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 wre
 
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 New drug 'Z' has police worried
#11494821 - 11/20/09 05:20 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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A new drug circulating in Nelson called Z, which is leading to some users suffering "acute psychotic experiences", is worrying police and drug support services.
Alcohol and Other Drug Services regional manager Eileen Varley said she had heard of people using Z for the past three to six months.
The drug, which came in a capsule, was a hallucinogen and could make users paranoid, she said.
Ms Varley said it wasn't being sold at outlets that sold "legal highs" or legal party pills in Nelson. She thought it could be coming to Nelson from Christchurch.
"We don't know enough about it, just the fact there's a lot of talk about, which makes us think there is something in it, obviously that people are getting a buzz about it."
Staff at the service were concerned about the drug, as people did not know much about it and the only information they had was from users, she said.
She could not say how many Z users the service had seen. It had been approached by police for help in dealing with the drug, she said.
Nelson's needle exchange (Niche) manager Stephen Farquhar said he didn't know what was in Z, but had heard reports, including that it contained caffeine or a substance called trifluoromethylphenylpiperazine or TFFMP, which was a banned substance like the party pill drug BZP.
He said he had been made aware "of more than one person, on more than one occasion", becoming unwell after taking the drug.
"It appears to be making people more prone to acute episodes of psychotic behaviour."
By that, he meant they became violent and irrational and saw and heard things that did not exist.
Mr Farquhar did not know how much it cost to buy Z.
A place for exchanging needles, Niche aims to reduce the harm associated with drugs.
Once support workers knew what was in Z, they would know what kind of advice they could give people about it, Mr Farquhar said.
He was unsure whether the drug was also being used in other parts of the country, and planned to ask about it at a national board meeting this week.
Senior Sergeant Wayne McCoy of the Nelson CIB said police had not yet been able to identify what sort of substance Z was.
Mr McCoy said he had heard of users becoming paranoid, and of cases where users contacted the police because they believed there were intruders in their home.
He said cannabis was still the most prevalent drug in the Nelson region.
Nelson party pill manufacturer Dale Johnsen said he had not heard of Z.
Mr Johnsen said he thought the party pill scene in Nelson had died back since BZP was banned in April last year.
He was still making, selling and distributing pills but mostly to overseas markets. "It's a bit gloomy."
New Zealand Drug Foundation executive director Ross Bell said he had not heard of Z, and speculated that it could be a local slang name for a drug such as ecstasy or a prescription medicine such as ritalin that had made its way on to the black market.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3052590/New-drug-Z-has-police-worried
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Re: New drug 'Z' has police worried [Re: wre]
#11494985 - 11/20/09 05:44 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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What the ffuck?
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Re: New drug 'Z' has police worried [Re: wre]
#11494996 - 11/20/09 05:46 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Legalize the real drugs with fairly established saftey and this wouldn't be a problem.
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Re: New drug 'Z' has police worried [Re: Germican]
#11495222 - 11/20/09 06:20 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Germican said:
Legalize the real drugs with fairly established saftey and this wouldn't be a problem.
could that be any more vague?
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Re: New drug 'Z' has police worried [Re: Germican]
#11495235 - 11/20/09 06:22 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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What, they can't send it to a lab and have a GC/MS done on it to figure out what it is?
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Germican
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Re: New drug 'Z' has police worried [Re: Mattplusness]
#11495245 - 11/20/09 06:24 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mattplusness said:
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Germican said:
Legalize the real drugs with fairly established saftey and this wouldn't be a problem.
could that be any more vague?
Legalize drugs because.
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Re: New drug 'Z' has police worried [Re: Germican]
#11495293 - 11/20/09 06:32 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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"to Nelson from Christchurch."
lol
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Re: New drug 'Z' has police worried [Re: Shroom lover]
#11495343 - 11/20/09 06:42 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why this new Z sounds even worse than LMNOP...
I'll have to get Barney and Big Bird right on this...
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Re: New drug 'Z' has police worried [Re: Germican]
#11495365 - 11/20/09 06:47 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Germican said:
Legalize the real drugs with fairly established saftey and this wouldn't be a problem.
And by 'real drugs' you mean which ones exactly? How can a drug be fake? 
Even if some 'soft drugs' were in fact legalized, I doubt it would stop people from looking for new ways to get high. It will never stop, Fucktards unrealistic cops should realise that.
Edited by DrugsRGood (11/20/09 07:52 PM)
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Re: New drug 'Z' has police worried [Re: Germican]
#11495685 - 11/20/09 07:41 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Germican said:
Quote:
Mattplusness said:
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Germican said:
Legalize the real drugs with fairly established saftey and this wouldn't be a problem.
could that be any more vague?
Legalize drugs because.
LOL.
