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 Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax
#11492905 - 11/20/09 12:41 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Definitive proof that leading global warming scientists have been conspiring for years to fake data, publish false papers by conspiring to get them past peer review censors, hide actual data, etc.
Link
Link
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I know what you're thinking, fake right?
Link
What say you?
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: The Ecstatic]
#11492936 - 11/20/09 12:45 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've known global warming was fake since the beginning. It's all a plot to let the government charge extra taxes on carbon emissions, I knew it was bullshit since i found out that earth wasn't the only planet that was getting warmer and that in fact the sun was actually getting hotter. Most of the people who believe in global warming dont even know what the fuck it means.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: The Ecstatic]
#11492939 - 11/20/09 12:45 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol pwned.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: The Ecstatic]
#11492945 - 11/20/09 12:46 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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tl;dr
sum it up in 7 words or less plz.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
#11492956 - 11/20/09 12:47 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its going to be funny to watch Gore, MSNBC, and the rest of the Superfriends try to weasel their way out of this.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Tedwilto]
#11492959 - 11/20/09 12:48 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Tedwilto said:
tl;dr
sum it up in 7 words or less plz.
no stop being a lazy prick
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: rakipo]
#11492960 - 11/20/09 12:48 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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no u.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Tedwilto]
#11492962 - 11/20/09 12:49 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Tedwilto said:
tl;dr
sum it up in 7 words or less plz.
Dude hacked a Global Warming "research" place.
Proof that global warming is fake.
Conspiracy outed/solved.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: The Ecstatic]
#11493052 - 11/20/09 01:01 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Global warming is real, you're a heathen
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: visions]
#11493073 - 11/20/09 01:04 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Global warming is real, you're a heathen
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: The Ecstatic]
#11493113 - 11/20/09 01:08 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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LMAO @ everybody who bought into that global warming shit
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: rhyumavampire]
#11493122 - 11/20/09 01:09 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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LMAO @ anyone who believe global warming is a government conspiracy.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: King Koopa]
#11493135 - 11/20/09 01:12 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'M SUPER CE-RIAL
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: King Koopa]
#11493142 - 11/20/09 01:13 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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glad to see we're all laughing our collective asses off.
Edit: So as far as plausibility goes:
ManBearPig > Global Warming?
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: The Ecstatic]
#11493149 - 11/20/09 01:14 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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thus is life.
don't get too serious about your beliefs.
i am ce-rial
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: King Koopa]
#11493231 - 11/20/09 01:24 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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woah. i was reading those articles and my browser suddenly shut down.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: The Ecstatic]
#11493273 - 11/20/09 01:29 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hope you realize that your confirming link goes to a publication that has articles like: Vatican prepares for extraterrestrial disclosure and Video: Two MUFON reports detail low-flying orb over NYC in their technology section. (that UFO looks suspiciously like Mars filmed with a shaky hanheld camera, Mars is close to Earth and very visible right now. )
The truth is out there, but not in a tabloid run by UFO nuts.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Deltron3030]
#11493274 - 11/20/09 01:29 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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woah. i was reading those articles and my browser suddenly shut down.
....told you i was bein ce-rial............
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: koppie]
#11493287 - 11/20/09 01:31 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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King Koopa said:
LMAO @ anyone who believe global warming is a government conspiracy.
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koppie said:
I hope you realize that your confirming link goes to a publication that has articles like: Vatican prepares for extraterrestrial disclosure and Video: Two MUFON reports detail low-flying orb over NYC in their technology section.
The truth is out there, but not in a tabloid run by UFO nuts.
Then why is it also breaking news on legitimate news sites as well?
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: rhyumavampire]
#11493313 - 11/20/09 01:34 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Link please?
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Salomon]
#11493314 - 11/20/09 01:34 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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 I put global warming denies in the same boat as those who deny the Holocaust . BTW none of those links are credible and until a major and RESPECTED scientific magazine says other wise I'm gonna go with what every respectable intelligent sciencest .
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: koppie]
#11493338 - 11/20/09 01:36 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Link please?
www.google.com
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: King Koopa]
#11493339 - 11/20/09 01:36 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
King Koopa said:
LMAO @ anyone who believe global warming is a government conspiracy.
no one claimed it was a government conspiracy, it's yet another fraud by
members of the scientific community for financial gain, they managed to
dupe some politicians, some even got in on the act and make millions
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: trekie]
#11493362 - 11/20/09 01:39 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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trekie said:
I put global warming denies in the same boat as those who deny the Holocaust
Really? How are those even remotely similar? There's a lot more proof of the Holocaust than there is of global warming.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: rhyumavampire]
#11493365 - 11/20/09 01:39 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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koppie said:
Link please?
www.google.com
Weaksauce. You make the claims, you provide the links. By the way, do you believe the HIV AIDS connection or is that also a ploy by Big Pharma to sell medicine to the Africans?
