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#11484730 - 11/19/09 09:55 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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My last 5 hits acid trips have been partly ruined by a rush of anxiety when I hit the peak (2 hours in). I wouldn't call it a bad trip, it wasn't a full-blown panic attack, but it was enough to ruin the most intense and interesting part of the trip. I can't enjoy music, movies or anything, I just curl into a fetal position and wait for the storm to pass (usually it takes 1h).
So I thought I could take codeine (available over-the-counter where I live) to help me chill out and "ease" into the trip. But I'm worried an opiate could dull the effect of the LSD, weaken the visuals...
Does anyone have experience mixing acid with opiate and how it affects the trip?
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: Hashshashin]
#11484736 - 11/19/09 09:55 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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it will do both, numb the trip and lower the body load
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: Hashshashin]
#11484746 - 11/19/09 09:57 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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It would probably dull your mind causing the LSD to lose some of its spiritual aspect. I don't think it would be too effective in reducing anxiety either. Well, unless you take a large dose, in which case you'll probably waste the spiritual aspect of your trip all together. Try half a Valium maybe? More effective at reducing anxiety with less of a dulling effect on your mind.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: BothHands]
#11484780 - 11/19/09 10:04 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Valium would absolutely dull a trip, more than codeine too. That's what valium does best.. it dulls your anxiety; your thoughts. Taking .5mg kpin was enough to dull my 7 gram trip. I had great visuals but very little thought. In fact, i've taken valium to slow down a bad trip I was having.
A few beers can help a LOT with body load, and it won't dull your trip.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: dwtk]
#11484827 - 11/19/09 10:12 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, Valium would dull your trip, but not as much as codeine.. Codeine isn't an anti anxiety medication. You'll need a larger dose of codeine to get the same anti anxiety effect. The larger dose of codeine will cause more of a dulling effect on the mind.
At least in my experience. And it makes sense imo.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: BothHands]
#11484865 - 11/19/09 10:19 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm assuming you have to stay OTC. Well in your country Codeine is going to come in a mixture of some kind of NSAID. If you want to have any kind of opiate actual experience (respiratory, CNS depression and euphoria) you are going to want to cold water extract out the codeine.
I have had morphine sulfate 60mg during an LSD experience. It kind of numbs your body and that electric gnarly enegy from LSD. It did create a more blissful experience tho. That feeling of everything is going to be alright, everything is just perfect.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#11484869 - 11/19/09 10:22 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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One time I took a few hofmanns and there came a point where the physical rush was uncomfortable for the setting I was in. I drank a few beers and felt fucking awesome - the feeling went away and I didn't feel the slightest bit numbed.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: dwtk]
#11484938 - 11/19/09 10:35 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alcohol is kind of fun with LSD, the alcohol adds a "lets have fun" vibe to the "i love everything" of acid and its 
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#11484977 - 11/19/09 10:43 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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For me, alcohol makes the melting visual more melty. I like it, but I prefer to take my acid by itself. I'll drink or smoke weed on the comedown, but I like my mind to be as cloud free as possible on the peak.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: BothHands]
#11487792 - 11/19/09 05:33 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have this problem ALL THE TIME!It has became so bad I am thinking that I am going to have to hang it up.I use to never get anxious while tripping but now I do.I have also had full blown panic attacks while tripping(felt like I was having a heart attack,tiggling arm and all)it really sucks.S
So what I do now is I take .5mg of zanax in the morning then like 5-6 hours later take .5mg more and wait 5 hrs and dose.This seems to help a bit with the un comfertable tention.I also have taken .5mg while tripping and yeas it helps kill the anxiety but it also dules the trip.
I feel your pain man,as
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: DNBplus]
#11490739 - 11/20/09 01:43 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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what? where can u get OTC opiates?!
anyway,
PLEASE stop mixing drugs with psychedelics. i think the only things one should ever mix with psychedelics are psychedelics and cannabis. when you're in such a highly suggestible state, and you take an addictive drug like opiates, you'll be creating an addict. meta-programming. alcohol is an ego-intoxicant, isn't that counter to the purpose of entheogens? pharmaceutical drugs are the worst, most dangerous on earth. and there doesn't seem to be any research on possible drug interactions with psychedelics because they're illegal.
if you're having anxiety and panic attacks maybe you do too many drugs? that's why i get them. but i use psychedelics to make me not want other drugs, or to break addictions
and i think that any darkness or negativity that comes up while tripping is for a reason... it's part of you that you have to face and overcome, don't just medicate your fears.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: december333111]
#11491767 - 11/20/09 08:44 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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what? where can u get OTC opiates?!
