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Fair and balanced? More than anybody else.
    #11474781 - 11/17/09 02:55 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/14/fox-news-barack-obama-media-opinions-contributors-s-robert-lichter.html

A nice analysis of what anybody not an O-Bot knew for quite some time.

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Meanwhile, Fox's Special Report was dramatically tougher on Obama, with only 36% favorable vs. 64% unfavorable evaluations during the same time period. But McCain didn't fare much better, garnering only 40% favorable comments vs. 60% negative ones. So the broadcast networks gave good marks to one candidate and bad marks to another, while Fox was tough on both--and most balanced overall.




That is not a significant difference, especially considering Obama was the front runner for most of the campaign.  This is not a paean to Fox so much as an indictment of EVERY OTHER MEDIA OUTLET! 

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So how could Fox have both the most balanced and the most anti-Obama coverage? Simple. It's because the other networks were all so pro-Obama. CMPA analyzed every soundbite by reporters and nonpartisan sources (excluding representative of the political parties) that evaluated the candidates and their policies. On the three broadcast networks combined, evaluations of Obama were 68% positive and 32% negative, compared to the only 36% positive and 64% negative evaluations of his GOP opponent John McCain.




And yet we have a plethora of blathering bilgeheads whinging endlessly about the coming corporate takeover of America when the heinous McCain Feingold dies its long deserved death.  Funny they don't have anything to say when it is the liberal media providing hundreds of millions of free campaigning to liberal douches.  Did I say hundreds of millions?  I probably should have said billions.  Presidential campaigns aren't the only ones.  One could even argue that any dollar spent by the NY Times is a liberal campaign ad.


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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #11475034 - 11/17/09 03:41 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

i might agree that (however tragically) faux news might be closer to how a US median voter thinks than other media outlets ..but US median voters arent "fair and balanced" either.. and nor is faux if "fair and balanced" is supposed to mean factually correct...


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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: Annapurna1]
    #11475126 - 11/17/09 03:57 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Eh, they are as factually correct as any of them.  And the American voter is what the American voter is.  I have to suck up 3 1/2 more years of this Present and, hopefully only one more of San Fran Nan and Dingy Harry.  Just whose country do you think it is?


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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: Annapurna1]
    #11475322 - 11/17/09 04:25 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)



Okay, they might label a scandal-plagued (or electorally doomed, as we shall see) Republican as a Democrat once...



twice...



okay three is a little...



...four?!



oh for fuck's sake.



cute! Now, time for some fair 'n balanced headlines:









I could go on literally for hours. And that's before you even have to listen to any of these stupid hacks open their mouths!



'nuff said.

Oh and this might just be my favorite, not for bias but for sheer retardation:



















Fox News viewers might be getting a little confused here...

Seriously, EGYPT?! They claim to spend night and day praying for the troops and they don't even know where the fuck they are!


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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: jimbotron]
    #11475380 - 11/17/09 04:33 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Please.  Typos?  All I have to say about that is >>>>>>>>>>>> Dan Rather.

And that last screen shot?  On Death panels and rationing?  You might want to consider the latest from the government on mammograms.
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/17/feds-to-women-in-their-40s-skip-the-mammogram/

Stick to the point.


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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #11475442 - 11/17/09 04:41 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Typos? R is nowhere D on the keyboard, man. And you're also missing some context: some of those "typos" ran again, and again, and again, and again, with hours in between.

Give me a break. And I don't see how that is a death panel. And Fox News sponsored the Tea Parties for fuck's fake! Did MSNBC ever host and promote and appear at anti-Bush rallies? NO. Nor did ABC, CBS, Dan Rather, or CNN.

What is so hard to understand about this?


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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: jimbotron]
    #11475493 - 11/17/09 04:47 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Whatever are you talking about?  Sponsored the Teaparties?  I don't think so.  One thing they didn't do was describe the participants by a homosexual epithet.  If there are fewer mammograms at an early age more young women will die of breast cancer.  Death.  Panel.

Dan Rather ran a fake news story just before a tight election to discredit one candidate.  The NY Times ran a 2 page story about a fake McCain affair.

That article presented a dispassionate and non partisan analysis of news coverage throughout the media.  Fox was the least skewed.  Suck it.


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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: jimbotron]
    #11475534 - 11/17/09 04:55 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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Sponsored the Teaparties?  I don't think so.




