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december333111 said:
what? where can u get OTC opiates?!
anyway,
PLEASE stop mixing drugs with psychedelics. i think the only things one should ever mix with psychedelics are psychedelics and cannabis. when you're in such a highly suggestible state, and you take an addictive drug like opiates, you'll be creating an addict. meta-programming. alcohol is an ego-intoxicant, isn't that counter to the purpose of entheogens? pharmaceutical drugs are the worst, most dangerous on earth. and there doesn't seem to be any research on possible drug interactions with psychedelics because they're illegal.
if you're having anxiety and panic attacks maybe you do too many drugs? that's why i get them. but i use psychedelics to make me not want other drugs, or to break addictions
and i think that any darkness or negativity that comes up while tripping is for a reason... it's part of you that you have to face and overcome, don't just medicate your fears.

Love and Light
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LOL i love people like this who most likely do not speak from experience.When I say I have bad anxiety I do not mean I have 10 million thoughts running threw my head about how I am going to die or never come down,when I say anxiety attacks I am talking about when the muscles in my body become so tense it it uncomfortable,there is nothing I can "tell myself,or any problems to face and fix stop a PHYSICAL problem.
I have used psychedelics to help me become a better person and to also kick a cigarette habit and it also has helped me tame another addiction I have.So in order for me to be able to heal myself with psychedelics if I have to take .5 mg of xanax 5hr be for the trip I will.

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I have tried everything my best rout it to take xanax a few days be for the trip and for some reason that helps.And trust me it is not restlessness,it causes an anxious tension I can feel every muscle in my body tense up it sucks,but not bad enough to make me want to stop,I will find ways to fix this problem
And I do not take enough to effect the spiritual effect at all.
Its kind of funny my wife hates to trip because she feels the same way but last weekend I talked her into tripping with me.After about 2 hours things got to much for her and she could not relax,so I gave her a xanax to kill the trip.Guess what it did not kill the trip it allowed her to relax to the point to were she was tripping harder than be for and was loving it because she could relax.It almost seemed like the xanax helped her hallucinated more.Be for she took the xanax she just sat there quiet.After taking it she was cuting up,talking about all the colors and loving it

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Sometimes it can, but other times it doesn't work. On medium to high doses, you're too dissociated to appreciate music: it sound distant, sometimes downright annoying or unpleasant.

In fact, once, listening to music actually CAUSED some uncomfortable sensations for me, it can induce some kind of sensory overload.

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Well, the Grateful Dead's "Anthem to the Sun" completely saved me from a trip on 1200 mics of acid  300mg of mescaline.  The scariest experience of my life became the best experience of my life.

Personally, before that, I usually listened to stuff like Infected Mushroom while I tripped.  That, however, would have been a sensory overload on a dose like that.  The Grateful Dead have a way of taking you out of that bad place.

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december333111 said:
what? where can u get OTC opiates?!
anyway,
PLEASE stop mixing drugs with psychedelics. i think the only things one should ever mix with psychedelics are psychedelics and cannabis. when you're in such a highly suggestible state, and you take an addictive drug like opiates, you'll be creating an addict. meta-programming. alcohol is an ego-intoxicant, isn't that counter to the purpose of entheogens? pharmaceutical drugs are the worst, most dangerous on earth. and there doesn't seem to be any research on possible drug interactions with psychedelics because they're illegal.
if you're having anxiety and panic attacks maybe you do too many drugs? that's why i get them. but i use psychedelics to make me not want other drugs, or to break addictions
and i think that any darkness or negativity that comes up while tripping is for a reason... it's part of you that you have to face and overcome, don't just medicate your fears.

Love and Light
.evolve.

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LOL i love people like this who most likely do not speak from experience.When I say I have bad anxiety I do not mean I have 10 million thoughts running threw my head about how I am going to die or never come down,when I say anxiety attacks I am talking about when the muscles in my body become so tense it it uncomfortable,there is nothing I can "tell myself,or any problems to face and fix stop a PHYSICAL problem.
I have used psychedelics to help me become a better person and to also kick a cigarette habit and it also has helped me tame another addiction I have.So in order for me to be able to heal myself with psychedelics if I have to take .5 mg of xanax 5hr be for the trip I will.

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i have much experience. the physical problems are your body's reaction to emotional or mental stress. i've had many experiences where my muscles tense and my body writhes with uncomfortably, but i deal with it. there always comes a point where i overcome it, and that's what liberates me. psychedelics have gotten me off meth and coke, and i'm happy that they've helped your addictions, too, but you still have to take xanax, which is an addictive drug.

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LOL please show me where I said I always have to "take xanax".It happens to me on occasions.
Since you have such a problem with addictive drugs I hope you do not smoke cigs or drink anything that contains caffeine seeing how they are also addictive drugs

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LifeLike said:
i would really try weed first. i am usually anxious as hell on the come up of all my trips. taking just a couple of tokes puts me in a relaxed mood and eases me into the experience. and if anything it will make the better part of the trip more intense, not dull it.

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LOL man that's what I first tried a while back,LOL but I found out that while tripping it makes it worse!That really sucks because I know that when sober if I smoke some bud it will relax me but now I know that if I smoke while I am anxious(while tripping)it will make it worse

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I used to listen to Tool back in my angsty years... that was a long time ago... Nothing will ever beat the Grateful Dead.  At least not for me.

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Researchers know that problems with brain chemistry can contribute to the development of anxiety disorders. Certain neurotransmitters (chemical messengers) in the brain involved in anxiety include serotonin, norepinephrine, and gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA). Researchers have also shown that changes in activity in certain areas of the brain are involved in anxiety. Many anxiety disorders run in families and likely have a genetic cause.
This statement leads me to belive(and oveously some medical doctors)That anxiety and panic attacks ate "not" always caused by an individuals emotional state of mind.

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