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 Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else.  [Re: Mr.Al]
#11504571 - 11/22/09 01:01 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mr.Al said:
If republican slanted news media was shooting (for repubs) to win the 2012 presidential election they would not be chatting up Palin every day.
then why does every other news source cover palin every day as well
they really must want to get rid of Obama
http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/politics/government/sarah-palin-PEPLT0007504.topic
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/11/13/2126312.aspx
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34000354/ns/politics/
havent they learned yet that there really is no such thing as bad
publicity, they're just keeping her in the headlines, it's shameless
promotion and it'll make sure she's in the public eye for years to come
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 Mr.Al
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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#11510208 - 11/23/09 10:26 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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You aren't making sense dude.
Palin is not a viable presidential candidate.
Promoting Palin does the conservatives no good in 2012.
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zappaisgod
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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: Mr.Al]
#11513712 - 11/23/09 05:54 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Conservatives are not a viable party. Yet. The Republicans are not conservative. Yet.
I agree that Palin is not a viable candidate. Probably never will be. She speaks her mind.
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Mr.Al
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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: zappaisgod]
#11516454 - 11/24/09 01:30 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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It depends on what you define as conservative...
You claim to hold conservative views. I surmise this includes the view that a much smaller federal government would be beneficial to our economic well-being.
The problem you have is that you don't know how to arrive at small government.
True, republicans aren't exactly conservative in their views regarding the size and spending of government. The correct question to ask is why.
I don't hold any illusions regarding Palin. She is not a shady character like most politicians, but she does not have a game-plan to fix the mess we are facing. This includes a dollar crisis right around the corner.
Perhaps the simplest means of addressing these problems is to hold the federal government to the Constitution.
That is a big difference between you and I zap: I recognize that the federal government is not above the law. When examining the current state of our economy it is foolish to not consider the tremendous impact that an unconstitutional monetary policy has.
The economic problems that we have in this country are systemic in nature. The system itself is not sustainable. If this is not addressed quickly we will have a situation on our hands that will make the Great Depression look like a swell time.
Edited by Mr.Al (11/24/09 01:51 AM)
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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: Mr.Al]
#11517500 - 11/24/09 08:38 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mr.Al said:
It depends on what you define as conservative...
You claim to hold conservative views. I surmise this includes the view that a much smaller federal government would be beneficial to our economic well-being.
The problem you have is that you don't know how to arrive at small government.
Actually, I do.Quote:
True, republicans aren't exactly conservative in their views regarding the size and spending of government. The correct question to ask is why.
That is why I capitalized "conservative" in one sentence and not the other. In the first instance it was a proper noun and in the second I was using it as an adjective. Thank you for telling me what is correct. It was ever so helpful.Quote:
I don't hold any illusions regarding Palin. She is not a shady character like most politicians, but she does not have a game-plan to fix the mess we are facing. This includes a dollar crisis right around the corner.
Unlike L. Ron's game plan which is to put control of the currency more tightly in the hands of politicians than it is now. The dollar crisis stems from borrowing, whatever the rate. Stop borrowing, stop spending, stop wasting.Quote:
Perhaps the simplest means of addressing these problems is to hold the federal government to the Constitution.
In what way do you believe the Federal Government has deviated from the Constitution specifically? And what agency do you see forcing it to adhere to your interpretation of the Constitution and not, say, the Supreme Courts?Quote:
That is a big difference between you and I zap: I recognize that the federal government is not above the law. When examining the current state of our economy it is foolish to not consider the tremendous impact that an unconstitutional monetary policy has.
I recognize that you have no idea whatsoever about the law. I hate to break it to you but any analysis of law you have ever elucidated is based on the most jejune and sophomoric understanding of almost any regular poster here. There are centuries of Supreme Court decisions by actual judges trained in the law that say your ideas are nonsense. You don't even get heard anymore because the judges can only tolerate so much stand up comedy in a given session.Quote:
The economic problems that we have in this country are systemic in nature. The system itself is not sustainable. If this is not addressed quickly we will have a situation on our hands that will make the Great Depression look like a swell time.
The systemic problem is not what you think it is. The systemic problem is the problem of human nature. Any politician once in power desires to keep and wield to the greatest extent possible. This is why even reasonably conservative politicians once in office tend to morph into big government assholes in fairly short order. There is also a problem that bums vote for the promise of handouts. A particularly recent example is Landrieu. She sold a vote on health care for 300 million dollars worth of pork, which she will then tell her constituents was a victory for them.
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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: zappaisgod]
#11519052 - 11/24/09 12:58 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Politicians have been using the business cycle to their advantage in the short term. The housing bubble that started during the Clinton years is a good example of this.
