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Re: Justification [Re: elementswrath]
    #11509803 - 11/23/09 09:12 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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...justification is necessary.:lol:


You've explained that you believe that justification is a sister and a cousin to denial or whatever, but you need to explain to me what you believe it is necessary for.


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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Justification [Re: Poid]
    #11509933 - 11/23/09 09:34 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

if you get in trouble with the law, it is necessary to justify yourself.
some people don't want to justify and just go to jail.
but if you are getting arrested for something you didn't do poid i am sure you would justify.
it can also be to get out of embarrassment and justify faults about your character.
for example say your pants fell down during gym, and people started laughing at you and cracking jokes, you will either self deny that you're embarrass and follow along or you will justify to protect your dignity.
or say when a kid says "you're bad at drawing" and you could either agree or justify by saying "well i haven't practiced or went to drawing classes so don't blame me!".
justification is used to squeeze out of tight situation that risks something you want to protect, either your dignity or your rights.


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Re: Justification [Re: elementswrath]
    #11510352 - 11/23/09 10:45 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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if you get in trouble with the law, it is necessary to justify yourself.


Necessary in order for what end?



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elementswrath said:
some people don't want to justify and just go to jail.
but if you are getting arrested for something you didn't do poid i am sure you would justify.


I would be super fucking pissed if that happened to me, but luckily, I can be pretty smooth with cops and shit. :stoned:

But you're right, I would somehow attempt to justify myself. :shrug:



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it can also be to get out of embarrassment and justify faults about your character.


I personally don't take my character or the character of others too seriously. :shrug:

I am aware that many people do this, though, and I am just wondering if it is necessary to give a fuck about others' judgments of your character in order to be happy. :smile2:



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elementswrath said:
for example say your pants fell down during gym, and people started laughing at you and cracking jokes, you will either self deny that you're embarrass and follow along or you will justify to protect your dignity.


I'd probably laugh with them, or walk away or some shit. :shrug:




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or say when a kid says "you're bad at drawing" and you could either agree or justify by saying "well i haven't practiced or went to drawing classes so don't blame me!".


Obviously, in this particular situation, it would be necessary to explain/justify why you are bad at drawing if what you want to do is explain/justify why you are bad at drawing.



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justification is used to squeeze out of tight situation that risks something you want to protect, either your dignity or your rights.


Is this the only way that it is used?


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Justification [Re: Poid]
    #11510407 - 11/23/09 10:52 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Necessary in order for what end?

to attain your goals for what ever reason you are justifying.


I personally don't take my character or the character of others too seriously. :shrug:

I am aware that many people do this, though, and I am just wondering if it is necessary to give a fuck about others' judgments of your character in order to be happy. :smile2:


judging is human nature, every one does it in different levels.


I'd probably laugh with them, or walk away or some shit. :shrug:

every one has a different personality.

Obviously, in this particular situation, it would be necessary to explain/justify why you are bad at drawing if what you want to do is explain/justify why you are bad at drawing
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yep.

Is this the only way that it is used?

well it's kinda of a way to get neutral in a situation.

take micheal jackson for example, he was accused for touching a kid in wrong ways.
he won his case and now some people think he did it and some think he is innocent.


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