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Re: New drug 'Z' has police worried [Re: DrugsRGood]
#11495687 - 11/20/09 07:41 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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lol...i bought some ZZtop last time i was in Christchurch. Still got some actually
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Re: New drug 'Z' has police worried [Re: Dango_Bill]
#11495785 - 11/20/09 08:00 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Dango_Bill said:
What, they can't send it to a lab and have a GC/MS done on it to figure out what it is?
not exactly
it would need to be an assay in the lab database
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Re: New drug 'Z' has police worried [Re: piracetam]
#11495931 - 11/20/09 08:36 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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So does anyone have any idea what this mysterious "Z" is?
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Re: New drug 'Z' has police worried [Re: dispizeme]
#11496031 - 11/20/09 09:10 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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this is the most worthless article lol. Z??? what the bro is z??
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Re: New drug 'Z' has police worried [Re: Germican]
#11496200 - 11/20/09 09:53 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Germican said:
Legalize the real drugs with fairly established saftey and this wouldn't be a problem.
Nobody can see Germ's point huh? well Im with you man. Most all of these party pills are just some amateur chemists attempt at creating a drug compound that is somewhat like the effects of the classic psychadelics, In this case, I suppose 'Z' is supposed to be somewhat like 'X'.
Legalize LSD, MDMA, THC, ETC, so that one may obtain science and nature's most delightful ethneogens in their purest form. Do this and shut down those manufacturers out in the Christchurches of the world. Do this and minimize the potentially dangerous exploration of drug compounds that don't have decades of documented use behind them.
Now I know a lot of you RC heads out there may disagree with me. But any of you who have had true experiences with Lucy, Molly, or even Mescalito, must agree that they are the best science and nature has to offer. Guys like Hoffman and Shulgin had years of chemical research before they made their contributions in psychoactive drugs. And MDMA was first patented by pharm company Merck as a diet drug.
I see your point Germican.
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Re: New drug 'Z' has police worried [Re: Vullgar]
#11496277 - 11/20/09 10:12 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Vullgar said:
Why this new Z sounds even worse than LMNOP...
I'll have to get Barney and Big Bird right on this...
Today's Shroomery brought to you by the letter Z! lol.
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Re: New drug 'Z' has police worried [Re: wre]
#11496862 - 11/21/09 01:08 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Dango_Bill said:
What, they can't send it to a lab and have a GC/MS done on it to figure out what it is?
lol...
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wre said:
Nelson's needle exchange (Niche) manager Stephen Farquhar said he didn't know what was in Z, but had heard reports, including that it contained caffeine or a substance called trifluoromethylphenylpiperazine or TFFMP, which was a banned substance like the party pill drug BZP.
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The drug, which came in a capsule, was a hallucinogen and could make users paranoid, she said.
 it sounds deadly. 
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Re: New drug 'Z' has police worried [Re: Germican]
#11497254 - 11/21/09 04:45 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Germican said:
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Mattplusness said:
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Germican said:
Legalize the real drugs with fairly established saftey and this wouldn't be a problem.
could that be any more vague?
Legalize drugs because.
I feel ya' man. People wouldn't be taking these things if they could find real MDMA, LSD, and other safe but classic psychs. I don't know how nobody else got your point, but I did. I would never buy a legal pill called "Z" with god knows what in it unless, I couldn't get anything good, as in Molly, Lucy, Ethyl, Deems, and Mesc. Hopefully that day will never come, but if/when it does I'll be ready to try anything that comes my way. And that's how people get hurt. 
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Re: New drug 'Z' has police worried [Re: hooksbooks]
#11497268 - 11/21/09 04:50 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
hooksbooks said:
Quote:
Germican said:
Legalize the real drugs with fairly established saftey and this wouldn't be a problem.
Nobody can see Germ's point huh? well Im with you man. Most all of these party pills are just some amateur chemists attempt at creating a drug compound that is somewhat like the effects of the classic psychadelics, In this case, I suppose 'Z' is supposed to be somewhat like 'X'.
Legalize LSD, MDMA, THC, ETC, so that one may obtain science and nature's most delightful ethneogens in their purest form. Do this and shut down those manufacturers out in the Christchurches of the world. Do this and minimize the potentially dangerous exploration of drug compounds that don't have decades of documented use behind them.
Now I know a lot of you RC heads out there may disagree with me. But any of you who have had true experiences with Lucy, Molly, or even Mescalito, must agree that they are the best science and nature has to offer. Guys like Hoffman and Shulgin had years of chemical research before they made their contributions in psychoactive drugs. And MDMA was first patented by pharm company Merck as a diet drug.
I see your point Germican.
Didn't see you up their, good points. Though I would like to say a couple research chems have knocked my socks off and stolen pieces of my heart, substances like 2c-e and 4-AcO-DMT are some of my favorites now. These substances seem just as safe as substances like 4-HO-DMT and other safe psychs. IDK just throwing that out their.
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