I do.























And then, as if that's not enough horseshit to swallow, they had the sheer unmitigated gall to run this ad:



How? Because Fox was flogging it day in and day out for weeks!


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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #11476291 - 11/17/09 07:39 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

It will be interesting to see if those results are replicated by a truly non-partisan media watchdog group.


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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: jimbotron]
    #11476468 - 11/17/09 10:14 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

good job copying and pasting a bunch of typos, completely ignoring all of the OP's facts. Humans make mistakes, what a surprise. :shrug:


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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: jimbotron]
    #11476840 - 11/18/09 04:51 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I really like the last one.  It is an excellent question.  It was a grass roots movement.  How does one conclude that reporting on hundreds of thousands of people protesting government intrusion constitute sponsorship?

And what information does anyone have that indicates that the organization that did the study is partisan?  Other than that partisan hacks don't like the result?


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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #11477011 - 11/18/09 06:09 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

when you have hours of beck and hannity promoting it, not reporting on it; when you can organize it through fox websites, when it is corporate funded (astroturfing) through groups like freedomworks, which are also promoted on the fox propaganda channel. 
A new study by the Pew Research Study shows that viewers of the Daily Show and the Colbert Report have the highest knowledge of national and international affairs, while Fox News viewers rank nearly dead last:

Despite significant technology shifts, however, Pew found that “today’s citizens are about as able to name their leaders, and are about as aware of major news events, as was the public nearly 20 years ago.”

The results about Fox News echo findings of previous surveys. In 2003, University of Maryland researchers studied the public’s belief in three false claims — that Iraq possessed WMD, that Iraq was involved in 9/11, and that there was international support for the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

The researchers stated, “The extent of Americans’ misperceptions vary significantly depending on their source of news. Those who receive most of their news from Fox News are more likely than average to have misperceptions.” Fox News viewers were “three times more likely than the next nearest network to hold all three misperceptions.”


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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: novumorganum]
    #11477256 - 11/18/09 07:37 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

If it was "astroturf" as pelosi put it you would expect Fox News to be screaming

END THE "FEDERAL" RESERVE!


You don't see Fox News doing that.


Even a dead watch is right twice a day. Zap called it right when he said it was grass roots.




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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: Mr.Al]
    #11477302 - 11/18/09 07:47 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

"If it was "astroturf" as pelosi put it you would expect Fox News to be screaming

END THE "FEDERAL" RESERVE!


You don't see Fox News doing that."

Believe it or not, most people who watch Fox News aren't Randroids and couldn't even explain what the Fed is or does, and that's who they were catering to.

If it were grass roots it would have happened WITHOUT Fox News's over-the-top promotion, and you wouldn't have seen all the Glenn Beck signs.


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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: jimbotron]
    #11477327 - 11/18/09 07:54 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Who started the idea of the modern tea party?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/04/ron-paul-tea-party-tea-parties-income-tax.html


How many End the Fed signs did you see?

How many H.R.1207 signs?

Were you at one?


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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: Mr.Al]
    #11477617 - 11/18/09 09:18 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Are you going to hijack every thread with your L. Ron Paul nonsense? 

I seem to recall that this was started around the beginning of the year with an on air rant by one of the cable networks (not Fox) financial guys.  If L. Ron said anything about it in 2007 it sure didn't resonate with the people like this has, which just goes to show how much attention everybody not in the Paulintologist church pays attention to the irrelevant gadfly


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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #11477645 - 11/18/09 09:23 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

You saw a bunch of Campaign for Liberty signs right zap?

You were there too.  Right?!?


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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: Mr.Al]
    #11477664 - 11/18/09 09:26 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Never been to any of them.  I have no doubt that the Paulintologists were out in force.  You know who else was out in force?  The Larouchies.  Who is about equally as influential and listened to as L. Ron.


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    #11477680 - 11/18/09 09:28 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

It was Rick Santelli, CNBC.


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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #11477699 - 11/18/09 09:34 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I heard about teaparties from CFL.


You had said the teaparties were grassroots...



Campaign for Liberty is the grassroots organization that was setting up tea parties all over the country.


What I am trying to get across to you is that the neo-conservatives are really very different from the people who want to end the "federal" reserve...  Both sides were there, sure.

Interesting you didn't go.


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