anyway,
PLEASE stop mixing drugs with psychedelics. i think the only things one should ever mix with psychedelics are psychedelics and cannabis. when you're in such a highly suggestible state, and you take an addictive drug like opiates, you'll be creating an addict. meta-programming. alcohol is an ego-intoxicant, isn't that counter to the purpose of entheogens? pharmaceutical drugs are the worst, most dangerous on earth. and there doesn't seem to be any research on possible drug interactions with psychedelics because they're illegal.
if you're having anxiety and panic attacks maybe you do too many drugs? that's why i get them. but i use psychedelics to make me not want other drugs, or to break addictions
and i think that any darkness or negativity that comes up while tripping is for a reason... it's part of you that you have to face and overcome, don't just medicate your fears.
Love and Light
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I live in France. Here, codeine is available OTC.
Of course, I'd rather take weed than opiates if I could, but currently my dealer is unavailable, so I won't be able to get my hands on weed or for that matter acid, shrooms for a certain amount of time.
Anyway, as suggested above, I'll try some beer, see if it helps relieve the anxiety (which comes primarily from the body load and slight dissociation, not from "dark thoughts", terrifying visuals or anything of the sort, which is why I think the solution is gonna be "chemical")
Thanks everyone.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: Hashshashin]
#11492342 - 11/20/09 11:06 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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what about xanax? ive heard of some friends using that stuff for cid and shrooms to take the edge off.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: Joeisthevolcano]
#11492383 - 11/20/09 11:13 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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codeine --> constricts pupils and limits perception
LSD --> dilates pupils and increases perception
these drugs are at war with one another. don't combine them. Maybe like 60-100 mgs of codeine max could work for the come up without messing with the trip too much. My two cents.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: ShroomyTunes]
#11493134 - 11/20/09 01:12 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I personally wouldn't suggest it. I was on 2 hits last night and decided to take a percocet at hour 8 and it actually just made me feel my body more, and kinda gave me a headache.
Whenever I get a weird body load while tripping, I just close my eyes and tell myself to calm down, and try to lose the feeling of my body. You're feeling those feelings for a reason. Just let them pass.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: rustyeffect]
#11493430 - 11/20/09 01:48 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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il do oxy like a couple hours before i trip just because i like the high. it usually wears off slowly and i can feel it for the majority of the trip. its also good to do during the comedown. makes for a comfortable sleep which can be hard to come by. this one time tripping i was just peeking and had to drive 50 miles on the interstate. i did a line of oxy like usual for the ride back and my vision kept crossing. i was too fucked up to tell how much i did so i think it might have been a lot. anyway, you're vision will blur and the visuals you would recieve will blur as well making the trip not seem as intense.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: Hashshashin]
#11494122 - 11/20/09 03:27 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Seriously, guys, this is the most pussy ass idea ever.
Deal with your acid trip or don't take acid, you wuss.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
#11494278 - 11/20/09 03:52 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I took a bunch of codeine and in large amounts it makes you feel like you want to die.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: elliott5400]
#11500249 - 11/21/09 04:44 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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take a nice dose of zanax during the day to lower you anxiety level and hours later take your dose.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: december333111]
#11500321 - 11/21/09 04:55 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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december333111 said:
what? where can u get OTC opiates?!
anyway,
PLEASE stop mixing drugs with psychedelics. i think the only things one should ever mix with psychedelics are psychedelics and cannabis. when you're in such a highly suggestible state, and you take an addictive drug like opiates, you'll be creating an addict. meta-programming. alcohol is an ego-intoxicant, isn't that counter to the purpose of entheogens? pharmaceutical drugs are the worst, most dangerous on earth. and there doesn't seem to be any research on possible drug interactions with psychedelics because they're illegal.
if you're having anxiety and panic attacks maybe you do too many drugs? that's why i get them. but i use psychedelics to make me not want other drugs, or to break addictions
and i think that any darkness or negativity that comes up while tripping is for a reason... it's part of you that you have to face and overcome, don't just medicate your fears.
Love and Light
.evolve.
LOL i love people like this who most likely do not speak from experience.When I say I have bad anxiety I do not mean I have 10 million thoughts running threw my head about how I am going to die or never come down,when I say anxiety attacks I am talking about when the muscles in my body become so tense it it uncomfortable,there is nothing I can "tell myself,or any problems to face and fix stop a PHYSICAL problem.