Edited by koppie (11/20/09 01:43 PM)
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: trekie]
#11493379 - 11/20/09 01:41 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I put global warming denies in the same boat as those who deny the Holocaust .
HUH???
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: koppie]
#11493384 - 11/20/09 01:42 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not much more. I'm sorry but every other place in the world besides America believes in global warming. I read a good amount of scientific magazines. The fact is here in the USA there is an anti global warming campaign here in the USA. Why because its bad for business . just follow the money....
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11493392 - 11/20/09 01:43 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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King Koopa said:
LMAO @ anyone who believe global warming is a government conspiracy.
no one claimed it was a government conspiracy, it's yet another fraud by
members of the scientific community for financial gain, they managed to
dupe some politicians, some even got in on the act and make millions
mega pwnd.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: koppie]
#11493396 - 11/20/09 01:43 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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koppie said:
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koppie said:
Link please?
www.google.com
Weaksauce. You make the claims, you provide the links.
Kind sir, I would if I cared whether or not anyone believes me. 
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
#11493415 - 11/20/09 01:45 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok so the science community might make millions on global warming. Thats just a drop in the bucket to what big business will lose. Seriously follow the money to these anti global warming propaganda and you will find dow chemicals GE and all the big players just waiting to fuck us over again and again
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: The Ecstatic]
#11493549 - 11/20/09 02:01 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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 you people disappoint me. please continue to squabble over irrelevant debates about the nature of global warming when what we really need are pragmatic solutions to cope with the consequences of a continually changing climate (FACT). and while we're at it, we could really use some ideas about ending this crippling dependency on fossil fuel based energy. these things are real, regardless of how you want to explain it, and they are happening independent of whatever political ideology you affiliate yourself with. i see no evidence of widespread scientific fraud or any reason to doubt the conclusions of most solid peer-reviewed research. we've gained too much knowledge good information to throw out everything because of a few whacko's with an agenda.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: trekie]
#11493566 - 11/20/09 02:05 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok so the science community might make millions on global warming
al gore is not representative of the scientific community. researchers don't get rich.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: King Koopa]
#11493601 - 11/20/09 02:09 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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King Koopa said:
LMAO @ anyone who believe global warming is a government conspiracy.
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Quote:
Bender B Rodriguez said:
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King Koopa said:
LMAO @ anyone who doesn't read before they reply.
fixed.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
#11493644 - 11/20/09 02:16 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bender B Rodriguez said:
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King Koopa said:
LMAO @ anyone who doesn't read before they reply.
fixed.
LMAO...by itself.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: rhyumavampire]
#11493691 - 11/20/09 02:23 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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It was good to see you again yesterday - if briefly. One particular thing you said - and we agreed - was about the IPCC reports and the broader climate negotiations were working to the globalisation agenda driven by organisations like the WTO. So my first question is do you have anything written or published, or know of anything particularly on this subject, which talks about this in more detail?
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1648-Global-Warming-SCAM-HackLeak-FLASH.html
So...There it talks about a globalisation agenda driven by organisations like the WTO...
That's not conspiracy?
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Conspiracy - a secret agreement between two or more people to perform an unlawful act
Secret, two or more people, unlawful act.
Sure, climate change is real. But entirely man-catalysed global warming is not.
There are too many factors. Sure, it is obvious that burning coal puts things into the air that wouldn't otherwise be there. Burning oil, as well. But our impact, RELATIVELY is small. We DO have an impact, but it's not major, nor anything to cause concern.
But, you should be concerned anyway, as to the state of things. They're not going our way, overall, as a species.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Industrial_Society_and_Its_Future
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: rhyumavampire]
#11493715 - 11/20/09 02:27 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8370282.stm
same thing on BBC which by my count isnt a conspiracy site.
take it as you will.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Hendostan]
#11493767 - 11/20/09 02:34 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hendostan said:
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Ok so the science community might make millions on global warming
al gore is not representative of the scientific community. researchers don't get rich.
I know my girlfriend is a researcher she makes around 45k a year. It was response to a different poster who said how much the scientific community was making. Research may cost millions but for many of the companies to go "green" would cost them billions that was the point I was trying to make.
Also how much info are you going to trust that comes from hackers. Who are they employed by? what agenda do they have? As said on all the news site "Because of the volume of this information we cannot currently confirm that all of this material is genuine." Its rather easy to fake an email.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: trekie]
#11493777 - 11/20/09 02:36 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its rather easy to fake an email.
