low humidity while incubating/cleaning of incubation rooom [Re: ZLeiterman]
#11588876 - 12/05/09 07:37 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey all,
I'm a new cultivator with 13 pf jars colonizing(2 different strains) for 10 days on bookshelf with regular room lighthing, no lightbulbs, not in complete darkness.Lids are on tight,inoculation holes through micropore tape,foil covering holes. Everything seems to be going well;11 out of 13 jars have shown minimal to opitmal signs of growth, one strain is nearly 50% colonized, other strain is a bit sluggish, but moving. Should i loosen lids/remove foil on the slow guys? Also, I purchased a digital thermometer/hygrometer yesterday to monitor room tempertature. I am incubating with a room temperature of 75 F, but it displays R.H at only 22! is this bad for my jars, should i get a humidifier rolling? I plan on using this same room for fruiting, using the perlite method in shotgun terrerium. I also want to dust and vaccuum this room in about a week, so i'm thinking i take my jars to a previously cleaned room, clean the incubation room, wait a day, then return the jars? Things are going really well, but I have a tendency to mess things up at these times in a mad panic! I'd appreciate any advice for a noob.
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Re: low humidity while incubating/cleaning of incubation rooom [Re: ZLeiterman]
#11589076 - 12/05/09 08:50 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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sounds like youre doing everything right so far
good job, the only thing i would do is take the foil off the jars
the mycelium needs to breathe while colonizing
the humidity in your room does not matter much at this stage
its when you fruit them you want it to be high
as for cleaning the room, sounds like you got a plan
move em out clean up move em back in
good luck with your future project
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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.
Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!
GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT
ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
Thank you mycochef
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Re: low humidity while incubating/cleaning of incubation rooom [Re: noobieshroomie]
#11593275 - 12/05/09 09:13 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks again for the sage wisdom Noobieshroomie, but I am still conflicted. I have heard to take the foil off for gas/air exchange, and the barrier of dry verm will filter out the baddies, but christ i'm afraid to even breathe when LOOKING at them, let alone take the foil off when i inspect the jars (I can't believe how patient i've been; only handled them twice in 10 days!). And then I hear that there is enough gas/FAE if you leave the foil on as long as there are holes in the lid. I'm just really afraid of contams, and then one jar messing up everything else. As i stated, about 5 jars of the same strain are really taking off (I know i'm a noob and really wouldn't know, but i see new mycelia joining DAILY ona particular strain; the other strain(8 jars)was incubated in a dark cupboard for a week with very little growth if nothing, so i put six of them on the bookshelf with the other guys, and now they are slowly beginning to colonize, one is super aggressive in particular). So this whole darkness thing is bunk as described in ALL OF ROGER RABBITS NOTES? or is it just a slow strain/old spores for these guys? Tell you what, for the sake of the experiment, I will remove foil from 1 jar on each strain (the slower looking ones)and record my data.
Thanks again buddy
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Re: low humidity while incubating/cleaning of incubation rooom [Re: ZLeiterman]
#11593309 - 12/05/09 09:20 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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its ok to be nervous the firs time you grow
lord knows i was but the dry verm layer is really all you need
and keeping the jars in the dark has been outdated for a while
jars in an open room exposed to regular light is just fine
let us know how much faster they colonize with the foil off
and keep up the good work
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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.
Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!
GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT
ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
Thank you mycochef
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Re: low humidity while incubating/cleaning of incubation rooom [Re: noobieshroomie]
#11593350 - 12/05/09 09:30 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I will Noobie, I will. Thank You again.
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Re: low humidity while incubating/cleaning of incubation rooom [Re: ZLeiterman]
#11593395 - 12/05/09 09:39 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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any time bro
-noobie-
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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.
Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!
GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT
ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
Thank you mycochef
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#11627031 - 12/10/09 10:13 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Does anyone know how temp effects colonization if its too cold (>65?) is this something to be concerned about or will it just slow down the process?
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: trishraymond]
#11627142 - 12/10/09 10:39 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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it will slow down the process
if it gets too cold it can stall your cakes tho
try to keep them in the 70's for best results
-noobie-
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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.
Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!
GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT
ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
Thank you mycochef
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: trishraymond]
#11627150 - 12/10/09 10:41 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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i fruit in cold temps, but try and keep my colonization temps above 70...above 75  if can
it will still colonize...sloooowly, and pin slowly, and fruit slowly.
if youre colonizing that cold, you might have to introduce to warmer climates to get it to even start producing primordia and pins
try and take it to a high shelf, where if its 65 in your house, it might be 70+ on a high shelf.
or a small space heater for closet/room...just be cautious with these
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: just me]
#11627161 - 12/10/09 10:45 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dont have the patience for them to colonize slowly lol I wanna see some mycl in my little jars. time to pick up a thermometer and possibly a space heater. Thanks for the help guys 
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: trishraymond]
#11627167 - 12/10/09 10:47 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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any time
-noobie-
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AMU
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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.
Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!
GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT
ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
Thank you mycochef
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#11627190 - 12/10/09 10:51 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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nooooooooooooooob, i need a good ebidle cluture
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Edited by just me (12/10/09 10:51 PM)
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: just me]
#11627207 - 12/10/09 10:54 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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watcha want?
if i dont have it i can get it
i have blue and pink oysters
as well as shitake ready now
all on agar
im goin to the post office in the am
so...if you act fast i can have it out then
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Best Thread Ever
CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.
Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!
GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT
ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
Thank you mycochef
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: noobieshroomie]
#11627218 - 12/10/09 10:56 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: just me]
#11650922 - 12/14/09 06:07 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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check the vendor list for spores!
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 Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Hal1]
#11669768 - 12/17/09 03:35 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good evening,
I've got 12 pf jars at 3 weeks in. 3 of em have mycelium completely covering sides and bottom of jar, and others are following suit. But I'm wondering how do you know if colonization is complete under the verm barrier? I can clearly distinguish the verm barrier from my healthy substrate at a two dimensional view(some mycelium even seems to be reaching up into the verm barrier). Is this why we give them an extra week before birthing,duh? Just curious, I'm so close...so i plan to begin fruiting in a week?!
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Hal1]
#11669770 - 12/17/09 03:35 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good evening,
I've got 12 pf jars at 3 weeks in. 3 of em have mycelium completely covering sides and bottom of jar, and others are following suit. But I'm wondering how do you know if colonization is complete under the verm barrier? I can clearly distinguish the verm barrier from my healthy substrate at a two dimensional view(some mycelium even seems to be reaching up into the verm barrier). Is this why we give them an extra week before birthing,duh? Just curious, I'm so close...so i plan to begin fruiting in a week?!
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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: ZLeiterman]
#11669854 - 12/17/09 03:43 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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sorry about that, the machine disobeys me
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