I have used psychedelics to help me become a better person and to also kick a cigarette habit and it also has helped me tame another addiction I have.So in order for me to be able to heal myself with psychedelics if I have to take .5 mg of xanax 5hr be for the trip I will.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: DNBplus]
#11500461 - 11/21/09 05:21 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I cannot explain it,some times when I trip I get this tension that make me want to stretch all my muscles in my body,and like I said its not like I am mentally wigging out its I just cant get comfortable.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: DNBplus]
#11501160 - 11/21/09 07:27 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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restlessness is different to anxiety. I find music can distract me from my restlessness. I suppose xanax could work too, but I'd try other methods first. Xanax could definitely harm the spiritual aspect of your trip, as it dulls your mind as well. But if you're still getting spiritual benefits, and it's the only thing that works, well, what else can you do?
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: BothHands]
#11502524 - 11/22/09 12:56 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have tried everything my best rout it to take xanax a few days be for the trip and for some reason that helps.And trust me it is not restlessness,it causes an anxious tension I can feel every muscle in my body tense up it sucks,but not bad enough to make me want to stop,I will find ways to fix this problem
And I do not take enough to effect the spiritual effect at all.
Its kind of funny my wife hates to trip because she feels the same way but last weekend I talked her into tripping with me.After about 2 hours things got to much for her and she could not relax,so I gave her a xanax to kill the trip.Guess what it did not kill the trip it allowed her to relax to the point to were she was tripping harder than be for and was loving it because she could relax.It almost seemed like the xanax helped her hallucinated more.Be for she took the xanax she just sat there quiet.After taking it she was cuting up,talking about all the colors and loving it 
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: DNBplus]
#11504563 - 11/22/09 01:00 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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what? where can u get OTC opiates?!
anyway,
PLEASE stop mixing drugs with psychedelics. i think the only things one should ever mix with psychedelics are psychedelics and cannabis. when you're in such a highly suggestible state, and you take an addictive drug like opiates, you'll be creating an addict. meta-programming. alcohol is an ego-intoxicant, isn't that counter to the purpose of entheogens? pharmaceutical drugs are the worst, most dangerous on earth. and there doesn't seem to be any research on possible drug interactions with psychedelics because they're illegal.
if you're having anxiety and panic attacks maybe you do too many drugs? that's why i get them. but i use psychedelics to make me not want other drugs, or to break addictions
and i think that any darkness or negativity that comes up while tripping is for a reason... it's part of you that you have to face and overcome, don't just medicate your fears.
Love and Light
.evolve.
LOL i love people like this who most likely do not speak from experience.When I say I have bad anxiety I do not mean I have 10 million thoughts running threw my head about how I am going to die or never come down,when I say anxiety attacks I am talking about when the muscles in my body become so tense it it uncomfortable,there is nothing I can "tell myself,or any problems to face and fix stop a PHYSICAL problem.
I have used psychedelics to help me become a better person and to also kick a cigarette habit and it also has helped me tame another addiction I have.So in order for me to be able to heal myself with psychedelics if I have to take .5 mg of xanax 5hr be for the trip I will.
i have much experience. the physical problems are your body's reaction to emotional or mental stress. i've had many experiences where my muscles tense and my body writhes with uncomfortability, but i deal with it. there always comes a point where i overcome it, and that's what liberates me. psychedelics have gotten me off meth and coke, and i'm happy that they've helped your addictions, too, but you still have to take xanax, which is an addictive drug.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: december333111]
#11504619 - 11/22/09 01:07 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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i would really try weed first. i am usually anxious as hell on the come up of all my trips. taking just a couple of tokes puts me in a relaxed mood and eases me into the experience. and if anything it will make the better part of the trip more intense, not dull it.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: DNBplus]
#11504658 - 11/22/09 01:13 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have tried everything my best rout it to take xanax a few days be for the trip and for some reason that helps.And trust me it is not restlessness,it causes an anxious tension I can feel every muscle in my body tense up it sucks,but not bad enough to make me want to stop,I will find ways to fix this problem
And I do not take enough to effect the spiritual effect at all.
Its kind of funny my wife hates to trip because she feels the same way but last weekend I talked her into tripping with me.After about 2 hours things got to much for her and she could not relax,so I gave her a xanax to kill the trip.Guess what it did not kill the trip it allowed her to relax to the point to were she was tripping harder than be for and was loving it because she could relax.It almost seemed like the xanax helped her hallucinated more.Be for she took the xanax she just sat there quiet.After taking it she was cuting up,talking about all the colors and loving it
I agree. A trip slightly dulled by the taking of benzo or opiate is always better than a trip RUINED by a painful bodyload where all you do is lie on your couch praying for the trip to end.
What's most annoying is that you wasted of 5 hits of acid in the process, something that is not exactly as readily available as cigarettes...
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Sometimes it can, but other times it doesn't work. On medium to high doses, you're too dissociated to appreciate music: it sound distant, sometimes downright annoying or unpleasant.