No! That cant be! Say its not so!
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: trekie]
#11493781 - 11/20/09 02:36 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd say that the hacker's agenda is more 'pure' than the government/policymakers/etc...
However, it is 'illegal,' yet it brings important information to 'light.'
The illumanatus should like that 
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Tedwilto]
#11493813 - 11/20/09 02:41 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tedwilto said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8370282.stm
same thing on BBC which by my count isnt a conspiracy site.
take it as you will.
funny how the BBC completely neglects to mention the whole point of hacking their shit.
Nothing to see here folks.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Tri High]
#11493815 - 11/20/09 02:41 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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The government has hackers to. In fact I would go as far to say that it is in the best interest of our government to make people believe global warming is a scam. That way they don't have to change a damn thing. You think this country corporate masters want to change??? Seriously just think about it.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: trekie]
#11493864 - 11/20/09 02:48 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Since it's a natural climate change, there's nothing we can do...
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: trekie]
#11493876 - 11/20/09 02:50 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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trekie said:
The government has hackers to. In fact I would go as far to say that it is in the best interest of our government to make people believe global warming is a scam. That way they don't have to change a damn thing. You think this country corporate masters want to change??? Seriously just think about it.
they are trying to push carbon taxes to regulate carbon.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Tedwilto]
#11493901 - 11/20/09 02:54 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Carbon tax is a joke just like derivatives . The carbon industry is set to make billions over then next decade. for forest that are already there. seams like bs to me 
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: trekie]
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Global warming is real. Nuff said, should be second nature by now, some babies are even born with that knowledge these days.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Lucidx]
#11494559 - 11/20/09 04:36 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Global warming is real. Nuff said
Everyone!!! Let it be known that GLOBAL WARMING IS REAL BECAUSE Lucidx SAYS IT IS! 
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: trekie]
#11494594 - 11/20/09 04:43 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Carbon tax is a joke just like derivatives . The carbon industry is set to make billions over then next decade. for forest that are already there. seams like bs to me
I'm not very educated on the subject, but I'm curious -
what about carbon taxing are you opposed to? If it simultaneously makes money and reduces greenhouse gases, I don't really see why you'd be against it.
I'm probably opening a can of hippy worms by asking this
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: trekie]
#11494686 - 11/20/09 04:57 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I put global warming denies in the same boat as those who deny the Holocaust . BTW none of those links are credible and until a major and RESPECTED scientific magazine says other wise I'm gonna go with what every respectable intelligent sciencest .
"Among the skeptics is Richard Lindzen, a professor of atmospheric sciences at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.(doesn't get more respectable than that lol)
"We've suddenly taken to reading tea leaves," he said. "When we saw cooling from 1940 to 1970, we were proclaiming global cooling. Since then, there's been a few tenths of global warming, so we're proclaiming global warming."
He believes the current warming trend is the result of natural variability, where a planet goes through phases of warming and cooling and the human contribution to it is minimal.
"The Earth is always getting colder and warmer," he said. "It's always changing. In fact, this is true of any fluid-covered planet."
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/07/11/globalwarming.overview/index.html
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: AmericanPsycho]
#11494771 - 11/20/09 05:12 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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No one stepped up to the question about carbon taxing yet??
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: lukeboots]
#11494869 - 11/20/09 05:27 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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carbon taxing would limit and tax the amount of carbon companies can put out, thereby raising prices on anything or any sector of industry that puts out carbon. you could also argue that because of these taxes, many industries that are now situated in the US would move overseas to escape these taxes.
i'm not that knowledgable about to what degree human technology has an impact on global warming; but it's indisputable that carbon emissions destroy the ozone layer, pollute the air, and the water. if you want examples look at china, and los angles. breathing smog is bad mmmk?
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#11494959 - 11/20/09 05:40 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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the price of how we use fossil fuels is far greater than any price increase in goods could ever be, IMO. and if an american company won't change its ways for progress - something that is inevitable as far as using fossil fuels goes - then i'd rather see the money go overseas than stay here, screwing us all.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: lukeboots]
#11495063 - 11/20/09 05:56 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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personally, i think progressing in technology is a far greater incentive for changing the status quo than by taxing carbon. any tax that is levied on these industries is just gonna be laid on the consumer; how's that for trickle-down economics.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
#11498544 - 11/21/09 11:32 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Carbon taxes will tax domestically, whereas raising money to pay off national debt would be raised by taxing people trying to import into our country, or by selling things from our country.
