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Re: Azurescens vs Broadly Umbonate Cyanofriscosa / 2009 Portland Psilocybe Photos [Re: MitchKock]
#11436532 - 11/11/09 07:11 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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i'm not really surprised, nor that we're so often seeing what seem to be different active woodlovers growing right next to eachother, with all the years of guerrilla spawning going on in these cities.
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Re: Azurescens vs Broadly Umbonate Cyanofriscosa / 2009 Portland Psilocybe Photos [Re: canid]
#11437871 - 11/11/09 10:02 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am now printing a bunch of azures to make spray bottles and hopefully start some urban patches like the one you found for next year
Your success rate will be a lot higher, if you just knock up some PF jars with Azure spores and either spawn it directly to out door beds (especially ones that were made by you), or spawn it to a bigger amount of wood chips and let them colonize first, before you use it as the actually outdoor spawn.
Making spore solutions and spraying it to outdoor beds is definitely better than nothing, but when you consider HOW many mushroom spores fly through the world and -compared to that- how few mushrooms are actually growing, you could conclude that there's a) a lot of competition and b) most places ain't really suitable for mushrooms to grow, for reasons you probably can't really see.
Just as an advise
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Re: Azurescens vs Broadly Umbonate Cyanofriscosa / 2009 Portland Psilocybe Photos [Re: Fahkface]
#11439561 - 11/12/09 09:12 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your success rate will be a lot higher, if you just knock up some PF jars with Azure spores and either spawn it directly to out door beds (especially ones that were made by you), or spawn it to a bigger amount of wood chips and let them colonize first, before you use it as the actually outdoor spawn.
I realize that it would work better to make spawn as you suggested but spraying chip beds is awkward enough and draws plenty of stares as it is. Hauling a bunch of spawn into public parks and digging around in beds there just seems downright sketchy. My goal is to try and introduce this species to the seattle area for the long haul, not to make personal patches. I have a huge pile of azure spores now and I am going to start spraying away today!
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Re: Azurescens vs Broadly Umbonate Cyanofriscosa / 2009 Portland Psilocybe Photos [Re: CubeBensies]
#11439807 - 11/12/09 10:02 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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CubeBensies said:
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Your success rate will be a lot higher, if you just knock up some PF jars with Azure spores and either spawn it directly to out door beds (especially ones that were made by you), or spawn it to a bigger amount of wood chips and let them colonize first, before you use it as the actually outdoor spawn.
I realize that it would work better to make spawn as you suggested but spraying chip beds is awkward enough and draws plenty of stares as it is. Hauling a bunch of spawn into public parks and digging around in beds there just seems downright sketchy. My goal is to try and introduce this species to the seattle area for the long haul, not to make personal patches. I have a huge pile of azure spores now and I am going to start spraying away today!
As I said, it's better than doing nothing! But when you really want to introduce this species to your town, you shouldn't hesitate to use a way, that's definitely more successful, even if it means higher costs (that are still near to zero), more time exposure and maybe some awkward reactions. BTW, it's done pretty quickly, so I wouldn't really be scared of being "busted" or "detected" 
Anyway, it's your decision and none of my concerns. In the end, I think it's a noble purpose anyway, so feel respected for it (even it it doesn't matter to you )
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Re: Azurescens vs Broadly Umbonate Cyanofriscosa / 2009 Portland Psilocybe Photos [Re: MitchKock]
#11490318 - 11/19/09 11:32 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Awesome find!
I can help with identification. I have a microscope and can provide a microscopic and macroscopic evaluation of your finds. I have experience with cyans, azures, and cyanofribrillosa including reference spores. Check your PM's, I sent you one.
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Re: Azurescens vs Broadly Umbonate Cyanofriscosa / 2009 Portland Psilocybe Photos [Re: Joshua]
#11490332 - 11/19/09 11:35 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Where did you get the cyanofibrillosa reference spores?
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Re: Azurescens vs Broadly Umbonate Cyanofriscosa / 2009 Portland Psilocybe Photos [Re: Joshua]
#11499382 - 11/21/09 02:14 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Aint seen ya post in a minute how ya been bro?
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Re: Azurescens vs Broadly Umbonate Cyanofriscosa / 2009 Portland Psilocybe Photos [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#11504407 - 11/22/09 12:33 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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From personal collections.
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Re: Azurescens vs Broadly Umbonate Cyanofriscosa / 2009 Portland Psilocybe Photos [Re: Dobie]
#11504420 - 11/22/09 12:36 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Check your PM's.
Joshua
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Re: Azurescens vs Broadly Umbonate Cyanofriscosa / 2009 Portland Psilocybe Photos [Re: Joshua]
#11517065 - 11/24/09 06:38 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Joshua said: From personal collections.
Joshua
Long time, no see. Collections of Psilocybe cyanofibrillosa are scarcer than hen's teeth. A micrograph of them and a photograph of the mushrooms would go a long way to verify your claim. Most collections are something else, usually P. cyanofriscosa.
The spores in my avatar are P. caerulipes, which I found last year. The first ones ever reported with accuracy from the Shroomery.
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Re: Azurescens vs Broadly Umbonate Cyanofriscosa / 2009 Portland Psilocybe Photos [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#11519706 - 11/24/09 02:23 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Interesting indeed..
One of my patches exploded with both nippled and non nippley caps this year. Its the first years this patch has actually fruited, and I am quite pleased...
I noticed yesterday how some of them have nipples and thin stems and some have thck fibrous stems with just a plain cap...
Ill post up some pictures here later on after my class if I can find my camera charger..
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Re: Azurescens vs Broadly Umbonate Cyanofriscosa / 2009 Portland Psilocybe Photos [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#11522555 - 11/24/09 08:37 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll see what I can put together. I have images I will post now. The micrograph will have to wait until I get my microscope assembled. I'll work on a full description soon.
Habitat:
Growing on deciduous mulch in Corvallis, Oregon. Fruiting in early December 2004.
Pilleus:
Convex to broadly convex with age. Margin regular, slightly inturned in younger specimens. Deep brown in younger specimens fading to light tan when dry. Striation present at margin when moist. Staining blue regularly at margins and slightly through cap and where flesh is handled. Separable gelatinous pellicle present.
Gills: Adnate and adnexed, regular spacing with alternate rows present. Light brown in color.
Spores:
Purple-brown deposit. Detailed microscopy pending.
Stipe:
White when young turning brown with age. Fibrils present along length of stem. Fibrilose veil remnants present.



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Re: Azurescens vs Broadly Umbonate Cyanofriscosa / 2009 Portland Psilocybe Photos [Re: Joshua]
#11523760 - 11/24/09 11:54 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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i like those pics
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