In fact, once, listening to music actually CAUSED some uncomfortable sensations for me, it can induce some kind of sensory overload.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: Hashshashin]
#11505179 - 11/22/09 02:57 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sometimes it can, but other times it doesn't work. On medium to high doses, you're too dissociated to appreciate music: it sound distant, sometimes downright annoying or unpleasant.
In fact, once, listening to music actually CAUSED some uncomfortable sensations for me, it can induce some kind of sensory overload.
Well, the Grateful Dead's "Anthem to the Sun" completely saved me from a trip on 1200 mics of acid + 300mg of mescaline. The scariest experience of my life became the best experience of my life.
Personally, before that, I usually listened to stuff like Infected Mushroom while I tripped. That, however, would have been a sensory overload on a dose like that. The Grateful Dead have a way of taking you out of that bad place.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: Hashshashin]
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i can't and don't trip without xanax. It just makes everything smoother and better. I take small dose though- .25 to .5mg only. Just enough to slightly calm you down and ease you into hyper space. Helps to fall asleep afterwords aswell. Never mixed opiates and shrooms, I imagine it would feel pretty blissful. Wish I could get codeine over the counter.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: BothHands]
#11505443 - 11/22/09 03:45 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, the Grateful Dead's "Anthem to the Sun" completely saved me from a trip on 1200 mics of acid 300mg of mescaline. The scariest experience of my life became the best experience of my life.
Personally, before that, I usually listened to stuff like Infected Mushroom while I tripped. That, however, would have been a sensory overload on a dose like that. The Grateful Dead have a way of taking you out of that bad place.
Wow 1200 mics are you sure? On that dose I would be too fucked up to even recognize music. I personally can't mesure my doses in mics. My dealer assures me he sells 200 mcg hits, but I believe he's lying/don't know what he's talking about.
What I can tell you is, on 5 hits (without tolerance) music was just too overwhelming. I tried everything: psychedelic rock, classic rock, bubblegum pop crap, classical... couldn't take it. I listened to "Baby Love" by the Supremes, and somehow it scared the shit out of me!
What's weird is, at first everything sounded beautiful. Even listening Britney Spears would've felt heavenly. I thinks that's what really creeped me out: you feel so great, you find so much beauty in everything that it actually terrifies you.
I'm talking about peak effect of course. After like 1 hour 1/2 it got better, and turned into one of the most pleasant trips ever...
I think that when people say they "overcome" anxiety/bad trip, what really happens is that they waited long enough for the effect to diminish slightly.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: december333111]
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december333111 said:
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what? where can u get OTC opiates?!
anyway,
PLEASE stop mixing drugs with psychedelics. i think the only things one should ever mix with psychedelics are psychedelics and cannabis. when you're in such a highly suggestible state, and you take an addictive drug like opiates, you'll be creating an addict. meta-programming. alcohol is an ego-intoxicant, isn't that counter to the purpose of entheogens? pharmaceutical drugs are the worst, most dangerous on earth. and there doesn't seem to be any research on possible drug interactions with psychedelics because they're illegal.
if you're having anxiety and panic attacks maybe you do too many drugs? that's why i get them. but i use psychedelics to make me not want other drugs, or to break addictions
and i think that any darkness or negativity that comes up while tripping is for a reason... it's part of you that you have to face and overcome, don't just medicate your fears.
Love and Light
.evolve.
LOL i love people like this who most likely do not speak from experience.When I say I have bad anxiety I do not mean I have 10 million thoughts running threw my head about how I am going to die or never come down,when I say anxiety attacks I am talking about when the muscles in my body become so tense it it uncomfortable,there is nothing I can "tell myself,or any problems to face and fix stop a PHYSICAL problem.
I have used psychedelics to help me become a better person and to also kick a cigarette habit and it also has helped me tame another addiction I have.So in order for me to be able to heal myself with psychedelics if I have to take .5 mg of xanax 5hr be for the trip I will.
i have much experience. the physical problems are your body's reaction to emotional or mental stress. i've had many experiences where my muscles tense and my body writhes with uncomfortably, but i deal with it. there always comes a point where i overcome it, and that's what liberates me. psychedelics have gotten me off meth and coke, and i'm happy that they've helped your addictions, too, but you still have to take xanax, which is an addictive drug.
LOL please show me where I said I always have to "take xanax".It happens to me on occasions.