Like: You're producing goods, but in doing so you're emitting COx gases by purchasing electricity, which most often comes from burning carbon fuels, such as petroleum or coal.
So you're paying for having used electricity to produce. Plus you pay for the electricity. Who does the money for this tax go to? The world? For having put COx into the planet's atmosphere?
Haha, we're funding the whole world governing machine by paying them for having produced/consumed.
But really, the money that is exchanged in our country, would be going to something. Some bureaucracy or something if we were taxed for carbons. But it would be going out of the hands of the people, out of the struggling companies, etc... and to something, apparently, hysterical.
These emails are purporting:
Whole world organisation
A decline in temperatures offshore, increase inland.
And conspiracy to defraud
That I have seen. So this may change the mind of Congress as to the cap and trade bill/act/whatever it is now.
That aside, if they money were to be coming into the hands of the citizens, we need to be producing something that the world wants on a large scale. Electronics (haha), steel, lead, vehicles, technology, pharmaceutical drugs, rope, food, etc...
But we're just taking so much of that junk into our country, that it's not hard to give back what we're doing.
As a country, if we want to raise money, we need to make stuff to sell to other countries, to decrease our debt.
Pay back the share of the American people somehow. And I don't see shit being done.
How about we become the trash man? Get the whole world to recycle, take in their plastics, vehicles, etc... And turn it back into raw materials to sell back to the world?
Plus technology/food...
That, my people, is the way.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Tri High]
#11498772 - 11/21/09 12:14 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yep this seems legit. A "hacker" who steals out of context e-mails from one research institute and posts them online "because this is to important to hide" must be DEFINITIVE proof that the entire idea of man influenced global warming doesn't exist.
It must be the sun getting hotter, I just heard Pat Robinson say that, so it must be true.
And after all it is so easy to start and complete a world conspiracy involving thousands of researchers and hundreds of institutions. And all for what? So the government can have a justification to tax pollution. Oh right the researchers and politicians are all making millions by doing . . . something. Except no one can show me the millions they have made, or who specifically has made the millions. But I heard it, so it must be true.
Seems to me it might have been more efficient for the thousands researchers to just get part time minimum wage jobs rather than going through the hassle of starting a world wide, science discrediting, scheme to recreate the plot from James Bond's Goldfinger (that is if you replace gold with carbon credits).
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Yeah, it's a conspiracy that began over 100 years ago with Svante Arrhenius (never heard of the prominent physical chemist & Nobel Prize recipient in chemistry, whose wrote the first scientific paper on the subject, making the connection between the IR & the GH effect, in 1986? That's okay, 99% of conspiracy theorists on the subject haven't either)... I think the guy was a Freemason or something, or maybe a Bolshevik.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: AmericanPsycho]
#11498804 - 11/21/09 12:22 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I put global warming denies in the same boat as those who deny the Holocaust . BTW none of those links are credible and until a major and RESPECTED scientific magazine says other wise I'm gonna go with what every respectable intelligent sciencest .
"Among the skeptics is Richard Lindzen, a professor of atmospheric sciences at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.(doesn't get more respectable than that lol)
"We've suddenly taken to reading tea leaves," he said. "When we saw cooling from 1940 to 1970, we were proclaiming global cooling. Since then, there's been a few tenths of global warming, so we're proclaiming global warming."
He believes the current warming trend is the result of natural variability, where a planet goes through phases of warming and cooling and the human contribution to it is minimal.
"The Earth is always getting colder and warmer," he said. "It's always changing. In fact, this is true of any fluid-covered planet."
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/07/11/globalwarming.overview/index.html
i would believe him but what about china and india? those are some of the pollutinist motherfuckers on the planet.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Smackshadow]
#11498817 - 11/21/09 12:25 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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It was good to see you again yesterday - if briefly. One particular thing you said - and we agreed - was about the IPCC reports and the broader climate negotiations were working to the globalisation agenda driven by organisations like the WTO. So my first question is do you have anything written or published, or know of anything particularly on this subject, which talks about this in more detail?
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1648-Global-Warming-SCAM-HackLeak-FLASH.html
So...There it talks about a globalisation agenda driven by organisations like the WTO...
That's not conspiracy?
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Conspiracy - a secret agreement between two or more people to perform an unlawful act
Secret, two or more people, unlawful act.
Sure, climate change is real. But entirely man-catalysed global warming is not.
There are too many factors. Sure, it is obvious that burning coal puts things into the air that wouldn't otherwise be there. Burning oil, as well. But our impact, RELATIVELY is small. We DO have an impact, but it's not major, nor anything to cause concern.
