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 RationalEgo
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 Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11446217 - 11/13/09 04:24 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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That which you call your soul or spirit is your consciousness, and that which you call free will is your mind`s freedom to think or not, the only will you have, your only freedom, the choice that controls all the choices you make and determines your life and your character. --Ayn Rand
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Icelander
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11446229 - 11/13/09 04:32 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gotta love the Rand.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11452042 - 11/14/09 02:55 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Free will is real in the fact that we make our own decisions, but it is not real in the fact that our decisions are based on previous experiences. -- Garren Hahn
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"The world's a rollercoaster and I am not strapped in. Maybe I should hold with care but my arms are busy in the air saying I wish you were here."
If we didn't have pain, we wouldn't know pleasure.
It's not that I'm never wrong, it's just that I never open my mouth unless I'm right. 
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: ImaginingEmotions]
#11453528 - 11/14/09 11:24 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doesn't that just beg the age-old question (even though both ends cancel each other out):
Do we make our decisions? That is, who are the "we" that are making the decisions and what does this mean with modern science's and sociology's input?
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RationalEgo
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Lakefingers]
#11461087 - 11/15/09 03:03 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Loving of enemies is another dogma of feigned morality, and has beside no meaning....Those who preach the doctrine of loving their enemies are in general the greatest prosecutors, and they act consistently by so doing; for the doctrine is hypocritical, and it is natural that hypocrisy should act the reverse of what it preaches.--Thomas Paine
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11461674 - 11/15/09 04:05 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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"If we could read the secret history of our enemies, we should find in each man's life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility." ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
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RationalEgo
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Lion]
#11461752 - 11/15/09 04:13 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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The action required to sustain human life is primarily intellectual: everything man needs has to be discovered by his mind and produced by his effort.--Ayn Rand
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RationalEgo
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11465781 - 11/16/09 07:51 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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What is it to be spiritual? To recognize the finer harmonies of conduct -- to live to the ideal -- to separate the incidental, the evanescent, from the perpetual -- to be enchanted with the perfect melody of truth -- open to the influences of the artistic, the beautiful, the heroic.... There is nothing spiritual in the worship of the unknown and unknowable, in the self-denial of a slave at the command of a master whom he fears. Fastings, prayings, mutilations, kneelings, and mortification are either the result of, or result in, insanity. --Robert Green Ingersoll
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Icelander
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11465863 - 11/16/09 08:18 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Icelander]
#11472263 - 11/17/09 05:38 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's been attributed to Wittgenstein and others:
When philosophers meet they should greet each other by saying
T a k e y o u r t i m e.
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RationalEgo
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Lakefingers]
#11473023 - 11/17/09 09:46 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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A fact never went into partnership with a miracle. Truth scorns the assistance of wonders. A fact will fit every other fact in the universe, and that is how you can tell whether it is or is not a fact. A lie will not fit anything except another lie.--Robert Green Ingersoll
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11478872 - 11/18/09 01:17 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Christopher Marlow was poet more than a philosopher. Truth is however often more present in literature than in philosophy:
I count religion but a childish toy, and hold there is no sin but ignorance.
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Icelander
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Lakefingers]
#11481172 - 11/18/09 06:36 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am interested in anything about revolt, disorder, chaos-especially activity that seems to have no meaning. It seems to me to be the road toward freedom... Rather than starting inside, I start outside and reach the mental through the physical.
Jim Morrison
I believe in a long, prolonged, derangement of the senses in order to obtain the unknown.
Jim Morrison
I like any reaction I can get with my music. Just anything to get people to think. I mean if you can get a whole room full of drunk, stoned people to actually wake up and think, you're doing something.
Jim Morrison
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Icelander
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Icelander]
#11481493 - 11/18/09 07:17 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have found little that is "good" about human beings on the whole. In my experience most of them are trash, no matter whether they publicly subscribe to this or that ethical doctrine or to none at all. That is something that you cannot say aloud, or perhaps even think.
Sigmund Freud
Illusions commend themselves to us because they save us pain and allow us to enjoy pleasure instead. We must therefore accept it without complaint when they sometimes collide with a bit of reality against which they are dashed to pieces.
Sigmund Freud
Neurotics complain of their illness, but they make the most of it, and when it comes to talking it away from them they will defend it like a lioness her young.
Sigmund Freud
Yes, America is gigantic, but a gigantic mistake.
Sigmund Freud
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Icelander]
#11481994 - 11/18/09 08:17 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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“Suicide sometimes proceeds from cowardice, but not always; for cowardice sometimes prevents it; since as many live because they are afraid to die, as die because they are afraid to live”
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
Edited by Icelander (11/18/09 08:18 PM)
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Icelander]
#11482995 - 11/18/09 10:33 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Icelander said:
Yes, America is gigantic, but a gigantic mistake.
Sigmund Freud
I'd like to know where Freud said that 
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RationalEgo
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Lakefingers]
#11483597 - 11/19/09 02:20 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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An individual must be an individual. To desire for someone to be like you is to trivialize your own individuality and to deny them theirs. To desire to be like someone else is a mockery of the effort they put in to making themselves the way they are. Either way, we must all be individuals.--Matt Finnigan
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Icelander
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Lakefingers]
#11483929 - 11/19/09 06:20 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Lakefingers said:
Quote:
Icelander said:
Yes, America is gigantic, but a gigantic mistake.
Sigmund Freud
I'd like to know where Freud said that
He was sitting on the shitter at the time.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Lakefingers
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Icelander]
#11484391 - 11/19/09 08:52 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Worrying about his mother dying before he would.
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Icelander
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Lakefingers]
#11484568 - 11/19/09 09:28 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Momma's boy. If he was still alive we could go beat him up.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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