Since you have such a problem with addictive drugs I hope you do not smoke cigs or drink anything that contains caffeine seeing how they are also addictive drugs
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: DNBplus]
#11505514 - 11/22/09 03:55 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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if I had it my way I would never take any pharmaceutical pills.But I had rather take a xanax every once in a while instead of calling it quites.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: Hashshashin]
#11505520 - 11/22/09 03:56 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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My hits definitely aren't 200 mics. They're probably 80-150. I just estimated an even 100. 2 of those same tabs got me pretty fucked up though, so they definitely aren't under 80. I took 12 (I had to, as I bought them in 4th period ((when I was still in high school)) and got called down to the office). Turns out they only wanted me to come down to talk about the schedule change I had requested, haha. Luckily I didn't start peaking until I was already on the bus home.
Otherwise, I would only have taken 4-6 of them. Or perhaps 1-2 + the mescaline.
I did try Infected Mushroom when I first got home, and it was far to overwhelming for me, but there's something about the Grateful Dead.
The lyrics too..
"All you need.... All you need... Allll you need.... All you neeeeeeeeed; all you gotta haaaaaave..."
Just the way he says it, and the way he chose his words so carefully. It's like, you don't need much. You barely need anything. Without need there is ultimate comfort.
Another thing he says:
"You know he had to die."
I know it sounds morbid at first. But the way he says it is so comforting. It makes you feel that death has to happen. And it's ok that "he" died. Makes you feel, while you're tripping, that this trip isn't bad, and even if it kills you, it's ok.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: LifeLike]
#11505532 - 11/22/09 03:58 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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i would really try weed first. i am usually anxious as hell on the come up of all my trips. taking just a couple of tokes puts me in a relaxed mood and eases me into the experience. and if anything it will make the better part of the trip more intense, not dull it.
LOL man that's what I first tried a while back,LOL but I found out that while tripping it makes it worse!That really sucks because I know that when sober if I smoke some bud it will relax me but now I know that if I smoke while I am anxious(while tripping)it will make it worse 
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: BothHands]
#11505811 - 11/22/09 04:38 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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TOOL. listen to TOOL. it's made for this. i won't even try to explain, u just have to try it
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: december333111]
#11505821 - 11/22/09 04:39 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I used to listen to Tool back in my angsty years... that was a long time ago... Nothing will ever beat the Grateful Dead. At least not for me.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: BothHands]
#11505845 - 11/22/09 04:42 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I used to listen to Tool back in my angsty years... that was a long time ago... Nothing will ever beat the Grateful Dead. At least not for me.
Oh how I agree with that!!...when I'm tripping they sound like the best band that's ever been..timeless. Are they the best? I think so.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: BothHands]
#11505846 - 11/22/09 04:42 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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i have much experience. the physical problems are your body's reaction to emotional or mental stress. quote]
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Researchers know that problems with brain chemistry can contribute to the development of anxiety disorders. Certain neurotransmitters (chemical messengers) in the brain involved in anxiety include serotonin, norepinephrine, and gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA). Researchers have also shown that changes in activity in certain areas of the brain are involved in anxiety. Many anxiety disorders run in families and likely have a genetic cause.
This statement leads me to belive(and oveously some medical doctors)That anxiety and panic attacks ate "not" always caused by an individuals emotional state of mind.Quote:
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: december333111]
#11505855 - 11/22/09 04:43 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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LOL yes TOOL is nice to listen to when tripping balls
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: DNBplus]
#11505889 - 11/22/09 04:48 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Acid took me out of that angsty rut.. Definitely wouldn't listen to anything dark like Tool on acid. That would be counteracive imo..
Listen to what you like though.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: captcheeze1]
#11505927 - 11/22/09 04:54 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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When I was going to see the Grateful dead I always had this sort of humbling feeling when Jerry would be up there singing and playing...like a grandfather figure telling you how it is from his living room couch...being lit up and being there was a powerful thing...The best show on Earth
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: captcheeze1]
#11505966 - 11/22/09 05:01 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I know exactly what you're talking about! He sounds like an old wise man telling me everything is going to be OK. Definitely eases bad trips. I won't trip without them.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: BothHands]
#11505995 - 11/22/09 05:04 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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How could you trip without a few good shows laying around!!! YES that's what it was like. When I was about to lose my connection to reality I would listen to the story he was telling...and then the band backing it all up.....Oh my Jerry is as good as codeine
Edited by captcheeze1 (11/22/09 05:07 PM)
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: captcheeze1]
#11506097 - 11/22/09 05:20 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jerry is definitely better than any type of opiate. On lower doses (ones where I can actually stand up to dance), the Grateful Dead can provide 10 minute full body orgasms over and over. There's nothing better.
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Re: Codeine to avoid bad trip/uncomfortable come-up? [Re: BothHands]
#11506113 - 11/22/09 05:23 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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agree....go cat go!!!
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