But, you should be concerned anyway, as to the state of things. They're not going our way, overall, as a species.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Industrial_Society_and_Its_Future
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Tri High]
#11498916 - 11/21/09 12:50 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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BREAKING NEWS:
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: King Koopa]
#11498925 - 11/21/09 12:52 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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LMAO @ anyone who believe global warming is a government conspiracy.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: wowitch17]
#11498934 - 11/21/09 12:54 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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there's global warming happening on mars too. still think carbon emissions is what's causing it?
Scientists are telling us Mars is experiencing its own planetary warming. NASA says the Martian South Pole's ice cap has been shrinking for three summers in a row. Maybe Mars got its fever from earth. If so, I guess Jupiter's caught the same cold, because it's warming up too, like Pluto. I wonder what all those planets, dwarf planets and moons in our SOLAR system have in common. Hmmmm. Solar?
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Envix]
#11498944 - 11/21/09 12:56 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Envix]
#11498967 - 11/21/09 01:00 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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there's global warming happening on mars too. still think carbon emissions is what's causing it?
great point
unfortunately your post makes it clear that you dont understand what global warming even really means.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: wowitch17]
#11499030 - 11/21/09 01:07 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh I've got a pretty good idea.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: b0red5tiff]
#11499047 - 11/21/09 01:09 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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King Koopa said:
LMAO @ anyone who believe global warming is a government conspiracy.
its all part of the rise of the nwo. seriously.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Envix]
#11499065 - 11/21/09 01:13 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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there's global warming happening on mars too. still think carbon emissions is what's causing it?
Scientists are telling us Mars is experiencing its own planetary warming. NASA says the Martian South Pole's ice cap has been shrinking for three summers in a row. Maybe Mars got its fever from earth. If so, I guess Jupiter's caught the same cold, because it's warming up too, like Pluto. I wonder what all those planets, dwarf planets and moons in our SOLAR system have in common. Hmmmm. Solar?
I heard about this too, do you have some sources because there's some serious pwnage about to be done.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Envix]
#11499075 - 11/21/09 01:15 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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there's global warming happening on mars too. still think carbon emissions is what's causing it?
who gives a fuck? there's not billions of people competing for less productive croplands on mars
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
#11499078 - 11/21/09 01:15 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I heard about this too, do you have some sources because there's some serious pwnage about to be done.
I'm too lazy and hungry and distracted by american television at the moment. feel free to use  at your leisure.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Envix]
#11499166 - 11/21/09 01:33 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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My answer remains the same, because Correlation still does not equal Causation.
Here is an analogy:
The earth is round, and mars, and Jupiter, and Pluto are round. What do they all have in common? Could it be revolving around a Sun that is round?
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Smackshadow]
#11499236 - 11/21/09 01:45 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh and even if you would show that the Sun is getting hotter, you would still have to link that the the entire increase in the earths temperature to make a valid point. It is still possible for there to be two concurrent but independent causes for earth's warming.
That was poorly worded, here is it revised.
Oh and even if you were to show that the Sun is getting hotter, for your point to be valid, you have to link ALL of the earth's increase in temperature to the sun's increase in temperature. It is possible for there to be two concurrent but independent causes for earth's warming.
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Edited by Smackshadow (11/21/09 04:12 PM)
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Smackshadow]
#11499317 - 11/21/09 02:01 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh and even if you would show that the Sun is getting hotter, you would still have to link that the the entire increase in the earths temperature to make a valid point. It is still possible for there to be two concurrent but independent causes for earth's warming.
finally. someone who's making some sense.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Envix]
#11499860 - 11/21/09 03:38 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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do you guys seriously know nothing about global warming?
the whole premise is that carbon emissions are increasing the natural cycle of warming that the earth goes through at a unprecedented rate(by looking at geological records we can see this) that will undoubtedly lead to huge ecological changes.
maybe you should have an general understanding of the topic before trying to come up with counter arguments that actually agree with the premise of global warming.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: wowitch17]
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the only one who is arguing is you, wowitch 17.
everyone else is stating opinion or using sarcasms.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: Envix]
#11499897 - 11/21/09 03:45 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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"wind waker" was a cool game which was only second to "okami".
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: wowitch17]
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wowitch17 said:
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there's global warming happening on mars too. still think carbon emissions is what's causing it?
great point
unfortunately your post makes it clear that you dont understand what global warming even really means.
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Re: Definitive Proof of Global Warming Hoax [Re: AmericanPsycho]
#11500010 - 11/21/09 04:06 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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In fairness sarcasm can be a form of argument, albeit not an overly persuasive one. I found it to be the best in cases like this though, because it is foolish to think you can reason someone out of something they didn't reason themselves into.
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