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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: OverdoseLiving]
#11507455 - 11/22/09 08:41 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I picked a bunch of friscosas and a few dozens cyans today. WE need some rain!!! Btw, who did I run into today while taking pictures of the Honey Mushrooms???
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: tahoe]
#11507466 - 11/22/09 08:42 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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whatsup tahoe we also need some snow!
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: burtonRebel]
#11509474 - 11/23/09 07:53 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Found a nice flush of Chanterelles yesterday. Got a bag full or two. There was a light drizzle yesterday, but hopefully it will rain here nice and solid.
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: quadracer]
#11519874 - 11/24/09 02:54 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Golden Gate Park, San Francisco this morning,
near a regular cyan patch. I've seen this once before about 6 years ago, maybe half mile away. Sent a photo to Stamets and he couldn't figure it out. Could be just a long stem friscosa, could be something Azure like...there's certainly more bluing than friscosas...I'll keep them separated in case Alan wants to do a scope

regular cyan on the right and left in the newspaper shot
Edited by auweia (11/24/09 02:56 PM)
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11519933 - 11/24/09 03:02 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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They look like friscosas to me. Grass will cause the stems to elongate.
I'll check it out under the scope anyway though.
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cyanophilus
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#11521232 - 11/24/09 05:40 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I found some Cyanescens!
Ill update when they mature.
aside from that...
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Edited by cyanophilus (11/24/09 05:47 PM)
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auweia
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#11522059 - 11/24/09 07:22 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said: They look like friscosas to me. Grass will cause the stems to elongate.
I'll check it out under the scope anyway though.
Yeah, I know. I've seen elongated friscosas in regular chips too, but the caps seemed a little thinner than most friscosas
this is the one from 2002 in GGP
 Stamets almost published this in his book. still have the email. This ones is from today

the old 2002 photo is from my old 3mp sony and I'm starting to notice it still takes better photos than my new panasonic 8mp camera...does it look that way?. I still have the old sony too, but it's heavy
anyway, 2002 was the first time I noticed this new 'friscosa'...this was before most people knew about it, and before this Shroomery. Up until 2002, it was all regular cyans for many years, at least for me

you can see even here there's an odd cup shape, slightly more elongated than most short, squat friscosa you see today
ah yes, 2002 was a good year...those were the days

this is from today, a wavy friscosa
Edited by auweia (11/24/09 07:26 PM)
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: cyanophilus]
#11522319 - 11/24/09 08:04 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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What are the first two, cyanophilus?
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: World Spirit]
#11522363 - 11/24/09 08:12 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Leccinum manzanitae, and Chroogomphus vinicolor.
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: cyanophilus]
#11522805 - 11/24/09 09:10 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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rock on bro. i'm glad to see they came back up.
that's an insane amount of bluing btw.
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: canid]
#11522854 - 11/24/09 09:17 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I know, like a neon sign. they taste amazing, I got some dried with your name on it.
I found one today that had a cap that was AT LEAST 12 inches across.
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: cyanophilus]
#11523550 - 11/24/09 11:06 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
cyanophilus said: I know, like a neon sign. they taste amazing, I got some dried with your name on it.
I found one today that had a cap that was AT LEAST 12 inches across.
You need to post a picture of that!
Biggest Ive had were 4.5 - 5 inches.
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: OverdoseLiving]
#11523791 - 11/25/09 12:04 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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you know were discussing Leccinum, right? ill take a pic of it next time im there, as it was too large to fit in my backpack.
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: cyanophilus]
#11526240 - 11/25/09 12:09 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hidden under some bushes in the backstreets of Santa Cruz

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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: cyanophilus]
#11526517 - 11/25/09 01:01 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gleaned some friscosas last night! They are beautiful mushrooms!
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: Auggie]
#11527674 - 11/25/09 04:15 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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also found a leccinum manzintae that was at least a foot accross the cap. No bugs, perfect specemin found last week. Post pics later...
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: burtonRebel]
#11528701 - 11/25/09 06:54 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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happy Thanksgiving
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auweia
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11529023 - 11/25/09 08:12 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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also, for Nightflyer over in Europe with our San Francisco strains. I forgot about this one from last year
not saying your cyans and friscosas will merge, it depends on how different they are...What's been going on in the San Francisco Bay Area for more than ten years, for multiple generations, is both these related species have literally been fucking with each other. Some don't like each other, but some do. ....and for those that do, it gets to the point where you can look at it and say, 'that's p cyanescens', but it sort of looks like they can't decide whether to become wavy or not

in situations like this, you can't exactly go by the book anymore..Standardized macro definitions no longer work, and most important, when it becomes this close together
microscopic definitions are impossible to seperate
most people here where it started around San Francisco are unaware of how close friscosa and p cyanscens are, despite being obviously different on the macroscopic level
you're only going to see this in a relatively small percentage of them....most friscosas and cyans are still separated, but many more are still closely associated by proximity, I.E, they literally revolve around each other within a few feet in various patches..that's what I call the 'sattelite' function...and I see that ALL THE TIME here around San Francisco
nobody, to this day, really knows, or has explained, why 'friscosas' appeared like they did 10 or so years ago
it's not a bad thing, it's just slighty weird
they're all still the same potency or better, but in some cases, they've lost their classic textbook definition shape
Edited by auweia (11/25/09 08:54 PM)
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: auweia]
#11529064 - 11/25/09 08:20 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Can you post some more pics of that collection
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Re: Official Fall 2009 Winter 2010 San Francisco, Bay Area Thread. Post your finds here! [Re: World Spirit]
#11529251 - 11/25/09 08:58 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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World Spirit said: Can you post some more pics of that collection
not exactly...but I can post....er....sometimes....some examples of why this whole 'friscosa and p cyan' thing is a load of crap....not wait...not quite right
how these two mushrooms sub species completely drove the experts into a frustrated dinner, one day
faked even the top scientists out...ahahaha
Edited by auweia (11/25/09 09:03 PM)
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