You have demonstrated that you do not (much like the federal government) respect the highest law of the land, the Constitution.
It is precisely your ignorance of what Constitutional monetary policy is that prevents you from understanding how the government has grown to it's present size and amassed such large amounts of debt.
You mentioned "stop borrowing".... Sure we can not afford to be in debt to the tune of trillions to China. How can this be solved? We could get rid of legal tender laws and introduce monetary competition. You still can't give me a rational & moral argument for the continued existence of "the fed". You put together made up arguments that have nothing to do with reason.
You like to make fun of Congressman Paul. Palin doesn't appear to understand economics. She has been making an effort recently but that doesn't compare to Paul who has been fighting to end the "federal" reserve for decades.
We are heading straight towards a dollar crisis in America. You are an ostrich because YOU FAIL to admit that the unconstitutional "federal" reserve is to blame for it.
This dollar crisis will make the Great Depression look like a Sunday picnic.
When the shit hits the fan old man, just look in the mirror and remember it was ostriches like you that allowed for it to happen.
Dollar crisis ostrich, wax philosophical about the causes of it that do not involve the "federal" reserve.
You wear clown shoes BTW...
Edited by Mr.Al (11/24/09 12:59 PM)
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zappaisgod
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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: Mr.Al]
#11519558 - 11/24/09 02:01 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mr.Al said:
Politicians have been using the business cycle to their advantage in the short term. The housing bubble that started during the Clinton years is a good example of this.
You have demonstrated that you do not (much like the federal government) respect the highest law of the land, the Constitution.
You have demonstrated an ignorance of the law and a complete unwillingness to specify just what you find to be a violation of the Constitution. Hence you are a gadfly and a troll. You do not debate, you parrot, poorly and with zero depth.Quote:
It is precisely your ignorance of what Constitutional monetary policy is that prevents you from understanding how the government has grown to it's present size and amassed such large amounts of debt.
It is precisely your stunning narcissism that blinds you to the fact that you have zero idea of what you write about regarding any Constitutional issues. Quote:
You mentioned "stop borrowing".... Sure we can not afford to be in debt to the tune of trillions to China. How can this be solved? We could get rid of legal tender laws and introduce monetary competition. You still can't give me a rational & moral argument for the continued existence of "the fed". You put together made up arguments that have nothing to do with reason.
How would getting rid of legal tender laws stop borrowing by the Federal government? Answer, it won't. Thank you, now go home. The rest of your paragraph is nonsensical lies about what I have posted.Quote:
You like to make fun of Congressman Paul. Palin doesn't appear to understand economics. She has been making an effort recently but that doesn't compare to Paul who has been fighting to end the "federal" reserve for decades.
Although I find L. Ron Paul to be a fringe nutcase I find his acolytes disturbingly.............religious. It is them I mostly make fun of. Well, actually, YOU. So Paul's idea of fighting the Fed is to put it more tightly under Government control. Tell me again who the statist is?Quote:
We are heading straight towards a dollar crisis in America. You are an ostrich because YOU FAIL to admit that the unconstitutional "federal" reserve is to blame for it.
No, you are a fool because you think it is. Quote:
This dollar crisis will make the Great Depression look like a Sunday picnic.
Wanna bet?Quote:
When the shit hits the fan old man, just look in the mirror and remember it was ostriches like you that allowed for it to happen.
Me and 99% of the rest of the population, Chicken Little.Quote:
Dollar crisis ostrich, wax philosophical about the causes of it that do not involve the "federal" reserve.
You wear clown shoes BTW...
And mighty big shoes they are. One's you will never be able to fill. Say, do you know what shoe size correlates with?
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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: zappaisgod]
#11519585 - 11/24/09 02:05 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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how well you can walk on water?
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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: zappaisgod]
#11519609 - 11/24/09 02:08 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I hope everyone has by now figured out that corporate elite own most of the major media, and also fund/groom politicians and political campaigns.
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Edited by Shins (11/24/09 02:08 PM)
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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: Shins]
#11519655 - 11/24/09 02:15 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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are you serious?
so a fair and balanced media is impossible, no matter the outlet?
what are we ever to do with ourselves?
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Re: Fair and balanced? More than anybody else. [Re: zappaisgod]
#11522457 - 11/24/09 08:26 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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 This thread has been closed.
Reason:
As I told you guys earlier -
You guys have to stop turning every thread you enter into a pissing contest over Ron Paul and fiat currency. This thread is about the alleged balance/imbalance of TV news organizations, FOX News in particular.
Locked because of bullheadedness.
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